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VicXLakers
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| Kjj10697X wrote: | What's with all this talk about Kuz being a bench player? Unless there is someone on this team that will play better than Kuz at the 3 with LeBron James at the 4 or play better than Kuz at the 4 with Lebron at the 3, then he remains a starter.
No point discussing where Kuz would be ideal at on another team. This is all about the Lakers. On the Lakers team as of right now, he is the starter.
I understand that these posts are just opinions. Like Floyd says....opinions are like assh$l$s. Everyone has one. |
my opinion is that when we get that power forward we need Kuz will be the championship piece coming off the bench with his 20+ in 20+ minutes
We can win with Kuz...that chip is an extra stretch |
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UKUGA
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Joe Pesci
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Kuzma needs to be backing up an elite defensive role player. You have to play him with and behind a guy who plays the way yih want Kuzma to play.
Magic accurately criticized the previous regime for having too many of the same type of players (ie. Clarkson, Russell, and Lou Williams), but he's guilty as well with Kuzma and James.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:04 am Post subject: |
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| Joe Pesci wrote: | Kuzma needs to be backing up an elite defensive role player. You have to play him with and behind a guy who plays the way yih want Kuzma to play.
Magic accurately criticized the previous regime for having too many of the same type of players (ie. Clarkson, Russell, and Lou Williams), but he's guilty as well with Kuzma and James. |
he will be an interesting extension case. I think he will fall in the JC range, and not sure the team will be willing to keep him as a backup big at that price.
However, we have 2 more controlled years and he's great at that price given his likely role.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:18 am Post subject: |
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| 6th man role is ideal for him.. He cant defend, cant rebound, and when hes not hitting his shot hes useless out there. Perfect 6th man skill set imo |
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Dr. Laker
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| Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:23 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Joe Pesci wrote: | Kuzma needs to be backing up an elite defensive role player. You have to play him with and behind a guy who plays the way yih want Kuzma to play.
Magic accurately criticized the previous regime for having too many of the same type of players (ie. Clarkson, Russell, and Lou Williams), but he's guilty as well with Kuzma and James. |
he will be an interesting extension case. I think he will fall in the JC range, and not sure the team will be willing to keep him as a backup big at that price.
However, we have 2 more controlled years and he's great at that price given his likely role. |
Kuz will get big money.
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| Dr. Laker wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Joe Pesci wrote: | Kuzma needs to be backing up an elite defensive role player. You have to play him with and behind a guy who plays the way yih want Kuzma to play.
Magic accurately criticized the previous regime for having too many of the same type of players (ie. Clarkson, Russell, and Lou Williams), but he's guilty as well with Kuzma and James. |
he will be an interesting extension case. I think he will fall in the JC range, and not sure the team will be willing to keep him as a backup big at that price.
However, we have 2 more controlled years and he's great at that price given his likely role. |
Kuz will get big money. |
Eh. Define "big."
B/c 20m+? Doubt it. And if he did, I'm not sure we should match that.
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| PayasoLoco wrote: | | 6th man role is ideal for him.. He cant defend, cant rebound, and when hes not hitting his shot hes useless out there. Perfect 6th man skill set imo |
Right now Kuzma seems better suited to a Lou Williams type role. Instant offense off the bench. They don't offer much else besides scoring. Lou Williams is a better player though.
If you pay Kuzma much more than that, it would be a mistake but someone probably does. The idiot media pundits generally are all high on Kuzma.
If Kuzma developed into a complete player, then it would be a different story. |
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| PayasoLoco wrote: | | 6th man role is ideal for him.. He cant defend, cant rebound, and when hes not hitting his shot hes useless out there. Perfect 6th man skill set imo |
this |
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Kuzma or Ingram should lead the 2nd unit. They would still get like 28 minutes a night but we wouldn’t be as vulnerable at certain points in the game.
I’m not sure which though. You could argue that Ingram is a playmaker and would be better suited. Then again Kuzma struggles defensively and might be better off. I dunno.
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| Staccatos wrote: | | PayasoLoco wrote: | | 6th man role is ideal for him.. He cant defend, cant rebound, and when hes not hitting his shot hes useless out there. Perfect 6th man skill set imo |
Right now Kuzma seems better suited to a Lou Williams type role. Instant offense off the bench. They don't offer much else besides scoring. Lou Williams is a better player though.
If you pay Kuzma much more than that, it would be a mistake but someone probably does. The idiot media pundits generally are all high on Kuzma.
If Kuzma developed into a complete player, then it would be a different story. |
Our bench scoring was non-existent.
We could have used him there.
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| PayasoLoco wrote: | | 6th man role is ideal for him.. He cant defend, cant rebound, and when hes not hitting his shot hes useless out there. Perfect 6th man skill set imo |
I disagree. He needs others to set him up offensively so putting him with lesser players would likely hurt his production. I think he’s more of a typical 5th starter who plays less than a bench player or two he starts over. |
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My opinion of Kuzma has dropped over the past few months honestly. I don’t think he deserves to be mentioned in a group with Lonzo and BI in terms of being assets.
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| 7 points last night, 10 points on 5-13 fg tonight so far. Still can’t shoot 3s...at least he is not as useless as Josh Hart. He’s a 6th man at best, bench player on a contending team. |
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L.A.T.W
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| Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Yung Drip King wrote: | | 7 points last night, 10 points on 5-13 fg tonight so far. Still can’t shoot 3s...at least he is not as useless as Josh Hart. He’s a 6th man at best, bench player on a contending team. |
He has 9 assists and 6 rebounds too.All players have off nights even the all stars have bad stretches like Paul George recently. Players who average 19,6 & 3 by their 2nd year are rare especially as a 27th pick. |
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| L.A.T.W wrote: | | Players who average 19,6 & 3 by their 2nd year are rare especially as a 27th pick. |
Here on LG we tend to value players based on what they averaged for the last game. Check out this thread when hit had 30+ point games... |
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| Dr. Laker wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Joe Pesci wrote: | Kuzma needs to be backing up an elite defensive role player. You have to play him with and behind a guy who plays the way yih want Kuzma to play.
Magic accurately criticized the previous regime for having too many of the same type of players (ie. Clarkson, Russell, and Lou Williams), but he's guilty as well with Kuzma and James. |
he will be an interesting extension case. I think he will fall in the JC range, and not sure the team will be willing to keep him as a backup big at that price.
However, we have 2 more controlled years and he's great at that price given his likely role. |
Kuz will get big money. |
Naw son.
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| Our top 3 young guys have tanked their values pretty solid. |
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| l4kerz wrote: | | If Kuz doesn’t improve his defense, he’s going to turn into Melo without a post game. |
That’s disrespectful to Melo |
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He’s slumped a bit lately. It happens. We also sure weren’t talking about him like this when he was blowing up back in December/January either. Brandon was playing like crap for a while too. Probably shouldn’t draw huge assumptions from the best or the worst of his play.
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| PassTheBooze wrote: | | l4kerz wrote: | | If Kuz doesn’t improve his defense, he’s going to turn into Melo without a post game. |
That’s disrespectful to Melo |
How people forgot young Melo... Maybe old Melo tho. |
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| Not sure if i have seen many 30% 3pt shooter turning into 40% volume shooters in their career. |
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| RealSkipBayless wrote: | Kuzma or Ingram should lead the 2nd unit. They would still get like 28 minutes a night but we wouldn’t be as vulnerable at certain points in the game.
I’m not sure which though. You could argue that Ingram is a playmaker and would be better suited. Then again Kuzma struggles defensively and might be better off. I dunno. |
Earlier in the season I thought Ingram as sixth man. Now perhaps Kuzma. Agree totally with this. Team needs a defensive minded PF/C. Tyson Chandler in his prime would have been ideal. Team needs to stop trying to be GSW. Josh Hart is NOT a PF. LBJ/Kuz/Ingram are three tweeners. Should have kept Randle he was the polar opposite in being physical. I mean it was obvious to all of us apparently except Maginca. |
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| I don't see as much Lakers games as usual now that our season is over, are they asking him to focus more on his passing game ? 10 in the last game, 6 in the first half today ? Do you feel he' playing differently ? |
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o rebounds for a PF
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