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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:54 pm    Post subject:

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The irony is Kuzma has some of the same deficiencies as Nance. For instance, he is undersized at the pf position which makes him a net negative on nights where he's not scoring well. My hope is that he develops some good defensive instincts to make up for his size.

That doesn't really seem like the same deficiencies as Nance
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:00 pm    Post subject:

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The irony is Kuzma has some of the same deficiencies as Nance. For instance, he is undersized at the pf position which makes him a net negative on nights where he's not scoring well. My hope is that he develops some good defensive instincts to make up for his size.

That doesn't really seem like the same deficiencies as Nance

yeah, Nance was undersized for C position but not PF
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:34 pm    Post subject:

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The irony is Kuzma has some of the same deficiencies as Nance. For instance, he is undersized at the pf position which makes him a net negative on nights where he's not scoring well. My hope is that he develops some good defensive instincts to make up for his size.

That doesn't really seem like the same deficiencies as Nance

yeah, Nance was undersized for C position but not PF


Personally i think Nance is Under sized at both power forward and center. Obviously Nance has more issues than that but i believe it is something him and Kuzma share.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:51 am    Post subject:

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The irony is Kuzma has some of the same deficiencies as Nance. For instance, he is undersized at the pf position which makes him a net negative on nights where he's not scoring well. My hope is that he develops some good defensive instincts to make up for his size.

That doesn't really seem like the same deficiencies as Nance

And I bet there were many nights where Larry was a net positive despite scoring in single digits. He was just a much better team defender and rebounder than Kuzma will likely ever be. But that's okay, because Kuzma is ten times the offensive player LNJ will ever be.

They're just two very different players.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:10 am    Post subject:

They are two different players. Nance could be unproductive or apprehensive on offense but still help the team succeed. Kuzma can get hot shooting and help the team succeed, or if he struggles shooting, not help the team at all.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:19 pm    Post subject:

Yup- Kuz can provide a lot more help on offense, but his D is not even close to Larry at this point. Not sure it ever will be because Larry was longer and bouncier, but Kuz will improve on D as time goes on. He has already improved as the season has gone on. Gotta role with the guys we have.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:12 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
He was just a much better team defender and rebounder than Kuzma will likely ever be. But that's okay, because Kuzma is ten times the offensive player LNJ will ever be.

I won’t say ever be, because i’m Hopeful Kuzma wants to be and is Serious enough that he Will be that team defender we need. He’ll study and work on it as madly as the rest of his game.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:54 pm    Post subject:

I hope Kuz used the break to recharge his batteries
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:03 pm    Post subject:

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He was just a much better team defender and rebounder than Kuzma will likely ever be. But that's okay, because Kuzma is ten times the offensive player LNJ will ever be.

I won’t say ever be, because i’m Hopeful Kuzma wants to be and is Serious enough that he Will be that team defender we need. He’ll study and work on it as madly as the rest of his game.

Just watching Julius's strides and thinking about some of Kuz's quotes... I am optimistic he'll get there. I don't think he'll ever be as impactful as LNJ defensively -- not just in measurables but LNJ had a very keen understanding of the game defensively (his STL% is outlier good for a big). But to be an average defensive big will probably be fine for Kuz because he projects to be really good offensively.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:37 am    Post subject:

Hey I wonder if Traci Lords and Kuz are related? Traci Elizabeth Lords (born Nora Louise Kuzma; May 7, 1968) is an American actress, singer, model, writer, producer, and director. During the 1980s, she was one of the most sought-after pornographic actresses in the industry. She achieved notoriety after law enforcement discovered that she was underage when she posed nude and appeared in numerous X–rated films. The resulting withdrawal of her films from distributors and rental stores cost the industry millions of dollars and her case became the biggest scandal to affect the adult film industry.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:33 am    Post subject:

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Hey I wonder if Traci Lords and Kuz are related? Traci Elizabeth Lords (born Nora Louise Kuzma; May 7, 1968) is an American actress, singer, model, writer, producer, and director. During the 1980s, she was one of the most sought-after pornographic actresses in the industry. She achieved notoriety after law enforcement discovered that she was underage when she posed nude and appeared in numerous X–rated films. The resulting withdrawal of her films from distributors and rental stores cost the industry millions of dollars and her case became the biggest scandal to affect the adult film industry.


Whaaaa? ......





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Jellojigglin wrote:
Hey I wonder if Traci Lords and Kuz are related? Traci Elizabeth Lords (born Nora Louise Kuzma; May 7, 1968) is an American actress, singer, model, writer, producer, and director. During the 1980s, she was one of the most sought-after pornographic actresses in the industry. She achieved notoriety after law enforcement discovered that she was underage when she posed nude and appeared in numerous X–rated films. The resulting withdrawal of her films from distributors and rental stores cost the industry millions of dollars and her case became the biggest scandal to affect the adult film industry.

Well, I think you'd need fluid samples from both to be sure. It's up to you how you get em.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:36 am    Post subject:

Kuzma is named in this article. Is it possible this is weighing on him and affecting his play? Or maybe he doesn't give a rat's you-know-what.

https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-federal-documents-detail-sweeping-potential-ncaa-violations-involving-high-profile-players-schools-103338484.html
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:47 am    Post subject:

^^^I saw he was listed this morning....but I would suspect he really does not care a great deal....there is no real negative impact on him now.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:03 am    Post subject:

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^^^I saw he was listed this morning....but I would suspect he really does not care a great deal....there is no real negative impact on him now.


Given how common and widespread this is in college basketball, he really might not give it a second thought. And he hasn't lacked in confidence this season. Then again, some people really can be affected by something that they may feel is embarrassing, and maybe he feels that being "outed" here is embarrassing. Ultimately, I would tend to believe that this won't impact him. It's not like he's at risk of being penalized by the NBA or anything.
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^^^I saw he was listed this morning....but I would suspect he really does not care a great deal....there is no real negative impact on him now.


Given how common and widespread this is in college basketball, he really might not give it a second thought. And he hasn't lacked in confidence this season. Then again, some people really can be affected by something that they may feel is embarrassing, and maybe he feels that being "outed" here is embarrassing. Ultimately, I would tend to believe that this won't impact him. It's not like he's at risk of being penalized by the NBA or anything.


I was really surprised at how small most of the amounts were....if anything, these players and their families are not very smart in risking their eligibility for such moderate amounts of cash.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:45 am    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
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^^^I saw he was listed this morning....but I would suspect he really does not care a great deal....there is no real negative impact on him now.


Given how common and widespread this is in college basketball, he really might not give it a second thought. And he hasn't lacked in confidence this season. Then again, some people really can be affected by something that they may feel is embarrassing, and maybe he feels that being "outed" here is embarrassing. Ultimately, I would tend to believe that this won't impact him. It's not like he's at risk of being penalized by the NBA or anything.


I was really surprised at how small most of the amounts were....if anything, these players and their families are not very smart in risking their eligibility for such moderate amounts of cash.


Most likely getting money from multiple agencies/sources.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:43 am    Post subject:

CHEATER!!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:44 am    Post subject:

But seriously... who gives a sht...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:54 am    Post subject:

It's amazing, the amount of energy and resources spent by multiple agencies to keep these kids from getting paid.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:55 am    Post subject:

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But seriously... who gives a sht...


Yeah, I pretty much fall into this camp on the matter.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:59 am    Post subject:

https://twitter.com/kylekuzma/status/966169478206775297

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:08 am    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
adkindo wrote:
^^^I saw he was listed this morning....but I would suspect he really does not care a great deal....there is no real negative impact on him now.


Given how common and widespread this is in college basketball, he really might not give it a second thought. And he hasn't lacked in confidence this season. Then again, some people really can be affected by something that they may feel is embarrassing, and maybe he feels that being "outed" here is embarrassing. Ultimately, I would tend to believe that this won't impact him. It's not like he's at risk of being penalized by the NBA or anything.


I was really surprised at how small most of the amounts were....if anything, these players and their families are not very smart in risking their eligibility for such moderate amounts of cash.
its not about being very smart. these families are very broke. when you're very broke smarts goes out the window more times than not. how do you think corner drug dealers are made? thats not a smart profession to go into for most of them. yet they do it. why? they're flat broke. when you're that broke you will take darn near anything to not be flat broke. and when someone knows this about you, they use you. the smart broke ones that dont get jailed forever or murdered early on end up flipping it into something else(jay z is an excellent example of this . a highly intelligent broke kid that sold drugs).
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:10 am    Post subject:

BizLA wrote:
But seriously... who gives a sht...
THE FBI. lol. but not us.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:39 am    Post subject:

I'm with Koozy too
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