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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:59 am    Post subject:

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Oops, I misread your statement regarding Jules, Yinoma. Are they a great fit? I dunno. Brook can space the floor, but Randle can't post-up or roll.


The problem for Jules b/c of the issues you noted, was that Moz's or Hibbert's man would often drop to contest Jules at the rim.

With Brook, you aren't leaving him open for a jumper, period.
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-JC out for $0/Deng stretched = 57.6m in 2018 cap space
-Same as above and Jules renounced/traded for $0 = 69.9m in 2018 cap space

2 of 4 of these players will be Lakers in 2018 (LBJ/PG13/WB/Boogie)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:01 am    Post subject:

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If both him and Randle play well, both would take low $ for 1 year for a longer bigger $ next year, can we sign both after 2 max of we have to pick one of them?


Not understanding the question.

Theoretically possible that Jules takes the QO, and Brook takes the room exception (though not likely). Then yes, we would have full Bird rights to re-sign them in 2019 as an over-the-cap team. We'd also have the full MLE in 2019 to get a quality rotation player too. 2019 is the year i have penciled in as the year we would be contending for a title. Warriors would have to start worrying about extending Klay, and the 5 years of making the Finals may take its physical and mental toll.


that answers it. we do have the space after stretchung Deng/trading JC and signing 2 max for Jules' QO and Brook room exception


Let's say JC is traded out, and Deng is gone too (costly 2 future 1sts).

We could have around 68m in cap space.

We need around 65m or so for both LBJ/PG13 to get full max.

Jules QO is more than 3m, so it would require a slight cut from both players (or further trades).

Brook would then take the room exception. (not trying to debate whether he does/does not take it, just showing the functionality of it).
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-JC out for $0/Deng stretched = 57.6m in 2018 cap space
-Same as above and Jules renounced/traded for $0 = 69.9m in 2018 cap space

2 of 4 of these players will be Lakers in 2018 (LBJ/PG13/WB/Boogie)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:04 am    Post subject:

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Oops, I misread your statement regarding Jules, Yinoma. Are they a great fit? I dunno. Brook can space the floor, but Randle can't post-up or roll.


The problem for Jules b/c of the issues you noted, was that Moz's or Hibbert's man would often drop to contest Jules at the rim.

With Brook, you aren't leaving him open for a jumper, period.


So he has more to room to work. The inverse is that if you put Brook in the post, which I think they should quite a bit (he's the best scorer on the team), Randle's not a threat to make open shots so they can collapse on Brook. Now if you put Kuzma out there...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:09 am    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
Oops, I misread your statement regarding Jules, Yinoma. Are they a great fit? I dunno. Brook can space the floor, but Randle can't post-up or roll.


The problem for Jules b/c of the issues you noted, was that Moz's or Hibbert's man would often drop to contest Jules at the rim.

With Brook, you aren't leaving him open for a jumper, period.


So he has more to room to work. The inverse is that if you put Brook in the post, which I think they should quite a bit (he's the best scorer on the team), Randle's not a threat to make open shots so they can collapse on Brook.


I think if Brook/Jules are together, Brook is playing out.

If they want Brook inside, I could see Kuz playing PF to stretch the floor.

And so on.
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-JC out for $0/Deng stretched = 57.6m in 2018 cap space
-Same as above and Jules renounced/traded for $0 = 69.9m in 2018 cap space

2 of 4 of these players will be Lakers in 2018 (LBJ/PG13/WB/Boogie)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:23 am    Post subject:

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greenfrog wrote:
Oops, I misread your statement regarding Jules, Yinoma. Are they a great fit? I dunno. Brook can space the floor, but Randle can't post-up or roll.


The problem for Jules b/c of the issues you noted, was that Moz's or Hibbert's man would often drop to contest Jules at the rim.

With Brook, you aren't leaving him open for a jumper, period.


So he has more to room to work. The inverse is that if you put Brook in the post, which I think they should quite a bit (he's the best scorer on the team), Randle's not a threat to make open shots so they can collapse on Brook.


I think if Brook/Jules are together, Brook is playing out.

If they want Brook inside, I could see Kuz playing PF to stretch the floor.

And so on.


Agreed. I just think the pairing of Lonzo and Brook is too dynamic to force him mainly into an outside spot-up shooting role, nor has Randle shown he's good enough inside to warrant it.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:25 am    Post subject:

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greenfrog wrote:
Oops, I misread your statement regarding Jules, Yinoma. Are they a great fit? I dunno. Brook can space the floor, but Randle can't post-up or roll.


The problem for Jules b/c of the issues you noted, was that Moz's or Hibbert's man would often drop to contest Jules at the rim.

With Brook, you aren't leaving him open for a jumper, period.


So he has more to room to work. The inverse is that if you put Brook in the post, which I think they should quite a bit (he's the best scorer on the team), Randle's not a threat to make open shots so they can collapse on Brook.


I think if Brook/Jules are together, Brook is playing out.

If they want Brook inside, I could see Kuz playing PF to stretch the floor.

And so on.


Agreed. I just think the pairing of Lonzo and Brook is too dynamic to force him mainly into an outside spot-up shooting role, nor has Randle shown he's good enough inside to warrant it.


But the point is Brook is versatile enough, whereas Moz/Hibbert left a lot to be desired on offense. Was like adding fuel to Jules' weakness fire.
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-JC out for $0/Deng stretched = 57.6m in 2018 cap space
-Same as above and Jules renounced/traded for $0 = 69.9m in 2018 cap space

2 of 4 of these players will be Lakers in 2018 (LBJ/PG13/WB/Boogie)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:58 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
Oops, I misread your statement regarding Jules, Yinoma. Are they a great fit? I dunno. Brook can space the floor, but Randle can't post-up or roll.


The problem for Jules b/c of the issues you noted, was that Moz's or Hibbert's man would often drop to contest Jules at the rim.

With Brook, you aren't leaving him open for a jumper, period.


So he has more to room to work. The inverse is that if you put Brook in the post, which I think they should quite a bit (he's the best scorer on the team), Randle's not a threat to make open shots so they can collapse on Brook.


I think if Brook/Jules are together, Brook is playing out.

If they want Brook inside, I could see Kuz playing PF to stretch the floor.

And so on.


Agreed. I just think the pairing of Lonzo and Brook is too dynamic to force him mainly into an outside spot-up shooting role, nor has Randle shown he's good enough inside to warrant it.


But the point is Brook is versatile enough, whereas Moz/Hibbert left a lot to be desired on offense. Was like adding fuel to Jules' weakness fire.


It's good for him. I agree.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:55 pm    Post subject:

51st ranked on BSPN crap ranking.
Highest ranked Laker?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:52 am    Post subject:

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51st ranked on BSPN crap ranking.
Highest ranked Laker?


How many Centers ahead of him? AD, Cousin, KAT, Pau, DeAndre, Jokic, Nurkic, ?Embiid
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:00 am    Post subject:

The 3 players I'm most looking forward to this season on the Lakers:

1. Lonzo
2. Ingram
3. Brook.

Brook is a really good player. Have been watching him on the Nets for a long time.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:28 pm    Post subject:

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Bogut also gives the Lakers insurance against the health of Lopez. Lopez, 29, has been remarkably durable in recent years, appearing in at least 72 games four out of the last five seasons. However, he has dealt with back issues this summer that could cause him to miss part of the preseason.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:05 am    Post subject:

has he had back problems before?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:12 am    Post subject:

Vlade part II?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:46 pm    Post subject:

Ugh. Back issues for Brook is not something I wanted to hear. Hopefully they're minor. It would suck to still suffer the injury bug in a year where we lose our pick no matter what.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:48 pm    Post subject:

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Bogut also gives the Lakers insurance against the health of Lopez. Lopez, 29, has been remarkably durable in recent years, appearing in at least 72 games four out of the last five seasons. However, he has dealt with back issues this summer that could cause him to miss part of the preseason.


Just FWIW, most of the recent vids of Laker players working out included Lopez, he's been shooting in work out videos, that's far from a guy with back issues, seems like if Oram is right then it must be really minor cause Brook has been going full boar with the players.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:21 pm    Post subject:

Brook Lopez could miss preseason games

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Los Angeles Lakers Rumors: Newly acquired center Brook Lopez may miss some preseason games with a recurring back injury.


https://lakeshowlife.com/2017/09/19/lakers-rumors-brook-lopez-miss-preseason-games/
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:59 pm    Post subject:

Please no... for our Lakers and my fantasy team.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:05 pm    Post subject:

Like I mentioned, Lopez has been going full press during work outs it seems like the issue is minor or else he would have sat out during work out sessions.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:19 pm    Post subject:

Miss some preseason games?!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:25 pm    Post subject:

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Bogut also gives the Lakers insurance against the health of Lopez. Lopez, 29, has been remarkably durable in recent years, appearing in at least 72 games four out of the last five seasons. However, he has dealt with back issues this summer that could cause him to miss part of the preseason.


Ah, Bogut. That classic insurance policy against injury.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:04 pm    Post subject:

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Brook Lopez could miss preseason games

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Los Angeles Lakers Rumors: Newly acquired center Brook Lopez may miss some preseason games with a recurring back injury.


https://lakeshowlife.com/2017/09/19/lakers-rumors-brook-lopez-miss-preseason-games/


Thats just him regurgitating the assumption Oram made.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:14 am    Post subject:

Popcorn Machine: Special Guest Brook Lopez


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Brook Lopez has dreamed of playing for the Lakers since his childhood of watching Magic Johnson lead Showtime. The teamís new center joined The Popcorn Machine to talk about joining the purple and gold, elevating his game over the offseason and playing with Lonzo Ball.



http://www.nba.com/lakers/news/170919-popcorn-machine-brook-lopez/
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