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| tox wrote: | | Can we change this thread title to a more enthusiastic OFFICIAL JOSH HART THREAD |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 1:38 am Post subject: |
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Had a couple of rough offensive games.
Still grinding on D tho
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Hart probably shouldn't be a regular in the rotation yet. His offensive game is way too unpolished, as much as I like his defensive intensity. I don't know that the Lakers have a better option than him (we're pretty thin on guards in general), though.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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I'm torn between Ennis and Hart.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:36 am Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | I'm torn between Ennis and Hart. |
i'm not. since ennis wont shoot that 3 ball. we're not losing anything with hart. we gain defense and size with him. |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:40 am Post subject: |
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Hart is working his way into the league, we have to be patient.
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epak
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| Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| splashmtn wrote: | | epak wrote: | | I'm torn between Ennis and Hart. |
i'm not. since ennis wont shoot that 3 ball. we're not losing anything with hart. we gain defense and size with him. |
It would be nice if Josh makes at least one shot in November.
I dont care if it's a layup. Just one basket would be nice.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | splashmtn wrote: | | epak wrote: | | I'm torn between Ennis and Hart. |
i'm not. since ennis wont shoot that 3 ball. we're not losing anything with hart. we gain defense and size with him. |
It would be nice if Josh makes at least one shot in November.
I dont care if it's a layup. Just one basket would be nice. |
He was a good shooter in college. I guess just like with Ball and Ingram, there is a pretty big adjustment that has to be made in the NBA.
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| We should have kept David Nwaba. |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 8:41 am Post subject: |
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I think Hart is a talented player, and Luke and 2nd unit should put some effort into getting him going offensively. It would really open up the 2nd unit if he can get his confidence back on offense.
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He hasn’t hit a shot in forever but at least he can defend and not turn it over.
Luke is out of his mind giving brewer all these minutes. |
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| Should send him down to the Dleague for a few games. Still plays tough D but totally lost on the offensive end. |
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| Dr. Funkbot wrote: | | epak wrote: | | splashmtn wrote: | | epak wrote: | | I'm torn between Ennis and Hart. |
i'm not. since ennis wont shoot that 3 ball. we're not losing anything with hart. we gain defense and size with him. |
It would be nice if Josh makes at least one shot in November.
I dont care if it's a layup. Just one basket would be nice. |
He was a good shooter in college. I guess just like with Ball and Ingram, there is a pretty big adjustment that has to be made in the NBA. |
Yea, most rookies don't shoot as well as you think they would. Hart's form has been had some real issues though.. There was concern about him shooting at this level from DraftExpress |
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| LakerFan1972 wrote: | | Should send him down to the Dleague for a few games. Still plays tough D but totally lost on the offensive end. |
It definitely would not hurt. He could benefit greatly from the experience.
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| Dr. Funkbot wrote: | | epak wrote: | | splashmtn wrote: | | epak wrote: | | I'm torn between Ennis and Hart. |
i'm not. since ennis wont shoot that 3 ball. we're not losing anything with hart. we gain defense and size with him. |
It would be nice if Josh makes at least one shot in November.
I dont care if it's a layup. Just one basket would be nice. |
He was a good shooter in college. I guess just like with Ball and Ingram, there is a pretty big adjustment that has to be made in the NBA. |
There's that adjustment to the actual ball. the nba ball feels totally different than the ncaa balls. and it matters to guys that are not money shooters or guys that dont have Kawhi sized hands. Obviously the defenders are longer. But we have guys blowing layups and missing wide open jumpers. that tells me its mental and its fatigue from all those games so close to one another and all that flying around. it starts to get to a player, especially the young ones that have never had the experienced. |
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| splashmtn wrote: | | Dr. Funkbot wrote: | | epak wrote: | | splashmtn wrote: | | epak wrote: | | I'm torn between Ennis and Hart. |
i'm not. since ennis wont shoot that 3 ball. we're not losing anything with hart. we gain defense and size with him. |
It would be nice if Josh makes at least one shot in November.
I dont care if it's a layup. Just one basket would be nice. |
He was a good shooter in college. I guess just like with Ball and Ingram, there is a pretty big adjustment that has to be made in the NBA. |
There's that adjustment to the actual ball. the nba ball feels totally different than the ncaa balls. and it matters to guys that are not money shooters or guys that dont have Kawhi sized hands. Obviously the defenders are longer. But we have guys blowing layups and missing wide open jumpers. that tells me its mental and its fatigue from all those games so close to one another and all that flying around. it starts to get to a player, especially the young ones that have never had the experienced. |
Oh yeah the team has been blowing a lot of easy shots on this trip as a whole, from Lopez down to KCP and Ball.
Agreed that with more experience with Luke's offense and more time on the floor together their collective fg% is bound to improve.
I am so happy that at least we have a very good defensive foundation to build upon. That is harder to achieve with a young team than getting them amped up on the offensive side in my opinion.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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Lost on the offensive end?
Dude is adjusting from #1 option on an elite NCAA team to a #4 or #5 guy on a bad team. This just boils down to him boxing his offensive skill set into something narrow so that he can fit in his respective lineups.
He's got better court vision than Jordan Clarkson, no exaggeration. It's just not his role on the team because he's not considered a pure PG and he's still a rookie.
But dude was an elite tertiary NCAA playmaker. Lost? Adjusting. This isn't like Brewer who just forces everything at the hoop. Hart is overthinking.
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| Mike@LG wrote: | Lost on the offensive end?
Dude is adjusting from #1 option on an elite NCAA team to a #4 or #5 guy on a bad team. This just boils down to him boxing his offensive skill set into something narrow so that he can fit in his respective lineups.
He's got better court vision than Jordan Clarkson, no exaggeration. It's just not his role on the team because he's not considered a pure PG and he's still a rookie.
But dude was an elite tertiary NCAA playmaker. Lost? Adjusting. This isn't like Brewer who just forces everything at the hoop. Hart is overthinking. |
I personally would like to see Luke take the ball out of Clarkson Hands and let Hart be the distributor.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Mike@LG wrote: | Lost on the offensive end?
Dude is adjusting from #1 option on an elite NCAA team to a #4 or #5 guy on a bad team. This just boils down to him boxing his offensive skill set into something narrow so that he can fit in his respective lineups.
He's got better court vision than Jordan Clarkson, no exaggeration. It's just not his role on the team because he's not considered a pure PG and he's still a rookie.
But dude was an elite tertiary NCAA playmaker. Lost? Adjusting. This isn't like Brewer who just forces everything at the hoop. Hart is overthinking. |
I am not disagreeing with you, but I do not ever recall him distributing or showing passing skills @ 'Nova. Did I just miss it? Probably only watched 25% of his games his senior year.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:40 am Post subject: |
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Congratulations. Finally made a shot!!!
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Laker7 wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | Lost on the offensive end?
Dude is adjusting from #1 option on an elite NCAA team to a #4 or #5 guy on a bad team. This just boils down to him boxing his offensive skill set into something narrow so that he can fit in his respective lineups.
He's got better court vision than Jordan Clarkson, no exaggeration. It's just not his role on the team because he's not considered a pure PG and he's still a rookie.
But dude was an elite tertiary NCAA playmaker. Lost? Adjusting. This isn't like Brewer who just forces everything at the hoop. Hart is overthinking. |
I personally would like to see Luke take the ball out of Clarkson Hands and let Hart be the distributor. |
Same.
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| adkindo wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | Lost on the offensive end?
Dude is adjusting from #1 option on an elite NCAA team to a #4 or #5 guy on a bad team. This just boils down to him boxing his offensive skill set into something narrow so that he can fit in his respective lineups.
He's got better court vision than Jordan Clarkson, no exaggeration. It's just not his role on the team because he's not considered a pure PG and he's still a rookie.
But dude was an elite tertiary NCAA playmaker. Lost? Adjusting. This isn't like Brewer who just forces everything at the hoop. Hart is overthinking. |
I am not disagreeing with you, but I do not ever recall him distributing or showing passing skills @ 'Nova. Did I just miss it? Probably only watched 25% of his games his senior year. |
He was the primary slasher. Villanova had plenty of shooters. Mikal Bridges shot 70% 2pt and well over 40% 3pt on just C&S.
Near 20% assist rate.
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I don't think Hart has earned that role. He's clearly still in his head. He needs to get down the catch and shoot first, and then move to play maker. Right now, he's too nervous with the ball to be relied on there. Eventually, I see the play making ability too... just not yet.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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^I just see a guy who hesitates because he has to retract so much of his game from his Villanova years.
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | ^I just see a guy who hesitates because he has to retract so much of his game from his Villanova years. |
Why does he have to retract it?
It's a shame he got hurt in summer league.
Maybe he could have shown the goods you're speaking about.
Makes me wonder if he plays differently in practice or the g league
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