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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:25 pm    Post subject:

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Why does Luke keep playing KCP instead of Hart.

KCP is missing wide open 3s that even I would make consistently if I was paid to play basketball.

Wtf why is he out there?

Does he even practice and his decision making is questionable.
And his defense about average.

KCP is one the worst player getting heavy minutes in the rotations


Yet his TS% is actually higher than two starters we currently have.

I think his decision making is fairly decent for his role, tbh. He's supposed to shoot off screens; not do a lot of dribbling.


He is shooting wide open shots, and not making enough of them.
He is basically useless when he is not making shots


I disagree with that take. He's third on the team in steals, third in blocks, and second in defensive win shares while being fifth in minutes. Link: https://on.nba.com/2FSmkd6

Hart's been invaluable starting and finishing fast breaks for us. Hardly what I'd consider useless.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:07 pm    Post subject:

Jack's Room wrote:
Nonamehero wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
Nonamehero wrote:
Why does Luke keep playing KCP instead of Hart.

KCP is missing wide open 3s that even I would make consistently if I was paid to play basketball.

Wtf why is he out there?

Does he even practice and his decision making is questionable.
And his defense about average.

KCP is one the worst player getting heavy minutes in the rotations


Yet his TS% is actually higher than two starters we currently have.

I think his decision making is fairly decent for his role, tbh. He's supposed to shoot off screens; not do a lot of dribbling.


He is shooting wide open shots, and not making enough of them.
He is basically useless when he is not making shots


I disagree with that take. He's third on the team in steals, third in blocks, and second in defensive win shares while being fifth in minutes. Link: https://on.nba.com/2FSmkd6

Hart's been invaluable starting and finishing fast breaks for us. Hardly what I'd consider useless.

I think his hot take was referring to KCP, not Hart. It was still a poor hot take, especially given KCPs vast improvement in November.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:10 pm    Post subject:

Hart today - 6 points, zero rebounds, +32 +/-. Talk about being in the right place at the right time today.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:31 pm    Post subject:

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Hart today - 6 points, zero rebounds, +32 +/-. Talk about being in the right place at the right time today.


He must have some incredible luck then, because his plus minus on the season leads the team too.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:45 pm    Post subject:

LuciusAllen wrote:
Jack's Room wrote:
Nonamehero wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
Nonamehero wrote:
Why does Luke keep playing KCP instead of Hart.

KCP is missing wide open 3s that even I would make consistently if I was paid to play basketball.

Wtf why is he out there?

Does he even practice and his decision making is questionable.
And his defense about average.

KCP is one the worst player getting heavy minutes in the rotations


Yet his TS% is actually higher than two starters we currently have.

I think his decision making is fairly decent for his role, tbh. He's supposed to shoot off screens; not do a lot of dribbling.


He is shooting wide open shots, and not making enough of them.
He is basically useless when he is not making shots


I disagree with that take. He's third on the team in steals, third in blocks, and second in defensive win shares while being fifth in minutes. Link: https://on.nba.com/2FSmkd6

Hart's been invaluable starting and finishing fast breaks for us. Hardly what I'd consider useless.

I think his hot take was referring to KCP, not Hart. It was still a poor hot take, especially given KCPs vast improvement in November.
I agree KCP is playing much better now than he was a month ago. I'd still take Hart over KCP if I had to choose one or the other, but I like to see them both play well. Last time I saw them in tandem I thought they played pretty well together.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:44 am    Post subject:

TooMuchMajicBuss wrote:
LuciusAllen wrote:
Jack's Room wrote:
Nonamehero wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
Nonamehero wrote:
Why does Luke keep playing KCP instead of Hart.

KCP is missing wide open 3s that even I would make consistently if I was paid to play basketball.

Wtf why is he out there?

Does he even practice and his decision making is questionable.
And his defense about average.

KCP is one the worst player getting heavy minutes in the rotations


Yet his TS% is actually higher than two starters we currently have.

I think his decision making is fairly decent for his role, tbh. He's supposed to shoot off screens; not do a lot of dribbling.


He is shooting wide open shots, and not making enough of them.
He is basically useless when he is not making shots


I disagree with that take. He's third on the team in steals, third in blocks, and second in defensive win shares while being fifth in minutes. Link: https://on.nba.com/2FSmkd6

Hart's been invaluable starting and finishing fast breaks for us. Hardly what I'd consider useless.

I think his hot take was referring to KCP, not Hart. It was still a poor hot take, especially given KCPs vast improvement in November.
I agree KCP is playing much better now than he was a month ago. I'd still take Hart over KCP if I had to choose one or the other, but I like to see them both play well. Last time I saw them in tandem I thought they played pretty well together.


KCP is the new Derek Fisher without the clutch genes.

When they play in tandem, you will see KCP being left wide open in the 3 point land and Hart being tightly guarded.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:00 am    Post subject:

^ There is nothing at all similar between Derek Fisher and KCP. Might as well be Svi and Shaq.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:02 am    Post subject:

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^ There is nothing at all similar between Derek Fisher and KCP. Might as well be Svi and Shaq.


You don't recall all the off-ball breakaway steals by Fish in his prime? And the Fish dunks?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:54 am    Post subject:

24 MPG isn't enough, not when Ingram is playing 32 and Kuzma 31.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:18 pm    Post subject:

Hart got hosed tonight 2-3 BS phantom fouls
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:19 pm    Post subject:

Hopefully he's the starting pf on Friday if bi can't go
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:29 pm    Post subject:

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Hart got hosed tonight 2-3 BS phantom fouls


And yet he still found a way to come back late and put the dagger in the Spurs.

Those whistles were pure BS. Glad Hart had the last laugh.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:32 pm    Post subject:

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Hopefully he's the starting pf on Friday if bi can't go


I'd like to see Lonzo/Hart/LeBron/Kuz/McGee
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:34 pm    Post subject:

TooMuchMajicBuss wrote:
epak wrote:
Hopefully he's the starting pf on Friday if bi can't go


I'd like to see Lonzo/Hart/LeBron/Kuz/McGee


Me too.
Replace McGee with Tyson and check out the net rating. You'll be blown away.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:34 pm    Post subject:

Lonzo/Hart/LeBron/Kuz/McGee
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:39 pm    Post subject:

Now Hart's becoming un-tradeable. We're in desperate need of 3-pt shooting and he's by far our best 3-pt shooter at 39.6%. Lonzo and BI are at an embarrassing 32% while Kuzma is chilling at 30%.

I know Lebron carried the team hard tonite but it was Hart's 3's down the stretch that helped the Lakers pull away. I would feel bad if we gave up Hart in a trade for AD because it would take away from what needed most right now.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:06 pm    Post subject:

I know why this guy is my favorite Laker at the moment. This guy doesn't know what fear is. Lets go!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:14 pm    Post subject:

HART IS A GOD
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:15 pm    Post subject:

YSong wrote:
Hart got hosed tonight 2-3 BS phantom fouls


I definitely agree!!!The fact that he had enough composure to knock down those clutch 3s in the 4th after those BS calls, shows alot about his character
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:41 pm    Post subject:

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I know why this guy is my favorite Laker at the moment. This guy doesn't know what fear is. Lets go!!!


Fear is the mind killer
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:12 am    Post subject:

This guy man...he struggled all game and you can see when he got that fourth foul went and kicked the garbage bin in the hallway.

Even through that, played in the fourth and came through for us. Hart is amazing.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:41 am    Post subject:

Should be a good test case going forward, how much they can rely on hart starting at SG.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:45 am    Post subject:

Time to give him 150 mil $ ten years contract. Do it Mitch!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:47 am    Post subject:

I'd like your opinion on the first foul called on Hart (offensive foul with the elbow), Mark Jackson kept saying it was the right call, but for me it wasn't an offensive foul at all (think he should have had the and 1), Jackson made the parallel with an offensive foul using the knee, but I don't think it was the same at all, do you know if that was the right call according to the rules ?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:11 pm    Post subject:

lmao Windhorst was praising this dude for his clutch shots in the 4th but still called him Jason Hart, twice.
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