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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:52 pm    Post subject:

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While Ingram’s frame remains lean, and a constant source of amusement for his teammates, the second-year small forward has really filled out this season.

As a more diversified scorer, as a defender. And, perhaps most critically, as a leader.

“You can see it when you’re around him every day,” Walton said. “You see how the guys react to him. … That comes from being a leader. They look at him and they get confidence from him when he’s playing well. When we need a bucket, they call his number out there to get him the ball.”

No, Ingram is not the kind of player who will scream at his teammates or motivate vocally. But Coach Luke Walton says Ingram does not need to become a Russell Westbrook or Draymond Green type of leader for the rest of the Lakers to follow him.

“You can definitely be a quiet alpha,” Walton said.

The comparison who came to mind for the Lakers coach was his point guard in college at Arizona: Jason Gardner.

“He was the only guy on our team who didn’t talk,” Walton said. “He was the leader of our group there.”

Ingram has often spoken up after bad losses, taking accountability for the Lakers’ performances. After the Lakers met as a team amid a nine-game losing streak, no player spoke out as forcefully about their need to listen to each other – and for the coaches to listen to the players – than Ingram.

“I’ve seen him get loud at times,” Walton said, “and I think when he does speak up, guys really do listen because it doesn’t happen often.”

The perception from outsiders always seems to be that Kuz is the leader amongst the young core just because he likes to talk, but the FO and the coaching staff have always said it’s BI. His voice is the one that breaks the huddles.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:02 pm    Post subject:

Can ever become strong enough or good enough on defense to play small ball 5 for us someday? He has the length and the outside (bleep) making. His defense on Porzingis was surprisingly good last season. But he’s not a shot blocker and his defense is meh so far.
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Can ever become strong enough or good enough on defense to play small ball 5 for us someday? He has the length and the outside (bleep) making. His defense on Porzingis was surprisingly good last season. But he’s not a shot blocker and his defense is meh so far.


I think so...not until around his prime though. KD does it
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While Ingram’s frame remains lean, and a constant source of amusement for his teammates, the second-year small forward has really filled out this season.

As a more diversified scorer, as a defender. And, perhaps most critically, as a leader.

“You can see it when you’re around him every day,” Walton said. “You see how the guys react to him. … That comes from being a leader. They look at him and they get confidence from him when he’s playing well. When we need a bucket, they call his number out there to get him the ball.”

No, Ingram is not the kind of player who will scream at his teammates or motivate vocally. But Coach Luke Walton says Ingram does not need to become a Russell Westbrook or Draymond Green type of leader for the rest of the Lakers to follow him.

“You can definitely be a quiet alpha,” Walton said.

The comparison who came to mind for the Lakers coach was his point guard in college at Arizona: Jason Gardner.

“He was the only guy on our team who didn’t talk,” Walton said. “He was the leader of our group there.”

Ingram has often spoken up after bad losses, taking accountability for the Lakers’ performances. After the Lakers met as a team amid a nine-game losing streak, no player spoke out as forcefully about their need to listen to each other – and for the coaches to listen to the players – than Ingram.

“I’ve seen him get loud at times,” Walton said, “and I think when he does speak up, guys really do listen because it doesn’t happen often.”

The perception from outsiders always seems to be that Kuz is the leader amongst the young core just because he likes to talk, but the FO and the coaching staff have always said it’s BI. His voice is the one that breaks the huddles.

I really liked that part about Ingram getting riled up at the team meeting. There is no way a kid with that type of heart + work ethic doesn't become a star.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:42 pm    Post subject:

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While Ingram’s frame remains lean, and a constant source of amusement for his teammates, the second-year small forward has really filled out this season.

As a more diversified scorer, as a defender. And, perhaps most critically, as a leader.

“You can see it when you’re around him every day,” Walton said. “You see how the guys react to him. … That comes from being a leader. They look at him and they get confidence from him when he’s playing well. When we need a bucket, they call his number out there to get him the ball.”

No, Ingram is not the kind of player who will scream at his teammates or motivate vocally. But Coach Luke Walton says Ingram does not need to become a Russell Westbrook or Draymond Green type of leader for the rest of the Lakers to follow him.

“You can definitely be a quiet alpha,” Walton said.

The comparison who came to mind for the Lakers coach was his point guard in college at Arizona: Jason Gardner.

“He was the only guy on our team who didn’t talk,” Walton said. “He was the leader of our group there.”

Ingram has often spoken up after bad losses, taking accountability for the Lakers’ performances. After the Lakers met as a team amid a nine-game losing streak, no player spoke out as forcefully about their need to listen to each other – and for the coaches to listen to the players – than Ingram.

“I’ve seen him get loud at times,” Walton said, “and I think when he does speak up, guys really do listen because it doesn’t happen often.”

The perception from outsiders always seems to be that Kuz is the leader amongst the young core just because he likes to talk, but the FO and the coaching staff have always said it’s BI. His voice is the one that breaks the huddles.

I really liked that part about Ingram getting riled up at the team meeting. There is no way a kid with that type of heart + work ethic doesn't become a star.


If that's what's happening behind the scenes then I'm happy to hear it too.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:07 pm    Post subject:

Kuzma will never be small ball 5. We had one in Randle and Bryant and squandered them away.

Kuzma is a little bit of everything from a scorers perspective. It will be interesting to see how much he has improved this year. BI more of a playmakers and better all round game. I expect both players to take big leaps next year with Hart too.

Lonzo may will improve but may not as much as Kuz, BI and Hart due to the knee limiting his practice time. Still he has worked on his body and his BBall IQ so expect improvement with him too.

I think Kuz with the added strength will be fun to watch in the low post where he has the makings of a star.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:45 pm    Post subject:

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Kuzma will never be small ball 5. We had one in Randle and Bryant and squandered them away.

Kuzma is a little bit of everything from a scorers perspective. It will be interesting to see how much he has improved this year. BI more of a playmakers and better all round game. I expect both players to take big leaps next year with Hart too.

Lonzo may will improve but may not as much as Kuz, BI and Hart due to the knee limiting his practice time. Still he has worked on his body and his BBall IQ so expect improvement with him too.

I think Kuz with the added strength will be fun to watch in the low post where he has the makings of a star.


Bryant wasn’t a smallball 5 either, he moved in mud on perimeter D. Imo Kuz will be a fine 5 for 10mpg, all about matchups
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:48 pm    Post subject:

Stretch 5 and small ball 5 isn’t necessarily the same thing. Thomas and Lopez are examples stretch 5s that aren’t small ball. Draymond Green is both.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:17 am    Post subject:

PICKnPOP wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
Can ever become strong enough or good enough on defense to play small ball 5 for us someday? He has the length and the outside (bleep) making. His defense on Porzingis was surprisingly good last season. But he’s not a shot blocker and his defense is meh so far.


I think so...not until around his prime though. KD does it


His prime is about 2-3 years
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:22 am    Post subject:

Well, If Kuzma is Alpha, then Bonga is Zeta??
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:05 pm    Post subject:

I would not put Kuz at the 5. He is too weak physically not enough on his backside to keep most 5s from bullying him. Bron will be our small ball 5
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:57 pm    Post subject:

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I would not put Kuz at the 5. He is too weak physically not enough on his backside to keep most 5s from bullying him. Bron will be our small ball 5
LOL is like you guys havent been watching the NBA. no 1 is playing thrugh their C anymore. if we play Kuzma at C teams will be FORCED to go small and if not we will basically be trading 3pt for 2pt. That is the GSW philosophy.

Imagine Gobert for example trying to post him up, then you have Ingram, Lebron, etf doubling him... Now imagine on the other side of the court. Gobert trying to stay with kuzma...

We have a bunch of guys who can rebound and push and kuzma will outrun C’s everytime and rim run every pos.

another thing is you dont want your C at the 3pt line with kuzma with leron attacking the basket.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:55 am    Post subject:

Kuzma, I think, is gonna be the closest Robin to LeBron's Batman.

Other players have higher ceilings than he does but when its tight he has that attitude and that relentlessness that brought us back into quite a few games we really had no business being in and at times even paced us to a couple of victories.

Hard to tell if he starts on opening night or even as the season progresses, a small detail in the larger picture I think but I expect him on the floor in the 4th more so than any other player not named Lebron.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:12 am    Post subject:

Kuz interview at the ESPY's

https://twitter.com/NBALakersNation/status/1019791285371121664
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