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LakerLogic Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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LBJ23 wrote: | Could he be Donavan Mitchell? |
Not as dynamic but a better 3pt shooter and defender. |
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Car54 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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LandsbergerRules wrote: | I think by the end of the year, Hart is going to take KCP's spot in the starting lineup. They'll both get a good amount of minutes, though. We're going to need all the 3 pt shooting that they can give. |
You think its gonna take that long? I think training camp unless LA Bron pushes for KCP in the starting lineup _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
Max slot : Kawhi |
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Car54 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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ch3cky0selff00 wrote: | Josh Hart, Ingram, and Kuzma are gonna have so many open looks and lanes to the basket from the attention LeBron pulls to him it's not even gonna be funny.
Dare I say that LeBron will probably be able to coast the majority of the season because he won't be required to do *all* of the ball handling.
Pelinka and Magic have done a tremendous job building this team. People keep talking about the whole shooting thing but I think they actually have great shooters in Kuzma, Hart, KCP, Svi, Ingram and even Wagner.
Not only that but that have playmakers ALL over the place.
LeBron's workload isn't going to be as heavy as it's been in previous years and that was all due (it worked, though) to the teams being filled with specialists who couldn't do much else than shoot with the exception of maybe Kyrie. |
I'm still not a fan of lance because I heard hes a bad defender now _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
Max slot : Kawhi |
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Car54 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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lakersboy wrote: |
LeBron is a penetrator, just like Hart, Ingram, and Kuzma. Even before considering the other pieces on the floor with them, it's going to be a significant problem for defenses to stop all of them because each of them are good shooters.
The pg's and other shooters, cutters, and dunkers around them are going to make this team hard to stop. LeBron saw what we saw and knew he was walking into a gold mine of talent. |
Hart and Lebron bumps you out of the way. Brandon although hes thin seems to power past defenders as well but Kuzma is so smooth driving to the basket and its like he avoids contact while doing so then hits you with the hook shot. _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
Max slot : Kawhi |
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NotHype Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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Car54 wrote: | ch3cky0selff00 wrote: | Josh Hart, Ingram, and Kuzma are gonna have so many open looks and lanes to the basket from the attention LeBron pulls to him it's not even gonna be funny.
Dare I say that LeBron will probably be able to coast the majority of the season because he won't be required to do *all* of the ball handling.
Pelinka and Magic have done a tremendous job building this team. People keep talking about the whole shooting thing but I think they actually have great shooters in Kuzma, Hart, KCP, Svi, Ingram and even Wagner.
Not only that but that have playmakers ALL over the place.
LeBron's workload isn't going to be as heavy as it's been in previous years and that was all due (it worked, though) to the teams being filled with specialists who couldn't do much else than shoot with the exception of maybe Kyrie. |
I'm still not a fan of lance because I heard hes a bad defender now |
I think he’s a great addition!
Gritty/tough player who will go out there compete and get under the opposing players’ skin!! We were a bit soft last season, IMO Rondo and Stephenson add the toughness that this team needs! |
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socalsp3 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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socalsp3 wrote: | acer77 wrote: | socalsp3 wrote: | acer77 wrote: | How's he a steal when he was projected as a 2nd round pick?
Should've drafted White at 28 instead of trying to get cute and losing him to the Spurs.
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A benchwarmer who scores 7ppg? Yeah, pretty much. |
There's more to the game than scoring. Defense, IQ, winning mentality. Draymond was a 4ppg rookie from the 2nd round. He is arguably the GSW MVP. |
To think Some people didn’t like the pick |
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IPK Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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noahp45 wrote: | I called it!
I told everyone Hart would be a beast, what do I win? |
Half a cookie. _________________ Our tribute to Phil, the man behind LG |
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MickMgl Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | There are still a ton of NBA fans, mostly of other teams, who seem to think LeBron James has nobody here to help him win a title. All that means is they haven't been paying attention. |
PJ Carlesimo was expressing the same opinion. He said he thinks the Cavs w/o Lebron could beat the Lakers w/o Lebron. Apparently unaware that the Lakers beat the Cavs last year WITH Lebron. |
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LakerLogic Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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I think Hart's ceiling is pretty high. Damn. Any reason he can't be like Jimmy Butler? |
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hype Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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MickMgl wrote: | TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | There are still a ton of NBA fans, mostly of other teams, who seem to think LeBron James has nobody here to help him win a title. All that means is they haven't been paying attention. |
PJ Carlesimo was expressing the same opinion. He said he thinks the Cavs w/o Lebron could beat the Lakers w/o Lebron. Apparently unaware that the Lakers beat the Cavs last year WITH Lebron. |
It is def. real. I got in an argument with these 5 guys and they all told me the lakers were pure "hot garbage" after lebron and he is here strictly as an early retirement for his family and to get his after basketball roots started. I mentioned how our young core is beastly and they just told me I was a blind homer so at that point I just laughed it off and dropped it, there was no winning until they see it in person once the season starts.
Blows my mind how an actual basketball mind can think it though. I am sure most of those people will give all the credit to Lebron for the reason they are playing so well but as long as they are winning i'm good with the ignorance. |
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Mini Mamba Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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hype wrote: | MickMgl wrote: | TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | There are still a ton of NBA fans, mostly of other teams, who seem to think LeBron James has nobody here to help him win a title. All that means is they haven't been paying attention. |
PJ Carlesimo was expressing the same opinion. He said he thinks the Cavs w/o Lebron could beat the Lakers w/o Lebron. Apparently unaware that the Lakers beat the Cavs last year WITH Lebron. |
It is def. real. I got in an argument with these 5 guys and they all told me the lakers were pure "hot garbage" after lebron and he is here strictly as an early retirement for his family and to get his after basketball roots started. I mentioned how our young core is beastly and they just told me I was a blind homer so at that point I just laughed it off and dropped it, there was no winning until they see it in person once the season starts.
Blows my mind how an actual basketball mind can think it though. I am sure most of those people will give all the credit to Lebron for the reason they are playing so well but as long as they are winning i'm good with the ignorance. |
I think people disrespect and undervalue our young core because they aren't household names. But they will be this season playing with LeBron. |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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justsomelakerfan wrote: | justsomelakerfan wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | OKC is really going to regret passing on Hart for Ferguson. |
Yeah. Raw clay potential vs. actual realized potential. I take Hart over Ferguson too. We need more polished pieces. |
I understand this perspective, but I would have really liked a true upside gamble from the Lakers last night. Need a shot at a star or serious offensive contributor badly and would take a 19 year old with tools and potential over a solid 22 year old. I think that's what they were going for with Bryant and appreciate it. |
How dare you |
I was actually right about something. _________________ Under New Management |
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matrixskillz Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Our starting shooting guard. He's really the perfect fit next to Lebron. _________________ We only celebrate championships.
"I GOT WHEATIES!" |
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splashmtn Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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LakerLogic wrote: | I think Hart's ceiling is pretty high. Damn. Any reason he can't be like Jimmy Butler? | not a bad comp. if he works that hard maybe. jimmy was more athletic, but jimmy also couldnt shoot until recently. hart can already shoot. so that makes up for the athletics. |
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Lucky_Shot Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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matrixskillz wrote: | Our starting shooting guard. He's really the perfect fit next to Lebron. |
Honestly between him and KCP its pretty close.
It's going to be a dog fight for minutes between Hart Ball KCP and Rondo; I'm excited to see it.
Dont know if anyone here plays pai gai poker but it feels like we have a strong low and high hand. |
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MagicMamba88 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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splashmtn wrote: | LakerLogic wrote: | I think Hart's ceiling is pretty high. Damn. Any reason he can't be like Jimmy Butler? | not a bad comp. if he works that hard maybe. jimmy was more athletic, but jimmy also couldnt shoot until recently. hart can already shoot. so that makes up for the athletics. |
not sure anyone has said Wesley Matthews before his injury with the Blazers.
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noahp45 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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IPK wrote: | noahp45 wrote: | I called it!
I told everyone Hart would be a beast, what do I win? |
Half a cookie. |
That's it?
Who gets the other half? |
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noahp45 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Car54 wrote: | ch3cky0selff00 wrote: | Josh Hart, Ingram, and Kuzma are gonna have so many open looks and lanes to the basket from the attention LeBron pulls to him it's not even gonna be funny.
Dare I say that LeBron will probably be able to coast the majority of the season because he won't be required to do *all* of the ball handling.
Pelinka and Magic have done a tremendous job building this team. People keep talking about the whole shooting thing but I think they actually have great shooters in Kuzma, Hart, KCP, Svi, Ingram and even Wagner.
Not only that but that have playmakers ALL over the place.
LeBron's workload isn't going to be as heavy as it's been in previous years and that was all due (it worked, though) to the teams being filled with specialists who couldn't do much else than shoot with the exception of maybe Kyrie. |
I'm still not a fan of lance because I heard hes a bad defender now |
Who said he was a bad defender?
He guarded Bron 3 months ago in the playoffs. LeBron asked the Lakers to put him on the team. If he was a garbage defender he wouldn't Have got a invite. |
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audioaxes Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Car54 wrote: | LandsbergerRules wrote: | I think by the end of the year, Hart is going to take KCP's spot in the starting lineup. They'll both get a good amount of minutes, though. We're going to need all the 3 pt shooting that they can give. |
You think its gonna take that long? I think training camp unless LA Bron pushes for KCP in the starting lineup |
Josh Hart was already better than KCP at the close of last season _________________ (bleep) Kawhi |
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lakez34 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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Hart was a welcome surprise last year and the fact his game continues to grow and his confidence is through the roof, his ceiling is way up there. The butler comparison is good. Looking forward to seeing him keep growing,, and really don't want to see him somehow get shipped away. |
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OCWA Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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MickMgl wrote: | TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | There are still a ton of NBA fans, mostly of other teams, who seem to think LeBron James has nobody here to help him win a title. All that means is they haven't been paying attention. |
PJ Carlesimo was expressing the same opinion. He said he thinks the Cavs w/o Lebron could beat the Lakers w/o Lebron. Apparently unaware that the Lakers beat the Cavs last year WITH Lebron. |
Nance and Clarkson going to be tired playing with both teams and against themselves.
Most serious basketball people I have heard discuss the same topic say the Lakers talent around Bron is better than the Cavs talent around Bron last year. I was surprised Carlesimo was so adamant that the Cavs were better than the Lakers, but many of the TV analysts lack deep knowledge of each team and just give Cliff Notes versions of analysis. |
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ShowtimeReturns Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:13 am Post subject: |
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audioaxes wrote: | Car54 wrote: | LandsbergerRules wrote: | I think by the end of the year, Hart is going to take KCP's spot in the starting lineup. They'll both get a good amount of minutes, though. We're going to need all the 3 pt shooting that they can give. |
You think its gonna take that long? I think training camp unless LA Bron pushes for KCP in the starting lineup |
Josh Hart was already better than KCP at the close of last season |
I was actually surprised they gave KCP 12 mill when they already have a better KCP in Hart who has gotten even better, anyway its a good problem to have it just makes the team even deeper with rotations and possible injuries. |
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ingle Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:28 am Post subject: |
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So after one summer league the consensus on Hart has gone from Fisher to Jimmy Butler.
I think he'll be somewhere in the middle, but definitely closer to the Butler end than the Fisher end. Josh is a professional and a damn good player which was evident from his rookie season why was why the Fisher comparisons were so cringe. |
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ingle Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:30 am Post subject: |
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ShowtimeReturns wrote: | audioaxes wrote: | Car54 wrote: | LandsbergerRules wrote: | I think by the end of the year, Hart is going to take KCP's spot in the starting lineup. They'll both get a good amount of minutes, though. We're going to need all the 3 pt shooting that they can give. |
You think its gonna take that long? I think training camp unless LA Bron pushes for KCP in the starting lineup |
Josh Hart was already better than KCP at the close of last season |
I was actually surprised they gave KCP 12 mill when they already have a better KCP in Hart who has gotten even better, anyway its a good problem to have it just makes the team even deeper with rotations and possible injuries. |
KCP was part of the Lebron package, but there's worse ways to spend $12m for a season on a young athletic 3 point shooter who also defends.
Depth is always a luxury you want to have in a long season like the NBA's, it is an advantage we have 2 SGs who can play starter minutes in KCP and Hart. |
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TooMuchMajicBuss Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:14 am Post subject: |
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Mini Mamba wrote: | hype wrote: | MickMgl wrote: | TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | There are still a ton of NBA fans, mostly of other teams, who seem to think LeBron James has nobody here to help him win a title. All that means is they haven't been paying attention. |
PJ Carlesimo was expressing the same opinion. He said he thinks the Cavs w/o Lebron could beat the Lakers w/o Lebron. Apparently unaware that the Lakers beat the Cavs last year WITH Lebron. |
It is def. real. I got in an argument with these 5 guys and they all told me the lakers were pure "hot garbage" after lebron and he is here strictly as an early retirement for his family and to get his after basketball roots started. I mentioned how our young core is beastly and they just told me I was a blind homer so at that point I just laughed it off and dropped it, there was no winning until they see it in person once the season starts.
Blows my mind how an actual basketball mind can think it though. I am sure most of those people will give all the credit to Lebron for the reason they are playing so well but as long as they are winning i'm good with the ignorance. |
I think people disrespect and undervalue our young core because they aren't household names. But they will be this season playing with LeBron. |
I heard that garbage from Carlisimo too. Zero research, lazy analysis. I've had my share of arguments with fans of other teams too. It's apparently blind homerism to think we beat Cleveland with LeBron on their team last year, or took the almighty Golden State to overtime twice, or that we beat Boston and beat OKC a couple times last year, or played .600+ ball for a stretch last season before Ingram went down.
So looking forward to this season. |
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