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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:08 pm    Post subject:

Never forget

Kyle Kuzma- Lebron is from the East. But decided to go South while his hairline went North and his mom went West! LOL!!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:15 pm    Post subject:

scooterp10 wrote:
Personally, I love the running hooks he makes. That shot is unguardable. I wonder if he can do it going left as well? I only recall seeing him use his right on that shot.


He has and it’s almost as good... they almost always go in with either hand.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:21 pm    Post subject:

must be the boingvert. i hear it adds 10 feet to your vertical.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:02 pm    Post subject:

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must be the boingvert. i hear it adds 10 feet to your vertical.


One summer I bought boingvert and the ball hog gloves. Let me tell you, it changed my life. I grew 5 inches in a month, now I'm 6'5. I went from a HS basketball player to an elite D1 player.

And the females? The moment I bought these items, they just knew something was different about me. My tinder app shut down cause of a system overload.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:49 pm    Post subject:

Boingvert is actually really effective
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:52 pm    Post subject:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Ronnie2K/status/1027215443889610752

2k19 is trippin’.

Ronnie2k telling Kuz his rating to his face.
Kuz got an 80, while Tatum & Mitchell were 87’s.

Straight Disrespect
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:25 pm    Post subject:

AFireInside619 wrote:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Ronnie2K/status/1027215443889610752

2k19 is trippin’.

Ronnie2k telling Kuz his rating to his face.
Kuz got an 80, while Tatum & Mitchell were 87’s.

Straight Disrespect


Considering that ratings update constantly during the season, I bet Kuzma is higher than Tatum by the ASB
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:39 pm    Post subject:

10scott10 wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Ronnie2K/status/1027215443889610752

2k19 is trippin’.

Ronnie2k telling Kuz his rating to his face.
Kuz got an 80, while Tatum & Mitchell were 87’s.

Straight Disrespect


Considering that ratings update constantly during the season, I bet Kuzma is higher than Tatum by the ASB


Wow.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:47 pm    Post subject:

Does 2K still give you the option to edit ratings manually on offline play?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:02 pm    Post subject:

AFireInside619 wrote:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Ronnie2K/status/1027215443889610752

2k19 is trippin’.

Ronnie2k telling Kuz his rating to his face.
Kuz got an 80, while Tatum & Mitchell were 87’s.

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87 for Tatum?! That’s a joke.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:17 pm    Post subject:

Tatum is that much better than Kuz when you consider both sides of the ball
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:07 pm    Post subject:

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Tatum is that much better than Kuz when you consider both sides of the ball


Regular season Tatum? Or playoff Tatum?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:12 pm    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
what is the consensus on the longer hair?


I like it.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:13 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
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Tatum is that much better than Kuz when you consider both sides of the ball


Regular season Tatum? Or playoff Tatum?


Tatum had a better regular season as well, not 7 points better. But, the playoffs should be weighted a bit..tougher competition
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:34 am    Post subject:

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Tatum is that much better than Kuz when you consider both sides of the ball


On the offensive end I think its a toss up. Kuz is a hell of a scorer, yes on a bad team but that also means without an 'elite' 1 option to play off of.

Defensively its not a competition.

The advanced stats point to Tatum and the playoffs are another competition but Kuzma can play, lets give it another season to play out
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:54 am    Post subject:

PauPau wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Tatum is that much better than Kuz when you consider both sides of the ball


On the offensive end I think its a toss up. Kuz is a hell of a scorer, yes on a bad team but that also means without an 'elite' 1 option to play off of.

Defensively its not a competition.

The advanced stats point to Tatum and the playoffs are another competition but Kuzma can play, lets give it another season to play out


To my eye Tatum is a step above Kuz’ skill, and that was highlighted by him being really good in the playoffs. For example, Kuz doesn’t really dribble well(it’s a good PF handle), Tatum’s footwork is also better attacking from the midrange ,along with his midrange jumper.

I would have Tatum +3 or 3.5 offensively, and +4 defensively.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:07 am    Post subject:

KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
PauPau wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Tatum is that much better than Kuz when you consider both sides of the ball


On the offensive end I think its a toss up. Kuz is a hell of a scorer, yes on a bad team but that also means without an 'elite' 1 option to play off of.

Defensively its not a competition.

The advanced stats point to Tatum and the playoffs are another competition but Kuzma can play, lets give it another season to play out


To my eye Tatum is a step above Kuz’ skill, and that was highlighted by him being really good in the playoffs. For example, Kuz doesn’t really dribble well(it’s a good PF handle), Tatum’s footwork is also better attacking from the midrange ,along with his midrange jumper.

I would have Tatum +3 or 3.5 offensively, and +4 defensively.


Kuzma wasnt in the playoffs and as such, you've reached that conclusion in the absence of comparable data.
Lebron beats Durant in passing and driving to the rim - in every other offensive facet of the game KD is better...by this I mean Kuzma, while not having the tightest handle etc doesnt need to go blow for blow in each category. He has his strengths also, footwork being one, though in different situations and moving without the ball.

Im on the Tatum bandwagon, believe that! Kuzma's skill level though is incredible, and I cant disregard it just yet v Tatum. Lets see the season play out and if it does in your favour, i'll cede.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:57 am    Post subject:

PauPau wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
PauPau wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Tatum is that much better than Kuz when you consider both sides of the ball


On the offensive end I think its a toss up. Kuz is a hell of a scorer, yes on a bad team but that also means without an 'elite' 1 option to play off of.

Defensively its not a competition.

The advanced stats point to Tatum and the playoffs are another competition but Kuzma can play, lets give it another season to play out


To my eye Tatum is a step above Kuz’ skill, and that was highlighted by him being really good in the playoffs. For example, Kuz doesn’t really dribble well(it’s a good PF handle), Tatum’s footwork is also better attacking from the midrange ,along with his midrange jumper.

I would have Tatum +3 or 3.5 offensively, and +4 defensively.


Kuzma wasnt in the playoffs and as such, you've reached that conclusion in the absence of comparable data.
Lebron beats Durant in passing and driving to the rim - in every other offensive facet of the game KD is better...by this I mean Kuzma, while not having the tightest handle etc doesnt need to go blow for blow in each category. He has his strengths also, footwork being one, though in different situations and moving without the ball.

Im on the Tatum bandwagon, believe that! Kuzma's skill level though is incredible, and I cant disregard it just yet v Tatum. Lets see the season play out and if it does in your favour, i'll cede.


I didn’t mean to put their comparison in the vacuum of attribute sliders, but that is actually how the ratings go.
In the more functional sense ——— Tatum is way better at creating for himself off the dribble..because Kuzma doesn’t have close to that handle.
Even their individual player comps for me, highlight who’s the better player — Kuz still has a way to go to be able to create like prime-Gallo , while Tatum looks like he’ll be the last healthy season of Kobe , with better defense

I like Kuz a lot. But he didn’t show star potential to me last season, mainly because he was pedestrian at best with his handle creating. He can still be a couple time allstar. He might actually improve to being the best 3pt shooting bigman in the league, that’s what his ceiling potential is based around IMO. He could score 2nd option PPG one day like KLove in CLE, but Tatum could be a legit go-to scorer - that’s two tiers different to me
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:57 am    Post subject:

For Kuzma to be compared to Tatum is a real big deal. Tatum was the #4 pick in the draft and Kuzma was picked at 27.

Both guys did great and look like they have a great future. Tatum is more of a 3 who can play the 4 and Kuzma is more of a 4 who can play the 3.

Both guys seem to have taken full advantage of the off season to improve so next year should be fun to see their development. I also will be interested in seeing how Kuz plays with some established Vet.

What I am confident of is that Kuz worked really hard and improved his game this off season. I expect him to take a big leap but with all the depth I am not sure he will featured as much as he was last year. So his stats while probably more efficient may not go up that much.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:20 pm    Post subject:

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At #24 of the TOP 60 DIMES from the 2017-18 season... @kylekuzma of the @Lakers!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:14 pm    Post subject:

KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
PauPau wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
PauPau wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Tatum is that much better than Kuz when you consider both sides of the ball


On the offensive end I think its a toss up. Kuz is a hell of a scorer, yes on a bad team but that also means without an 'elite' 1 option to play off of.

Defensively its not a competition.

The advanced stats point to Tatum and the playoffs are another competition but Kuzma can play, lets give it another season to play out


To my eye Tatum is a step above Kuz’ skill, and that was highlighted by him being really good in the playoffs. For example, Kuz doesn’t really dribble well(it’s a good PF handle), Tatum’s footwork is also better attacking from the midrange ,along with his midrange jumper.

I would have Tatum +3 or 3.5 offensively, and +4 defensively.


Kuzma wasnt in the playoffs and as such, you've reached that conclusion in the absence of comparable data.
Lebron beats Durant in passing and driving to the rim - in every other offensive facet of the game KD is better...by this I mean Kuzma, while not having the tightest handle etc doesnt need to go blow for blow in each category. He has his strengths also, footwork being one, though in different situations and moving without the ball.

Im on the Tatum bandwagon, believe that! Kuzma's skill level though is incredible, and I cant disregard it just yet v Tatum. Lets see the season play out and if it does in your favour, i'll cede.


I didn’t mean to put their comparison in the vacuum of attribute sliders, but that is actually how the ratings go.
In the more functional sense ——— Tatum is way better at creating for himself off the dribble..because Kuzma doesn’t have close to that handle.
Even their individual player comps for me, highlight who’s the better player — Kuz still has a way to go to be able to create like prime-Gallo , while Tatum looks like he’ll be the last healthy season of Kobe , with better defense

I like Kuz a lot. But he didn’t show star potential to me last season, mainly because he was pedestrian at best with his handle creating. He can still be a couple time allstar. He might actually improve to being the best 3pt shooting bigman in the league, that’s what his ceiling potential is based around IMO. He could score 2nd option PPG one day like KLove in CLE, but Tatum could be a legit go-to scorer - that’s two tiers different to me


Fun fact, Kuz is a 91 percentile iso scorer, Tatum is at 43.1 percentile. I agree that Tatum was a better ball handler last year. But through a combination of decent ball handling, quickness for his size, pump fakes, footwork plus a bevy of ways to finish once he's inside the paint, Kuz to me has proven to be the better one-on-one scorer.

Offensively, I give Kuz a slight edge over Tatum. Defensively is where Tatum's a league above Kuz. Tatum's got great natural intincts on that end and could become one of the best 2 way players in the years to come. But I think Kuz has recognized his deficiencies as a defender and we'll see whether or not he improves next season.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:18 pm    Post subject:

https://twitter.com/Lakers/status/1027690994437971969

Is that Kuz watching Lebron at the 34s mark?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:25 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
https://twitter.com/Lakers/status/1027690994437971969

Is that Kuz watching Lebron at the 34s mark?


He also appeared at the 20 second mark. Such a camera whore. Just had to be there on Lebron's first official workout video
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:26 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
https://twitter.com/Lakers/status/1027690994437971969

Is that Kuz watching Lebron at the 34s mark?


yup. kcp bi and kuz were all at the facility with bron.

kuz and bi foresure. I think i saw KCP haha. In one of the videos
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Lakesh0wtime wrote:
epak wrote:
https://twitter.com/Lakers/status/1027690994437971969

Is that Kuz watching Lebron at the 34s mark?


yup. kcp bi and kuz were all at the facility with bron.

kuz and bi foresure. I think i saw KCP haha. In one of the videos


I think I saw Zu on the hoop at the other side around the 40 second mark too
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