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Chase.button07 Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Still stretching. |
wanna hear traded. send him honestly _________________ Now Playing: The Zo Show @Staples |
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Laker4lifer4real Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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He's our add on piece to trading Randle, but only if we feel we can get 3 max players, and arent gonna sign Randle. Randle at 16, 9, 4 might entice a team to take Dengs salary dump. But we'd need to know we could get Lebron/George/Cousins to pair with Lonzo and Ingram. Huge risk. But Kuzma might make Randle expendable with his 3 and D play. |
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bballchinaski Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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deng status is unknown. hes in a tough situation but showed up in terrible shape last season. needs to be a lot better |
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Megaton Retired Number
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Chase.button07 Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Megaton wrote: | Status: pray for medical retirement? |
good 1 megaton _________________ Now Playing: The Zo Show @Staples |
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kevin61 Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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We don't need three max FA's next year. We'd have to give up too many of our young high value guys. Not all of next years FA's are that attractive. I'd be happy with George and possibly LeBron. This young core we have will continue to improve for many years. BI, Lonzo, Randle, Nance, Kuzma,Clarkson, Zubac, Lopez, that's a lot of talent. There's no need to for more than one or two FA's |
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Laker4lifer4real Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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Magic hoping for Lebron and George in tandem. Any way to Stretch Deng to keep Randle if he goes for like 20 and 10 this year and get 2 max? Would Lebron come for Durant salary and leave money on table for Randle? It will be interesting. It may just be George and Randle. |
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Hollywood $winger Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:54 am Post subject: |
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Question for more x's and o's people here : if we can't somehow dump Deng's contract is there any way we can use him in a very limited role as a backup 5 ?
i know thats not a dream defensive situation but in very special situations it could be a defensive nightmare for other teams trying to defend us with him out on the perimeter.
when Lopez sits:
Ball
BI
Deng
Randall
clarkson _________________ aka west-magic-kobe |
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trablos Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:07 am Post subject: |
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Magic needs to put a small research team together to figure out how to dump deng for expiring money. Every time I think about his contract it gets worse and worse. |
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kevin61 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:15 am Post subject: |
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trablos wrote: | Magic needs to put a small research team together to figure out how to dump deng for expiring money. Every time I think about his contract it gets worse and worse. |
The worst signings in the history of the club and worthy of dismissal by those involved. Rarely do you see moves become so clearly bad, so soon as these were. |
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CRoost Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:24 am Post subject: |
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trablos wrote: | Magic needs to put a small research team together to figure out how to dump deng for expiring money. Every time I think about his contract it gets worse and worse. |
Let Clarkson ball out of his freaking mind and Chicago might think they have the next Rose and attach him for Wade. |
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rogers49 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:46 am Post subject: |
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kevin61 wrote: | We don't need three max FA's next year. We'd have to give up too many of our young high value guys. Not all of next years FA's are that attractive. I'd be happy with George and possibly LeBron. This young core we have will continue to improve for many years. BI, Lonzo, Randle, Nance, Kuzma,Clarkson, Zubac, Lopez, that's a lot of talent. There's no need to for more than one or two FA's |
If we want 2 including Lebron, we can't keep Clarkson, Randle AND Lopez.
Maybe neither Zubac and/or Nance if they are needed to move JC and Deng. |
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rogers49 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Hollywood $winger wrote: | Question for more x's and o's people here : if we can't somehow dump Deng's contract is there any way we can use him in a very limited role as a backup 5 ?
i know thats not a dream defensive situation but in very special situations it could be a defensive nightmare for other teams trying to defend us with him out on the perimeter.
when Lopez sits:
Ball
BI
Deng
Randall
clarkson |
Duplicated and already discussed post. |
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rogers49 Star Player
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Laker4lifer4real wrote: | Magic hoping for Lebron and George in tandem. Any way to Stretch Deng to keep Randle if he goes for like 20 and 10 this year and get 2 max? Would Lebron come for Durant salary and leave money on table for Randle? It will be interesting. It may just be George and Randle. |
Randle'll better try to keep his starting gig from Kuzma.
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rogers49 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:56 am Post subject: |
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trablos wrote: | Magic needs to put a small research team together to figure out how to dump deng for expiring money. Every time I think about his contract it gets worse and worse. |
It'll be nothing but short of a miracle.
God will. |
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kevin61 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:29 am Post subject: |
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rogers49 wrote: | kevin61 wrote: | We don't need three max FA's next year. We'd have to give up too many of our young high value guys. Not all of next years FA's are that attractive. I'd be happy with George and possibly LeBron. This young core we have will continue to improve for many years. BI, Lonzo, Randle, Nance, Kuzma,Clarkson, Zubac, Lopez, that's a lot of talent. There's no need to for more than one or two FA's |
If we want 2 including Lebron, we can't keep Clarkson, Randle AND Lopez.
Maybe neither Zubac and/or Nance if they are needed to move JC and Deng. |
Lopez could potentially be one of the two FA spots if LeBron doesn't sign. Look at the list of 2018 FA's, there's only a few worthy of a max slot. Of those, most aren't likely to move and sign. PG is the most viable possibility. Other than that ,things get pretty iffy. |
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lewis Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:34 am Post subject: |
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With the emergence of Kuzma he is useless, but if we want to trade hima nd not cost us a fortune we would need to play him some so his values does not plummet even lower. Hope he is the backup SF even if his best position is PF. no space for him there. |
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lewis Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:36 am Post subject: |
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kevin61 wrote: | rogers49 wrote: | kevin61 wrote: | We don't need three max FA's next year. We'd have to give up too many of our young high value guys. Not all of next years FA's are that attractive. I'd be happy with George and possibly LeBron. This young core we have will continue to improve for many years. BI, Lonzo, Randle, Nance, Kuzma,Clarkson, Zubac, Lopez, that's a lot of talent. There's no need to for more than one or two FA's |
If we want 2 including Lebron, we can't keep Clarkson, Randle AND Lopez.
Maybe neither Zubac and/or Nance if they are needed to move JC and Deng. |
Lopez could potentially be one of the two FA spots if LeBron doesn't sign. Look at the list of 2018 FA's, there's only a few worthy of a max slot. Of those, most aren't likely to move and sign. PG is the most viable possibility. Other than that ,things get pretty iffy. |
If we get just PG13 and resign Lopez, Randle and KCP at the right prices I would be happy (ofcourse if all there show they are worth it..) |
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greenfrog Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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"Dang, he still in the league?" (stolen from Shannon Sharpe) |
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kevin61 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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lewis wrote: | kevin61 wrote: | rogers49 wrote: | kevin61 wrote: | We don't need three max FA's next year. We'd have to give up too many of our young high value guys. Not all of next years FA's are that attractive. I'd be happy with George and possibly LeBron. This young core we have will continue to improve for many years. BI, Lonzo, Randle, Nance, Kuzma,Clarkson, Zubac, Lopez, that's a lot of talent. There's no need to for more than one or two FA's |
If we want 2 including Lebron, we can't keep Clarkson, Randle AND Lopez.
Maybe neither Zubac and/or Nance if they are needed to move JC and Deng. |
Lopez could potentially be one of the two FA spots if LeBron doesn't sign. Look at the list of 2018 FA's, there's only a few worthy of a max slot. Of those, most aren't likely to move and sign. PG is the most viable possibility. Other than that ,things get pretty iffy. |
If we get just PG13 and resign Lopez, Randle and KCP at the right prices I would be happy (ofcourse if all there show they are worth it..) |
Cousins would be another possibility, that's about it realistically. |
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CRoost Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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Deactivate him. Put him on a disable list. Let him buttshift on the bench. Just do whatever necessary that will not cost our young guys minutes. He could mentor and he can babysit. Then next year, see ya later and hopefully he will enjoy that paycheck. |
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TooMuchMajicBuss Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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He's not as impossible to trade next summer as he is this summer.
A little playing time, hopefully showing the league he can still play, would go a long ways towards helping him out the door, though. |
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greenfrog Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | He's not as impossible to trade next summer as he is this summer.
A little playing time, hopefully showing the league he can still play, would go a long ways towards helping him out the door, though. |
He's impossible to trade with zero bad money returning, IMO, unless they do something stupid like attach Kuzma to him. |
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textbook Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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He was good for Miami playing the 4 just a season ago. Get him some time at the 4 this year and he might surprise a lot of people. I know he's entered léame brown status but remember this guy was a multiple all star and good player for Miami. |
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angrypuppy Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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Status: Rigor mortis has set in. |
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