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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:07 pm    Post subject:

Clarkson, nothing more, nothing less

Trade him now
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:07 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:19 pm    Post subject:

Jesusdelonla wrote:
Clarkson, nothing more, nothing less

Trade him now


No. Kuzma is better than Clarkson ever was for us. Can we stop the overreactions on our youngsters? Kuzma is a guy that needs a better coach to develop his deficiencies. I could only imagine how great Kuz would look under a coach like Doc or Atkinson
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:20 pm    Post subject:

trade the bums...gut the place
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:01 am    Post subject:

The Juggernaut wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
Clarkson, nothing more, nothing less

Trade him now


No. Kuzma is better than Clarkson ever was for us. Can we stop the overreactions on our youngsters? Kuzma is a guy that needs a better coach to develop his deficiencies. I could only imagine how great Kuz would look under a coach like Doc or Atkinson

How is kuz better than Clarkson? Both don’t play D, and are chuckers. At least Clarkson could create for himself and if he wanted for others
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:49 am    Post subject:

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Jesusdelonla wrote:
Clarkson, nothing more, nothing less

Trade him now


No. Kuzma is better than Clarkson ever was for us. Can we stop the overreactions on our youngsters? Kuzma is a guy that needs a better coach to develop his deficiencies. I could only imagine how great Kuz would look under a coach like Doc or Atkinson


Lol so the coach has to tell him to rebound and get more then couple RBS playing the PF spot?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:41 pm    Post subject:

We don’t have to trade him, unless it’s a no brainer deal. But he shouldn’t be a starter next to Lebron, last year when he was good, he was coming off the bench. He brings scoring and nothing else, perfect 6th man type player.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:59 pm    Post subject:

BigBoi wrote:
We don’t have to trade him, unless it’s a no brainer deal. But he shouldn’t be a starter next to Lebron, last year when he was good, he was coming off the bench. He brings scoring and nothing else, perfect 6th man type player.


I think he's much better with Lebron because he doesn't have to create himself.

all these comparison with Clarkson but Kuzma has no where near the handle and iso ability of Clarkson. Please don't confuse kuz with a 6th man type, those are guards that has handle and iso abilities.

he works the best with ball handling guards that can spot his cuts and spot ups
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:12 pm    Post subject:

maomao wrote:
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We don’t have to trade him, unless it’s a no brainer deal. But he shouldn’t be a starter next to Lebron, last year when he was good, he was coming off the bench. He brings scoring and nothing else, perfect 6th man type player.


I think he's much better with Lebron because he doesn't have to create himself.

all these comparison with Clarkson but Kuzma has no where near the handle and iso ability of Clarkson. Please don't confuse kuz with a 6th man type, those are guards that has handle and iso abilities.

he works the best with ball handling guards that can spot his cuts and spot ups


Well he can come off the bench and play next to Lebron. Last year he played well off the bench without having a ball handling guard next to him. He can’t be a starting 4 if he’s not a good catch and shoot player next to Lebron, poor rebounder, and a terrible defensive player. He can be a very good 6th man type player because that was what he was his rookie year and that’s what he’s played like this year in a starting role.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:13 pm    Post subject:

maomao wrote:
BigBoi wrote:
We don’t have to trade him, unless it’s a no brainer deal. But he shouldn’t be a starter next to Lebron, last year when he was good, he was coming off the bench. He brings scoring and nothing else, perfect 6th man type player.


I think he's much better with Lebron because he doesn't have to create himself.

all these comparison with Clarkson but Kuzma has no where near the handle and iso ability of Clarkson. Please don't confuse kuz with a 6th man type, those are guards that has handle and iso abilities.

he works the best with ball handling guards that can spot his cuts and spot ups

Perfect for when bron goes to bench and zo can find him.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:18 am    Post subject:

Kuz should be dropping 40pts a game in the next 5 games
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:21 am    Post subject:

If Kuzma saves himself from the trade block with this lackluster play and plays brilliantly next season... it will have been the best method acting performance since Robert De Niro in Raging Bull.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:39 am    Post subject:

PayasoLoco wrote:
maomao wrote:
BigBoi wrote:
We don’t have to trade him, unless it’s a no brainer deal. But he shouldn’t be a starter next to Lebron, last year when he was good, he was coming off the bench. He brings scoring and nothing else, perfect 6th man type player.


I think he's much better with Lebron because he doesn't have to create himself.

all these comparison with Clarkson but Kuzma has no where near the handle and iso ability of Clarkson. Please don't confuse kuz with a 6th man type, those are guards that has handle and iso abilities.

he works the best with ball handling guards that can spot his cuts and spot ups

Perfect for when bron goes to bench and zo can find him.

Perfect coming off the bench with Ball.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:25 am    Post subject:

He's better than Clarkson but theyre the similar caliber. No need to trade Kuzma cuz the rest of the league rates him right. Notice how his value in trades doesnt really amount to much? Yes, its cuz the rest of the league doesnt rate him as much as we do.
He's a 6th man realistically. Both Ingram and even ZO I think have more potential. Kuzma is instant offense off the bench.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:25 am    Post subject:

Joe Pesci wrote:
PayasoLoco wrote:
maomao wrote:
BigBoi wrote:
We don’t have to trade him, unless it’s a no brainer deal. But he shouldn’t be a starter next to Lebron, last year when he was good, he was coming off the bench. He brings scoring and nothing else, perfect 6th man type player.


I think he's much better with Lebron because he doesn't have to create himself.

all these comparison with Clarkson but Kuzma has no where near the handle and iso ability of Clarkson. Please don't confuse kuz with a 6th man type, those are guards that has handle and iso abilities.

he works the best with ball handling guards that can spot his cuts and spot ups

Perfect for when bron goes to bench and zo can find him.

Perfect coming off the bench with Ball.


Ball is not coming off the bench so crabbee can start
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:39 am    Post subject:

Crabbe is a template for a shooter who can and has shot over 40% from three. Crabbe's role can he filled by any capable player who can occupy that space on the roster.

When Ball learns to shoot at that clip, the starting job is his.

Simple-minded people with no knowledge of history don't understand that there are hall of famers who played behind lesser players -- from Ginobli to McHale.

Both tuose guys finished games though. That's all that matters.

Teaching you is becoming a chore, Jesus.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:27 am    Post subject:

Joe Pesci wrote:
Crabbe is a template for a shooter who can and has shot over 40% from three. Crabbe's role can he filled by any capable player who can occupy that space on the roster.

When Ball learns to shoot at that clip, the starting job is his.

Simple-minded people with no knowledge of history don't understand that there are hall of famers who played behind lesser players -- from Ginobli to McHale.

Both tuose guys finished games though. That's all that matters.

Teaching you is becoming a chore, Jesus.


Ball is not coming off the bench so we can start Crabee

You sharing your personal opinion that is highly debatable doesn’t mean you’re teaching anyone anything, Jesus.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:38 pm    Post subject:

1ngr4m wrote:
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Crabbe is a template for a shooter who can and has shot over 40% from three. Crabbe's role can he filled by any capable player who can occupy that space on the roster.

When Ball learns to shoot at that clip, the starting job is his.

Simple-minded people with no knowledge of history don't understand that there are hall of famers who played behind lesser players -- from Ginobli to McHale.

Both tuose guys finished games though. That's all that matters.

Teaching you is becoming a chore, Jesus.


Ball is not coming off the bench so we can start Crabee

You sharing your personal opinion that is highly debatable doesn’t mean you’re teaching anyone anything, Jesus.

Here you go ...

My comment was directed toward one individual person ... and here you come.

Jesus can speak for himself. I'm sure he doesn't need a defense attorney.

As for as my lineup, specifically me adding a shooter to the starting lineup and a versatile defender, they're merely filling a role.

I'm not benching Ball for a shooter, because I have him in my finishing five with that same shooter. If anything, Ball is replaced in the starting lineup by Clarke.

But all this is probably over your head because you're caught up in the jargon of starting. I could give a damn about how it looks to come off the bench. I know that by Ball coming off the bench, you get a tremendous change.of pace guard entering games, which is what you want in a bench player, while also giving him plenty of minutes and a spot etched out for him in the final minutes of a game.

Look past the term "starter" and the last name "Crabbe". They're just words. ""Starters" can play 15-20 minutes. How many G-League level guys played in front of Ginobli before they finally discovered Danny Green on the trash heap? Pop was called a genius for starting guys like Roger Mason, Gary Neal, and Keith Bogans over Ginobli.

I'm sure there were similar less visionary, simple-minded fans back then on Spurs message boards sayjng, "Manu Ginobli is not coming off the bench so we can start Gary Neal."

I don't really care if it's not likely to happen either. It should. There are pages and pages and pages of guys talking about getting Zion Williamson even though the chances of getting him are infinitesimal (and spare me the predictable, "There's a better chance of the Lakers getting Williamson than them starting Crabbe over Ball.")

You build teams with balance in mind. It's the reason Pop started Roger Mason in front of Ginobli and the reason guys like Ed Pinkney, Kevin Gamble, and Cedric Maxwell started in front of Kevin McHale.

Ball entering games late in the first quarter has a lot of benefits (ask me and I'll list them all). You are probably only considering how it looks. I'm considering what works best for the team and ALL the players on it.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 4:49 pm    Post subject:

Nets would give Crabbe for free.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:02 pm    Post subject:

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Nets would give Crabbe for free.

With a first round pick or two, I know. That's "the" plan.

Tradio Crabbe into space gives them enough room to sign Durant even with Russell's caphold.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:27 pm    Post subject:

Joe Pesci wrote:
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Nets would give Crabbe for free.

With a first round pick or two, I know. That's "the" plan.

Tradio Crabbe into space gives them enough room to sign Durant even with Russell's caphold.


They can sign Durant without it though. I think....
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:28 pm    Post subject:

Funny thing is how every n2 pick, we say the lakers could of drafted x player instead...

Kuzma is the same situation. Kuzma was a good value pick, but the net's Jared Allen might of been a better pick for us
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:34 pm    Post subject:

Kobesystem wrote:
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Nets would give Crabbe for free.

With a first round pick or two, I know. That's "the" plan.

Tradio Crabbe into space gives them enough room to sign Durant even with Russell's caphold.


They can sign Durant without it though. I think....

Nope. They have to move Crabbe. You might be able to siphon two firsts from them if they're seriously in the Durant sweepstakes.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:59 pm    Post subject:

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He's better than Clarkson but theyre the similar caliber. No need to trade Kuzma cuz the rest of the league rates him right. Notice how his value in trades doesnt really amount to much? Yes, its cuz the rest of the league doesnt rate him as much as we do.
He's a 6th man realistically. Both Ingram and even ZO I think have more potential. Kuzma is instant offense off the bench.

He’s never been on the trade block until this AD trade. So we can’t gauge how much the league values him. All that talking heads in the media sure do value him though. What can you say about that? Don’t make up stuff
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:43 pm    Post subject:

With the orlando magic making the playoffs, Kuzma might want to be a bit careful with his words next time.
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