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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:56 pm    Post subject:

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Hopefully he's the starting pf on Friday if bi can't go


I'd like to see Lonzo/Hart/LeBron/Kuz/McGee


Me too.
Replace McGee with Tyson and check out the net rating. You'll be blown away.


I see your sig - good point.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:23 pm    Post subject:

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I'd like your opinion on the first foul called on Hart (offensive foul with the elbow), Mark Jackson kept saying it was the right call, but for me it wasn't an offensive foul at all (think he should have had the and 1), Jackson made the parallel with an offensive foul using the knee, but I don't think it was the same at all, do you know if that was the right call according to the rules ?

I was pissed. It should have been a +1 imo. How's Hart supposed to get to the rim? Is a Tomahawk dunk now illegal too? In a league where Harden can reach out and elbow anyone he wants on the way to the rim, and it's instant +1??

NO WAY is Mark Jackson's analogy anywhere close. That one had me yelling profanities.

Talk about satisfaction though - Hart destroying the betting line with his late daggers and the Laker offensive explosion to close last night's game. I'm sure someone got burned a lot more badly last night than I was watching the 3-whistle-in-10-second ref's bs officiating.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:42 pm    Post subject:

The playoffs are a different beast, but I'll bet on this young dude shining in the big moments when it counts.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:09 pm    Post subject:

Hart is basically our best 3pt shooter. Luke needs to do more to exploit that.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:49 pm    Post subject:

TooMuchMajicBuss wrote:
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I'd like your opinion on the first foul called on Hart (offensive foul with the elbow), Mark Jackson kept saying it was the right call, but for me it wasn't an offensive foul at all (think he should have had the and 1), Jackson made the parallel with an offensive foul using the knee, but I don't think it was the same at all, do you know if that was the right call according to the rules ?

I was pissed. It should have been a +1 imo. How's Hart supposed to get to the rim? Is a Tomahawk dunk now illegal too? In a league where Harden can reach out and elbow anyone he wants on the way to the rim, and it's instant +1??

NO WAY is Mark Jackson's analogy anywhere close. That one had me yelling profanities.

Talk about satisfaction though - Hart destroying the betting line with his late daggers and the Laker offensive explosion to close last night's game. I'm sure someone got burned a lot more badly last night than I was watching the 3-whistle-in-10-second ref's bs officiating.


Yeah, bad call. To me it looked like Hart was shielding the ball from being blocked or stripped. Not leading with the elbow per se.

If they had called it like that the first time, I’d get why they called it even if I disagreed with it. But for them to check it on review and reverse their own call seemed arbitrary to me.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:57 pm    Post subject:

Lets see how well Hart does starting at SG now with Ingram out -- unless they are going to go with KCP starting? I think we would rather have KCP off the bench, as that seems to be his better scoring role.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:50 pm    Post subject:

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Lets see how well Hart does starting at SG now with Ingram out -- unless they are going to go with KCP starting? I think we would rather have KCP off the bench, as that seems to be his better scoring role.


Josh Hart seems to struggle against perimeter scorers like DeRozan, he needs to get better on that end for sure. KCP hasn’t faired much better either. Svi has been better than both those guys in the first half.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:19 pm    Post subject:

Not a good game today. Those missed 3s hurt us, and he got cooked by Derozan to start the game. At least Luke finally seemed tor realize he can’t check Derozan at all and stuck him on Gay instead while KUZ took Derozan.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:59 pm    Post subject:

Tough night for Joshy on both ends. Hope he puts some work in on outside D.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:12 pm    Post subject:

0 from 5 from 3 tonight. That really hurt.

A lot.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:54 pm    Post subject:

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0 from 5 from 3 tonight. That really hurt.

A lot.


A lot!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:05 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
TooMuchMajicBuss wrote:
epak wrote:
Hopefully he's the starting pf on Friday if bi can't go


I'd like to see Lonzo/Hart/LeBron/Kuz/McGee


Me too.
Replace McGee with Tyson and check out the net rating. You'll be blown away.


blown away by a 26 minute sample size lmfao
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:08 pm    Post subject:

1ngr4m wrote:
epak wrote:
TooMuchMajicBuss wrote:
epak wrote:
Hopefully he's the starting pf on Friday if bi can't go


I'd like to see Lonzo/Hart/LeBron/Kuz/McGee


Me too.
Replace McGee with Tyson and check out the net rating. You'll be blown away.


blown away by a 26 minute sample size lmfao


From an early season with Tyson being an add-on half way I am.
I understand that you're not, Ingram. Obviously.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:03 pm    Post subject:

Great bounce back half.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:52 pm    Post subject:

Put up a stinker last night and comes back with a vengeance.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:30 pm    Post subject:

Gonna be tough sending him back to the 2nd unit when he plays so well
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:00 pm    Post subject:

Its the bounce back that defines players. It shows what you're made of and Josh is made of the right stuff. On the road no less, really impressive.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:04 pm    Post subject:

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Gonna be tough sending him back to the 2nd unit when he plays so well


Unfortunately, I think Luke benches him when BI comes back
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:50 am    Post subject:

epak wrote:
GOODRICH25 wrote:
Gonna be tough sending him back to the 2nd unit when he plays so well


Unfortunately, I think Luke benches him when BI comes back


I feel it is best for Hart to come off the bench to maximize his play as you are able to put him in match ups where he will not be exposed defensively.

Is it a coincidence he had a good game against Memphis where the SG's were Temple, Seldon and Brooks. Bad game against Spurs with DD going off.

Most teams best scorers are on the wings and if Hart is given extended minutes that will hurt the Lakers overall team defense where he will require help to prevent being exploited.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:45 am    Post subject:

Hot shooting from Josh Hart powers L.A. past Memphis in blowout win

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The Lakers continue to their climb in the standings as they cruise past the Grizzlies.


https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2018/12/8/18132531/la-lakers-vs-memphis-grizzlies-final-score-game-recap-josh-hart-shooting-stats
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:04 am    Post subject:

Wish he had more wingspan, would help him a lot of defense. Oh well.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:05 am    Post subject:

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Wish he had more wingspan, would help him a lot of defense. Oh well.


Has a solid wingspan but a borderline PGs reach ; contesting is tough β€” Derozen put the ball over his head on a Euro last game lolol
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:42 am    Post subject:

Hart is 4th in the league in RPM among shooting guards
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:55 am    Post subject:

LKA wrote:
Hart is 4th in the league in RPM among shooting guards


Kid can play and needs to start.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:29 pm    Post subject:

BigGameHames wrote:
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Hart is 4th in the league in RPM among shooting guards


Kid can play and needs to start.


It’s unfortunate that the best players dont start
They rather force a role player as the 2nd option to LeBron
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