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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 10:43 am    Post subject:

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If hoping a player does better than I expect him to is hating then Iíve been hating on every Lakers player since I was born.


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Unfortunately, it doesn't come off as genuine.


I can genuinely root for Kuzma without setting unrealistic expectations. I just compared him to Klay Thompson, apparently thatís not enough.


Klay Thompson is really Just a shooter albeit one of the greatest shooters of all times with some defense his offensive game is not a divers as kuzma.Also they ran the offense through Klay when curry was out a lot he ran through screens and all that like Reggie Miller shooters that had the offense ran through them.


Klay is a known lock down defender for his team across the NBA. He can also stretch the floor and shoots a nice J. Plays with an under control pace.

I like the comp - it's mostly due to similar quick release - but Kuz isn't there defensively yet.


Both attack close outs well and struggle to penetrate set defenses, are assisted on a lot of their shots, and good spot up shooters.

I never thought Iíd be called a hater for saying he could reach Klay level impact on offense. Thatís LG for ya.


You're not a hater. Like I said I like the comp. It's difficult to compare players that play different positions. I see Klay as a better 1 v 1 defender right now, and better shooting the ball running off screens.

Kuz was just about the brightest aspect of our offense this season. Honestly, I'd love to have both Klay and Kuz n the Purple n Gold. Especially if we are unable to land KL.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 10:49 am    Post subject:

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It's funny how people go right to blaming Kuzma for skipping out on what would've been a contractual obligation to play paintball, and worry about him going Hollywood. As though there aren't other explanations that make more sense.


Yeah, sport fans criticizing what players do off the court is always fascinating to me. It's as if we feel we know these players as people and they have to live their lives according to our standards.

A kid from Flint Michigan is enjoying life in ways he never dreamed of and a bunch of people at home on the internet criticize him for it.

This is his most recent re-tweet: https://twitter.com/SLAMonline/status/996015984531136512
(he's fine guys)

Also, my friend spoke to him on the phone during the season because Kuz is a fan of my friend's training and YT series. My friend said he 'He's chill but also you can sense he grew up hood. He wants it though and is focused."

An interesting story about Kuzma...

Close to almost a year ago, my friends (one of them being the same guy who spoke to him on the phone) were invited to the NBA combine to document it. (They're both skills trainers). They came back and I asked who impressed you the most. They said, "No one really looked that good, but this one guy Kyle Kuzma. I hope the Lakers draft him. Whoever gets him is getting a steal."

I had no idea who Kyle was (I don't watch much college ball). They called it and whenever I see them I remind them how well they assessed him at the combine.

These hoopers work really hard so they can also enjoy these off-seasons. I'm not worried about Kyle.


I've spent a decent amount of time around Kuz, and yeah, he does have an edge to him. Him and Josh Hart were my favorite two guys to cover this past season, for different reasons. Kuz is very much an alpha and the leader of the young guys. (Randle doesn't count, he's not really a part of that crew and is a family man)

But even outside of that, I think it's a lot more likely that there was a miscommunication somewhere rather than him going "screw you guys, I'm gonna go play paintball!" Dude's done a ton of charity events and/or appearances this year, but now he's an (bleep) who's going Hollywood?
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 10:53 am    Post subject:

It's pretty simple to me: don't schedule events that you aren't going to show up for, and if you decide to cancel, at least have the courtesy to let fans know in advance, because they have their own commitments and things to do. And then when you have unruly crowds, media representatives and kids that waited up to 4 hours asking why you couldn't show up, you'd better have a damn good explanation outside of "paintball obligations". It reflects poorly not just on Kuz, but also on Pelinka and Magic -- because Kuz is also repping the Lakers organization. The team wouldn't be what it is without the fans and their unwavering support. The numerous all-star votes he received are an indication of that. This really applies to any player that organizes and schedules an event with the fans. Of course it will get magnified if it happens in a market as big as LA. I don't blame them one bit.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:00 am    Post subject:

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It's pretty simple to me: don't schedule events that you aren't going to show up for, and if you decide to cancel, at least have the courtesy to let fans know in advance, because they have their own commitments and things to do. And then when you have unruly crowds, media representatives and kids that waited up to 4 hours asking why you couldn't show up, you'd better have a damn good explanation outside of "paintball obligations". It reflects poorly not just on Kuz, but also on Pelinka and Magic -- because Kuz is also repping the Lakers organization. The team wouldn't be what it is without the fans and their unwavering support. The numerous all-star votes he received are an indication of that. This really applies to any player that organizes and schedules an event with the fans. Of course it will get magnified if it happens in a market as big as LA. I don't blame them one bit.


Do you really think that Kuz is the person who is organizing and scheduling these events?
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:03 am    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:05 am    Post subject:

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It's pretty simple to me: don't schedule events that you aren't going to show up for, and if you decide to cancel, at least have the courtesy to let fans know in advance, because they have their own commitments and things to do. And then when you have unruly crowds, media representatives and kids that waited up to 4 hours asking why you couldn't show up, you'd better have a damn good explanation outside of "paintball obligations". It reflects poorly not just on Kuz, but also on Pelinka and Magic -- because Kuz is also repping the Lakers organization. The team wouldn't be what it is without the fans and their unwavering support. The numerous all-star votes he received are an indication of that. This really applies to any player that organizes and schedules an event with the fans. Of course it will get magnified if it happens in a market as big as LA. I don't blame them one bit.


Do you really think that Kuz is the person who is organizing and scheduling these events?


It's a hard sell to say he is an independent entity or has no say in scheduling decisions. Moreover, it's difficult to believe they would schedule something without some level of input from him. How many times has this happened that we know of?
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:21 am    Post subject:

Why don't you get the facts straight before crapping all over Kuz possibly for no reason. Do some research as to what happened and why.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:55 am    Post subject:

God bless this thread title
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 1:43 pm    Post subject:

This is Clint Parks, Kuz' trainer. I looks like he also trained Kawhi Leonard.

https://twitter.com/Brotherhood05/status/996073309413388289?s=20
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 2:47 pm    Post subject:

Whether his fault or not I'm guessing the Lakers talked to Kuz about this to get his side of the story. Having a respectable public image seems to be very important to Jeanie, Magic, and the rest of the Lakers organization.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 4:41 pm    Post subject:

Kyle Kuzma went against both Lonzo and BI in college.

Twitter Q.A asks him "best player you went up against in college"

Kuzma "B.I"

probably just (bleep) with Lonzo but still cool to see
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 4:45 pm    Post subject:

Don't idolize pro athletes.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 5:01 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 5:33 pm    Post subject:

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If hoping a player does better than I expect him to is hating then Iíve been hating on every Lakers player since I was born.


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Unfortunately, it doesn't come off as genuine.


I can genuinely root for Kuzma without setting unrealistic expectations. I just compared him to Klay Thompson, apparently thatís not enough.


Klay Thompson is really Just a shooter albeit one of the greatest shooters of all times with some defense his offensive game is not a divers as kuzma.Also they ran the offense through Klay when curry was out a lot he ran through screens and all that like Reggie Miller shooters that had the offense ran through them.


Klay is a known lock down defender for his team across the NBA. He can also stretch the floor and shoots a nice J. Plays with an under control pace.

I like the comp - it's mostly due to similar quick release - but Kuz isn't there defensively yet.


Both attack close outs well and struggle to penetrate set defenses, are assisted on a lot of their shots, and good spot up shooters.

I never thought Iíd be called a hater for saying he could reach Klay level impact on offense. Thatís LG for ya.



Who called you a hater I specifically was talking about people saying he's a 6th man or 7th or 8th man on a team I'm like ain't no way. Now we disagree (and that's okay) on what type of player he can be but I am by no means calling you a hater. I believe we all want the same thing Great players and championships.Fyi when Intake about people hating I'm not only talking about LG but other media forms y'all should read some of the comments on YouTube videos about kuzma 😂.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 5:44 pm    Post subject:

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Don't idolize pro athletes.

This is true for anyone over the age of 18. Still messed up on Kuz part to freeze out his fans
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Lakers great32 wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
Kava wrote:
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BigGameHames wrote:
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If hoping a player does better than I expect him to is hating then Iíve been hating on every Lakers player since I was born.


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Unfortunately, it doesn't come off as genuine.


I can genuinely root for Kuzma without setting unrealistic expectations. I just compared him to Klay Thompson, apparently thatís not enough.


Klay Thompson is really Just a shooter albeit one of the greatest shooters of all times with some defense his offensive game is not a divers as kuzma.Also they ran the offense through Klay when curry was out a lot he ran through screens and all that like Reggie Miller shooters that had the offense ran through them.


Klay is a known lock down defender for his team across the NBA. He can also stretch the floor and shoots a nice J. Plays with an under control pace.

I like the comp - it's mostly due to similar quick release - but Kuz isn't there defensively yet.


Both attack close outs well and struggle to penetrate set defenses, are assisted on a lot of their shots, and good spot up shooters.

I never thought Iíd be called a hater for saying he could reach Klay level impact on offense. Thatís LG for ya.



Who called you a hater I specifically was talking about people saying he's a 6th man or 7th or 8th man on a team I'm like ain't no way. Now we disagree (and that's okay) on what type of player he can be but I am by no means calling you a hater. I believe we all want the same thing Great players and championships.Fyi when Intake about people hating I'm not only talking about LG but other media forms y'all should read some of the comments on YouTube videos about kuzma 😂.


Ive heard most media call him a future star
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 6:03 pm    Post subject:

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Don't idolize pro athletes.

This is true for anyone over the age of 18. Still messed up on Kuz part to freeze out his fans


It may not have been his fault. Like GT said it could have been a scheduling issue that he had no control over. If he did it on his own then yeah that's messed up. But you should find out why he had to miss the event before blaming him.
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Don't idolize pro athletes.

This is true for anyone over the age of 18. Still messed up on Kuz part to freeze out his fans


It may not have been his fault. Like GT said it could have been a scheduling issue that he had no control over. If he did it on his own then yeah that's messed up. But you should get your facts straight before blaming him for what happened.

True we dont know what went down. when that usually happens the athlete or entertainer usually posts an apology and explains what happened. The silence is kinda fishy. I mean I dont care I wasnt out there waiting but im sure an explanation to the people who wasted a whole day to see him deserve it
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 6:25 pm    Post subject:

Car54 wrote:
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BigGameHames wrote:
Kava wrote:
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If hoping a player does better than I expect him to is hating then Iíve been hating on every Lakers player since I was born.


Quote:
Unfortunately, it doesn't come off as genuine.


I can genuinely root for Kuzma without setting unrealistic expectations. I just compared him to Klay Thompson, apparently thatís not enough.


Klay Thompson is really Just a shooter albeit one of the greatest shooters of all times with some defense his offensive game is not a divers as kuzma.Also they ran the offense through Klay when curry was out a lot he ran through screens and all that like Reggie Miller shooters that had the offense ran through them.


Klay is a known lock down defender for his team across the NBA. He can also stretch the floor and shoots a nice J. Plays with an under control pace.

I like the comp - it's mostly due to similar quick release - but Kuz isn't there defensively yet.


Both attack close outs well and struggle to penetrate set defenses, are assisted on a lot of their shots, and good spot up shooters.

I never thought Iíd be called a hater for saying he could reach Klay level impact on offense. Thatís LG for ya.



Who called you a hater I specifically was talking about people saying he's a 6th man or 7th or 8th man on a team I'm like ain't no way. Now we disagree (and that's okay) on what type of player he can be but I am by no means calling you a hater. I believe we all want the same thing Great players and championships.Fyi when Intake about people hating I'm not only talking about LG but other media forms y'all should read some of the comments on YouTube videos about kuzma 😂.


Ive heard most media call him a future star

I'm not talking about media I'm talking about later fans. It's funny NBA players see that he has the potential to be better than fans do seen retired and active players saying he's got that dog in him or he's going to be a problem in this league but we have fans saying oh he's a bench role player.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:48 pm    Post subject:

Things happen, I forgot I made a doctor's appointment last week and had to call back and reschedule. I am sure over his long career, Kuzma will make it up many times over for charity events, visiting sick kids in the hospital, etc.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 6:28 am    Post subject:

The fear of Kuzma being the face of this franchise brings out the worst in some Laker fans.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 6:31 am    Post subject:

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Things happen, I forgot I made a doctor's appointment last week and had to call back and reschedule. I am sure over his long career, Kuzma will make it up many times over for charity events, visiting sick kids in the hospital, etc.


Except he or his people had already contacted the place and said what Kuzma would and wouldn't be doing. So there was communication, he knew about the event, he was scheduled to be there, and he no showed.

Had he not made any contact and gone radio silent on social media then it would be easier to understand. But he didn't do either.

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Saw he was paintballing tho... lol. Just saw this info on twitter so I donít really know everything.

E: people said they waited 4 hours for him


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One of my friends went with his kid who loves Kuzma. He said they were there for 3 hours. Then I searched more on twitter and other people were posting about it too. Like I said, donít really know too much.


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This little kid and his family lined up at 2:00 am to try and meet him. The little kid was crying so much when we told him Kuzma wasnít coming


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I work at the store where the event took place and it was really lame. We knew something was up when they told us before the event started that he wasnít signing anything and was just taking pictures. They couldíve given us a heads up but he just straight up didnít show up.

It was sad because a lot of people lined up as early as 2:00 am to try and meet him but he flaked to play some paintball... We had to deal with some angry customers which is understandable and gave them some gift cards to try and make up for what happened. Itís not all that bad because we got to meet Metta World Peace yesterday and he was super cool and gave away free panda shirts. Iíd like to think Kuzma had an emergency but he was active on social media today and didnít seem to have anything important going on


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that's not cool.

Edit: Here's the wss meet and greet announcement: https://www.facebook.com/events/428466990910242/

And about him not showing up if you search it on twitter you'll see people talking about waiting in line since 3 am and he didn't even call to cancel.


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yeah, i have a laker page on instagram and i was invited as a media rep, and he didn't show :/ i got a mwp hat...

but wss was really nice about it, and they could not do anything about it


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Kuzma does soooo many [expletive] meet and greets. Give him a break for not going to 1

Donít schedule [expletive] you arenít going to show up for. And certainly donít no call no show when youíre fortunate enough to be in the situation heís in. Heís a professional NBA player now, PROFESSIONAL comes first and he should act like one. He wouldnít be in Los Angeles with the chance to make millions if it wasnít for the same people who he left waiting for hours.

https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/8j0t4p/apparently_kyle_kuzma_had_a_meet_greet_today_and/



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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 6:50 am    Post subject:

^Maybe we should hear Kuz's team speak on this before we make assumptions.
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^Maybe we should hear Kuz's team speak on this before we make assumptions.


"Your people or you called to discuss what you'd be doing later that day. You then decided not to show up later that day and went paintballing instead without relaying that message to anyone at the event which in turn left people waiting for hours. What's your explanation?"


That would be an interesting answer.

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It's pretty simple to me: don't schedule events that you aren't going to show up for, and if you decide to cancel, at least have the courtesy to let fans know in advance, because they have their own commitments and things to do. And then when you have unruly crowds, media representatives and kids that waited up to 4 hours asking why you couldn't show up, you'd better have a damn good explanation outside of "paintball obligations". It reflects poorly not just on Kuz, but also on Pelinka and Magic -- because Kuz is also repping the Lakers organization. The team wouldn't be what it is without the fans and their unwavering support. The numerous all-star votes he received are an indication of that. This really applies to any player that organizes and schedules an event with the fans. Of course it will get magnified if it happens in a market as big as LA. I don't blame them one bit.


Do you really think that Kuz is the person who is organizing and scheduling these events?


It's a hard sell to say he is an independent entity or has no say in scheduling decisions. Moreover, it's difficult to believe they would schedule something without some level of input from him. How many times has this happened that we know of?


Particularly if he/his people reached out to those doing the event to explain he'd only be taking pictures and not signing anything.

Which means he/they could have reached out again to say he wasn't coming.
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