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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:19 pm    Post subject:

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I think Kuzma bleached his brain cells along with his hair.


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Not joking here, but an actual concern. Flint water issue began in April of 2014 (they say), five months before he started college at Utah, but he may have actually have been exposed to some of that water from Apr-Aug 2014 and/or during trips home and Summer breaks if he did go home in those situations. Any lead exposure at all is no good. He would've been fortunate to completely escape exposure to it even if it had only begun in 4/2014. That some of their water was so discolored was a benefit, but I dunno if that cue started immediately after they switched their intake to the old pipes.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:24 pm    Post subject:

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I agree with JJ...

https://twitter.com/ESPNNBA/status/1217670755145732097


We need JJ Redick on this team.


We got some people here very sensitive about this topic. They believe it's absolutely stupid to connect hair style, fashion and social media with how hard a player works. Here is a NBA player talking about this. Maybe JJ Redick is stupid too and doesn't know what he's talking about? LOL!

I believe a player can be worried about fashion, and at the same time be the hardest worker too. But when the play is not up to par, it's simply a bad look.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:34 pm    Post subject:

Runway8 wrote:
Outspoken wrote:
lounger wrote:
I agree with JJ...

https://twitter.com/ESPNNBA/status/1217670755145732097


We need JJ Redick on this team.


We got some people here very sensitive about this topic. They believe it's absolutely stupid to connect hair style, fashion and social media with how hard a player works. Here is a NBA player talking about this. Maybe JJ Redick is stupid too and doesn't know what he's talking about? LOL!

I believe a player can be worried about fashion, and at the same time be the hardest worker too. But when the play is not up to par, it's simply a bad look.


Work ethic will withstand the test of time.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:47 pm    Post subject:

CRoost wrote:
Runway8 wrote:
Outspoken wrote:
lounger wrote:
I agree with JJ...

https://twitter.com/ESPNNBA/status/1217670755145732097


We need JJ Redick on this team.


We got some people here very sensitive about this topic. They believe it's absolutely stupid to connect hair style, fashion and social media with how hard a player works. Here is a NBA player talking about this. Maybe JJ Redick is stupid too and doesn't know what he's talking about? LOL!

I believe a player can be worried about fashion, and at the same time be the hardest worker too. But when the play is not up to par, it's simply a bad look.


Work ethic will withstand the test of time.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:40 pm    Post subject:

Runway8 wrote:
Outspoken wrote:
lounger wrote:
I agree with JJ...

https://twitter.com/ESPNNBA/status/1217670755145732097


We need JJ Redick on this team.


We got some people here very sensitive about this topic. They believe it's absolutely stupid to connect hair style, fashion and social media with how hard a player works. Here is a NBA player talking about this. Maybe JJ Redick is stupid too and doesn't know what he's talking about? LOL!

We have one NBA player saying the world is flat.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:36 am    Post subject:

lakersboy wrote:
Runway8 wrote:
Outspoken wrote:
lounger wrote:
I agree with JJ...

https://twitter.com/ESPNNBA/status/1217670755145732097


We need JJ Redick on this team.


We got some people here very sensitive about this topic. They believe it's absolutely stupid to connect hair style, fashion and social media with how hard a player works. Here is a NBA player talking about this. Maybe JJ Redick is stupid too and doesn't know what he's talking about? LOL!

We have one NBA player saying the world is flat.


Maybe it is
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:03 am    Post subject:

4 points, a JJ diss, and 49 points by BI. It hurts everywhere Dic!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:14 am    Post subject:

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4 points, a JJ diss, and 49 points by BI. It hurts everywhere Dic!


BI's performance is relevant to Kuzma how?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:16 am    Post subject:

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4 points, a JJ diss, and 49 points by BI. It hurts everywhere Dic!


BI's performance is relevant to Kuzma how?


Indirectly. Lakers kept Kuz because of his contract, but optically, he was the one they kept.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:03 am    Post subject:

AFireInside619 wrote:
jonnybravo wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
4 points, a JJ diss, and 49 points by BI. It hurts everywhere Dic!


BI's performance is relevant to Kuzma how?


Indirectly. Lakers kept Kuz because of his contract, but optically, he was the one they kept.

Media also told us lakers valued him and didn’t want to let him go...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:45 am    Post subject:

PayasoLoco wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
jonnybravo wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
4 points, a JJ diss, and 49 points by BI. It hurts everywhere Dic!


BI's performance is relevant to Kuzma how?


Indirectly. Lakers kept Kuz because of his contract, but optically, he was the one they kept.

Media also told us lakers valued him and didn’t want to let him go...


If true, the Lakers FO is a (bleep) joke for keeping him over BI. If we don't win at least one championship or AD leaves in the summer, it's gonna be a long ugly road back to the playoffs, and BI will be a perennial all-star.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:49 am    Post subject:

The Pelicans BEGGED for Kuz. They said if we gave up Kuz, we could keep BI, Zo, and Josh.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:08 am    Post subject:

I'll take Kuz and the 33-8 record.

The Lakers don't have a 3rd star, like what we hoped Kuzma would be this year. The injuries, the adjustment to having not one but two superstars, Rondo passing him the ball, like he is passing a kidney stone....

We are more of the "super friends" lineup, usually two or more guys answer the call next to Davis and Lebron. Sometimes its Kuzma, but often it is KCP, Howard, McGee, coming up with the 15 points and other key stats. We can win this way, but come playoff time we are going to need a consistent guard playmaking and scoring, and probably some front court depth.

Best bet is going to be the waiver wire, if someone gets cut or becomes available. Kuzma trades are not going to bring us back some $2 million dollar all-star, who fits in perfectly with the team in five minutes. Maybe its Collision, Iggy, but we have done well with what we have up till now.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:16 am    Post subject:

PayasoLoco wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
jonnybravo wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
4 points, a JJ diss, and 49 points by BI. It hurts everywhere Dic!


BI's performance is relevant to Kuzma how?


Indirectly. Lakers kept Kuz because of his contract, but optically, he was the one they kept.

Media also told us lakers valued him and didn’t want to let him go...


It was a face saving move IMO.

If you're the Pels GM, are you taking Kuz instead of BI or Zo or the 4th pick? Of course not. Use some common sense folks. If we could have kept any one of BI/Zo/4th and had the cap space to pursue KL, of course we would have. But the Pels rightfully asked for our best assets for a future HOFer in his prime in AD.

It was more likely down to Hart v. Kuz.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:20 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
PayasoLoco wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
jonnybravo wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
4 points, a JJ diss, and 49 points by BI. It hurts everywhere Dic!


BI's performance is relevant to Kuzma how?


Indirectly. Lakers kept Kuz because of his contract, but optically, he was the one they kept.

Media also told us lakers valued him and didn’t want to let him go...


It was a face saving move IMO.

If you're the Pels GM, are you taking Kuz instead of BI or Zo or the 4th pick? Of course not. Use some common sense folks. If we could have kept any one of BI/Zo/4th and had the cap space to pursue KL, of course we would have. But the Pels rightfully asked for our best assets for a future HOFer in his prime in AD.

It was more likely down to Hart v. Kuz.


If the Pelicans would only accept a package centered around BI for AD, that's one thing. If we only traded BI to free cap space for KL (an injury prone star that only won a championship as the man because the opposing team was decimated by injuries), that was stupid af.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:22 am    Post subject:

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The Pelicans BEGGED for Kuz. They said if we gave up Kuz, we could keep BI, Zo, and Josh.


100% False
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:24 am    Post subject:

kwyitkilla wrote:
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The Pelicans BEGGED for Kuz. They said if we gave up Kuz, we could keep BI, Zo, and Josh.


100% False


Its true. I promise. They were also going to let us keep our picks as well if we just sent Kuz.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:33 am    Post subject:

RI Laker wrote:
kwyitkilla wrote:
RI Laker wrote:
The Pelicans BEGGED for Kuz. They said if we gave up Kuz, we could keep BI, Zo, and Josh.


100% False


Its true. I promise. They were also going to let us keep our picks as well if we just sent Kuz.


Also, the NBA would have given us a 1 time cap space waiver to allow Kuz's under 2m deal to be traded for AD's huge deal! However, the Lakers would have to throw in the Hollywood sign.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:37 am    Post subject:

I remember in June I posted that we'll forever regret choosing ass-licker Kuz over BI and got attacked by a mob.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:38 am    Post subject:

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I remember in June I posted that we'll forever regret choosing ass-licker Kuz over BI and got attacked by a mob.


Yes, b/c that was never the Lakers' choice. Maybe we keep 1 more future pick or keep Hart instead of Kuz. That was it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:54 am    Post subject:

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I remember in June I posted that we'll forever regret choosing ass-licker Kuz over BI and got attacked by a mob.


Yes, b/c that was never the Lakers' choice. Maybe we keep 1 more future pick or keep Hart instead of Kuz. That was it.


I wish. Ingram had to go, but Hart is the one we should’ve kept.

Kuzma: 12.9/3.8/1.1/34.2% 3pt
Hart: 10.7/5.9/1.5/35% 3pt
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:58 am    Post subject:

It's possible NOP would've taken Kuz instead of Ingram.

But we didn't choose Kuz over Ingram. We chose Kuz AND max player cap space over Ingram.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:59 am    Post subject:

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yinoma2001 wrote:
ingle wrote:
I remember in June I posted that we'll forever regret choosing ass-licker Kuz over BI and got attacked by a mob.


Yes, b/c that was never the Lakers' choice. Maybe we keep 1 more future pick or keep Hart instead of Kuz. That was it.


I wish. Ingram had to go, but Hart is the one we should’ve kept.

Kuzma: 12.9/3.8/1.1/34.2% 3pt
Hart: 10.7/5.9/1.5/35% 3pt


lets put the entire picture in here:

Kuzma: 24.4mins
Hart: 28.6mins

1 is playing on trash team while the other 1 is playing alongside 2 top 5 players in the league
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:01 am    Post subject:

kikanga wrote:
It's possible NOP would've taken Kuz instead of Ingram.

But we didn't choose Kuz over Ingram. We chose Kuz AND max player cap space over Ingram.


Why? Griffin was drooling over BI.

I don't get how people are discounting the max slot. It has been the Lakers Moby Dick to have a max FA sign (across Jim/Mitch to Magic/Rob to Rob). So of course, under those realities, BI/Zo/4th had to be traded to get AD and have a max slot.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:07 am    Post subject:

kikanga wrote:
It's possible NOP would've taken Kuz instead of Ingram.

But we didn't choose Kuz over Ingram. We chose Kuz AND max player cap space over Ingram.


I think this assessment is fair. Although, the strategy is questionable since BI is a max player at 22 (and showed signs of being one before), so we traded away a max player to have a chance at signing a max player, which makes no sense. Basically, the FO had little confidence in BI as a max player, and they wanted the "sure thing" in Kawhi, Kyrie, etc.
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