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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:18 pm    Post subject:

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It's on Randle to completely change his game..
its not that hard to do because it's the zo effect. Kuz didn't play like this at Utah did he? Did Vander Blue? Nope. The way Zo plays is infectious

You know Julius' passes are bout to be even more fire playing off Zo I can't wait.

I have close to zero reservations about his fit with Zo. Just needs to let the jumper fly like kuz did and everything will open up.


Randle's game so far has been more of a departure from what you want going forward w/ Lonzo, than Kuzma's was at Utah. Kuzma was a shooter his last few months in college, as well as at the combine scrimmage. He was also more willing to work in P/R, and run lanes. Those 3 facets are big question marks for Randle.
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It's on Randle to completely change his game..
its not that hard to do because it's the zo effect. Kuz didn't play like this at Utah did he? Did Vander Blue? Nope. The way Zo plays is infectious

You know Julius' passes are bout to be even more fire playing off Zo I can't wait.

I have close to zero reservations about his fit with Zo. Just needs to let the jumper fly like kuz did and everything will open up.


He needs to run the lanes in transition, and pass ahead on the break, if he still plans on being a transition ballhandler. That's a pretty big difference from last season's slow trot to the wing, shimmy move, and kick it back to Young for a 3.
he'll be doing both. Zo won't be able to go crazy with outlet passes every game like SPL. The competition will be smarter and more athletic. We'll need Randle to grab it off the board and go sometimes to vary our attack. kuz even did this in SPL. It won't necessarily be a grab the board and outlet to Lonzo every single time nor do I think it should be.

More transition/semi transition by way of Zo only helps his game (everyone else's too) Randle by nature has never seemed a grind it out half court offense guy to me. I don't see it as being difficult for him to adjust
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It's on Randle to completely change his game..
its not that hard to do because it's the zo effect. Kuz didn't play like this at Utah did he? Did Vander Blue? Nope. The way Zo plays is infectious

You know Julius' passes are bout to be even more fire playing off Zo I can't wait.

I have close to zero reservations about his fit with Zo. Just needs to let the jumper fly like kuz did and everything will open up.


Randle's game so far has been more of a departure from what you want going forward w/ Lonzo, than Kuzma's was at Utah. Kuzma was a shooter his last few months in college, as well as at the combine scrimmage. He was also more willing to work in P/R, and run lanes. Those 3 facets are big question marks for Randle.
everyone also thought he was a slow back to the basket big like ZBO coming out of college too. He tries to do what is asked of him. With Zo that will be diff than what he did with DLO
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:25 pm    Post subject:

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It's on Randle to completely change his game..
its not that hard to do because it's the zo effect. Kuz didn't play like this at Utah did he? Did Vander Blue? Nope. The way Zo plays is infectious

You know Julius' passes are bout to be even more fire playing off Zo I can't wait.

I have close to zero reservations about his fit with Zo. Just needs to let the jumper fly like kuz did and everything will open up.


Randle's game so far has been more of a departure from what you want going forward w/ Lonzo, than Kuzma's was at Utah. Kuzma was a shooter his last few months in college, as well as at the combine scrimmage. He was also more willing to work in P/R, and run lanes. Those 3 facets are big question marks for Randle.
everyone also thought he was a slow back to the basket big like ZBO coming out of college too. He tries to do what is asked of him. With Zo that will be diff than what he did with DLO


true true. But when it comes to high energy things, Randle often doesn't step up to the plate of what's being asked of him --- so that's where my hesitancy comes from - as well as, if he can shoot. He's been asked to be much better defensively, setting screens, rolling, making quicker reads in transition - and he hasn't.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:28 pm    Post subject:

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It's on Randle to completely change his game..
its not that hard to do because it's the zo effect. Kuz didn't play like this at Utah did he? Did Vander Blue? Nope. The way Zo plays is infectious

You know Julius' passes are bout to be even more fire playing off Zo I can't wait.

I have close to zero reservations about his fit with Zo. Just needs to let the jumper fly like kuz did and everything will open up.


He needs to run the lanes in transition, and pass ahead on the break, if he still plans on being a transition ballhandler. That's a pretty big difference from last season's slow trot to the wing, shimmy move, and kick it back to Young for a 3.
he'll be doing both. Zo won't be able to go crazy with outlet passes every game like SPL. The competition will be smarter and more athletic. We'll need Randle to grab it off the board and go sometimes to vary our attack. kuz even did this in SPL. It won't necessarily be a grab the board and outlet to Lonzo every single time nor do I think it should be.

More transition/semi transition by way of Zo only helps his game (everyone else's too) Randle by nature has never seemed a grind it out half court offense guy to me. I don't see it as being difficult for him to adjust


I would love to see Lonzo be on the receiving end of some lobs and runouts in transition like he was at UCLA, but again that hasn't been Julius's forte to this point.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:33 pm    Post subject:

We gotta wait and see fellas! I understand your points. And it's possible he could fall flat on his face. I think he'll succeed though. I think this year he takes a huge leap offensively with moderate D improvements. And next year if he's still here he hits draymond level impacts
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:47 pm    Post subject:

22 wrote:
We gotta wait and see fellas! I understand your points. And it's possible he could fall flat on his face. I think he'll succeed though. I think this year he takes a huge leap offensively with moderate D improvements. And next year if he's still here he hits draymond level impacts


I'm with you. I'm hopeful things will be good with Lonzo and Julius, and if that happens we're going to the playoffs.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:49 pm    Post subject:

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We gotta wait and see fellas! I understand your points. And it's possible he could fall flat on his face. I think he'll succeed though. I think this year he takes a huge leap offensively with moderate D improvements. And next year if he's still here he hits draymond level impacts


yup, can't wait to see Kuz/Randle out there.. wooh
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:08 pm    Post subject:

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We gotta wait and see fellas! I understand your points. And it's possible he could fall flat on his face. I think he'll succeed though. I think this year he takes a huge leap offensively with moderate D improvements. And next year if he's still here he hits draymond level impacts


yup, can't wait to see Kuz/Randle out there.. wooh


Oh, you just gonna leave out the one man momentum shifter formerly know as lance?
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We gotta wait and see fellas! I understand your points. And it's possible he could fall flat on his face. I think he'll succeed though. I think this year he takes a huge leap offensively with moderate D improvements. And next year if he's still here he hits draymond level impacts


yup, can't wait to see Kuz/Randle out there.. wooh


Oh, you just gonna leave out the one man momentum shifter formerly know as lance?


yea, he got his role..
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:40 am    Post subject:

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I'll wait till I see Julius paired with Lonzo before comparing. My hunch is Zo makes a big difference. Also to see Kuz vs real NBA comp. Julius has had quite a few monster games in the NBA already.


As GT has said, it shouldn't take long to see if they have chemistry together either. It literally took Kuz and Zo just one game to click.


I agree it shouldn't take long but not necessarily a single game. SPL comp is significantly different than reg NBA. We won't even KCP for the first two games with his suspension. But if Zo looks comfortable then it shouldn't take long for the other players to gel


With KCP out the first two games, what do people think of this starting lineup?
PG: Lonzo
SG: Ingram
SF: Kuzma
PF: Randle
C: Lopez
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:36 pm    Post subject:

The other forwards better come in ready because Kuzma is going to bring it!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 3:25 am    Post subject:

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greenfrog wrote:
22 wrote:
I'll wait till I see Julius paired with Lonzo before comparing. My hunch is Zo makes a big difference. Also to see Kuz vs real NBA comp. Julius has had quite a few monster games in the NBA already.


As GT has said, it shouldn't take long to see if they have chemistry together either. It literally took Kuz and Zo just one game to click.


I agree it shouldn't take long but not necessarily a single game. SPL comp is significantly different than reg NBA. We won't even KCP for the first two games with his suspension. But if Zo looks comfortable then it shouldn't take long for the other players to gel


With KCP out the first two games, what do people think of this starting lineup?
PG: Lonzo
SG: Ingram
SF: Kuzma
PF: Randle
C: Lopez


I bet we start Hart or Ennis so we can adjust Clarkson to his 6th man role early

Lonzo
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:30 am    Post subject:

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I'll wait till I see Julius paired with Lonzo before comparing. My hunch is Zo makes a big difference. Also to see Kuz vs real NBA comp. Julius has had quite a few monster games in the NBA already.


As GT has said, it shouldn't take long to see if they have chemistry together either. It literally took Kuz and Zo just one game to click.


I agree it shouldn't take long but not necessarily a single game. SPL comp is significantly different than reg NBA. We won't even KCP for the first two games with his suspension. But if Zo looks comfortable then it shouldn't take long for the other players to gel


With KCP out the first two games, what do people think of this starting lineup?
PG: Lonzo
SG: Ingram
SF: Kuzma
PF: Randle
C: Lopez


I bet we start Hart or Ennis so we can adjust Clarkson to his 6th man role early

Lonzo
Hart
Ingram
Randle
Lopez


Oh man I wasn't following the quote train and was so confused at first. Will have to figure it out in training camp, but I'd like to see Hart in there.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 5:54 pm    Post subject:

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KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
It's on Randle to completely change his game..
its not that hard to do because it's the zo effect. Kuz didn't play like this at Utah did he? Did Vander Blue? Nope. The way Zo plays is infectious

You know Julius' passes are bout to be even more fire playing off Zo I can't wait.

I have close to zero reservations about his fit with Zo. Just needs to let the jumper fly like kuz did and everything will open up.


Randle's game so far has been more of a departure from what you want going forward w/ Lonzo, than Kuzma's was at Utah. Kuzma was a shooter his last few months in college, as well as at the combine scrimmage. He was also more willing to work in P/R, and run lanes. Those 3 facets are big question marks for Randle.
everyone also thought he was a slow back to the basket big like ZBO coming out of college too. He tries to do what is asked of him. With Zo that will be diff than what he did with DLO

Nope I thought he played like a brute, like when LeBron hurdles into the lane. I also thought he didn't have Lebron's athleticism, vision, or perimeter skills.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:23 pm    Post subject:

Rookies praise Kyle Kuzma for his shooting ability

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Recently, NBA Rookies were polled about who they thought was the best shooter in the draft was.


https://lakeshowlife.com/2017/08/25/los-angeles-lakers-rookies-praise-kyle-kuzma-shooting-ability/
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:47 pm    Post subject:

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Rookies praise Kyle Kuzma for his shooting ability

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Recently, NBA Rookies were polled about who they thought was the best shooter in the draft was.


https://lakeshowlife.com/2017/08/25/los-angeles-lakers-rookies-praise-kyle-kuzma-shooting-ability/


He only got 5.4 percent of the votes? Prove em wrong Kuz.
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Rookies praise Kyle Kuzma for his shooting ability

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Recently, NBA Rookies were polled about who they thought was the best shooter in the draft was.


https://lakeshowlife.com/2017/08/25/los-angeles-lakers-rookies-praise-kyle-kuzma-shooting-ability/


He only got 5.4 percent of the votes? Prove em wrong Kuz.


I look for Kuz to average 8-10 points per game this season. He has all the skills to be a really good player in this league. He will be a big part of this team going forward.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:01 pm    Post subject:

We're so busy wondering if his SPL play will translate. He got better after college and has 3 months to get even better before the season starts. Whether it's this year or beyond, his game is going to grow even better. He's on pace to be a bright star one day in the future.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:50 pm    Post subject:

Watching the Lakers/Celtics summer league game on Spectrum right now. Kuz is such an underrated passer. He just keeps swinging the ball and finding cutters. The ball doesn't stick in his hands. He's a joy to watch. Complete opposite of Randle.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:21 pm    Post subject:

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Watching the Lakers/Celtics summer league game on Spectrum right now. Kuz is such an underrated passer. He just keeps swinging the ball and finding cutters. The ball doesn't stick in his hands. He's a joy to watch. Complete opposite of Randle.


Yeah and I think that's exactly what Luke wants... Nance does it well too (though not on the level of Kuz). Randle is very much a good player but I see him more of a small ball C if he's in there for closing mins. Kuz is just better suited for today's PF.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 2:59 am    Post subject:

Ziggy wrote:
Watching the Lakers/Celtics summer league game on Spectrum right now. Kuz is such an underrated passer. He just keeps swinging the ball and finding cutters. The ball doesn't stick in his hands. He's a joy to watch. Complete opposite of Randle.


There is really no comparisons and we have results to show that.

Another thing is that he took the challenge going after one of the most offensively skilled players of his class and didn't back down.

I'm a bit anxious to see how his skillset translates to the next level, because while in my head Nance was clearly a better player than Randle by a small margin, Kuzma skillset makes him the natural long term fit at this position.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:25 am    Post subject:

Nice interview given by Jesse Buss about Kuzma and the draft

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Buss: We’ve kept the process the same. With the input of our scouts, we all work together to orchestrate our big board, and Kuzma was the highest guy on our board when we came up at No. 27. We actually had him much higher than 27th on our board; it just worked out that he fell to us. We were ecstatic when we made the pick.

MT: I know you won’t tell me exactly where you had him on the board, but it was significantly higher?

Buss: Yes a significant number. Several spots. He was our highest ranked college prospect we’ve gotten outside the lottery (in the past several years). This being the deep draft that it was, you just felt like getting a top-20 pick – at least in our rankings – was going to be a rotational player no matter what. He gives us a different look in terms of what we have at that position.


Considering Shaw said last year that Zubac was #16 in their board, Kuzma was likely a lottery pick for the Lakers scouting team. Major props!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:16 pm    Post subject:

I take these interviews with a slight grain of salt. Like how Danny Ainge says how Tatum was his #1 pick all along. Nothing wrong with it but it's impossible to verify, and can also be self-serving.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:43 pm    Post subject:

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Watching the Lakers/Celtics summer league game on Spectrum right now. Kuz is such an underrated passer. He just keeps swinging the ball and finding cutters. The ball doesn't stick in his hands. He's a joy to watch. Complete opposite of Randle.


Yeah and I think that's exactly what Luke wants... Nance does it well too (though not on the level of Kuz). Randle is very much a good player but I see him more of a small ball C if he's in there for closing mins. Kuz is just better suited for today's PF.


IMO Kuz and Nance can man the PF slot if we loose Randle in our bid to land some big name free agents.

Both Nance and Kuz are superior defenders and Kuz is a superior shooter than both Randle and Nance. We would be more than fine loosing Randle, we would actually improve. Defense and spacing wins games now. And combined they are much cheaper than Julius.

Big year ahead for Randle to prove the doubters (me) wrong.
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