Still Hating Odom?

THE_SHOES · Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:59 am Post subject:

Well,from bounty that is equal to jumping up and down! The rebounds, I have no idea but, man did he set up some guys with some great looks. If the potential by the shooter isn't met when LO gives him the spotlight what can he do about that?

Are you complaining about narrowly missing the 3D bounty?

Don't do it...
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IMO Sasha did alot of what Odom did in the first. Utah doubled Odom in the 2nd, Kobe was bricking, and Kwame was useless besides the occassional O board.

He had 8/2/1 in the 2nd half. So what. Its a decent half. Not his best, but he played within the game and did not make stupid mistakes. Sasha put up 8/6/5 I believe.

I think it is clear some people go out of there way to nitpick Odom's game apart and do not do the same to other Lakers. I mean Kobe does the dumbest stuff and takes the stupidest shots. But you know what, its Kobe, and thats what makes him great. Odom plays within the Offense, does dirty work, plays solid D, scores, passes, and is a great rebounder. Sure he is not the most clutch and he makes bonehead plays. But you accept it as his shortcomings and hopefully he can get better.

How could anyone piss and moan about Odom's contract with Kwame on the team. Odom makes what he should for what he produces. I wish he could play like he deserves a 2nd max contract, but that just isn't reality.

By the way, I think Sasha could put up 9/7/6 in Smush's minutes. I like the offensive flow with Sasha in the game. What do you guys think?

bounty · Star Player Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 3946

No. LO did have a nice game (he was freaken due). BUT we need him to play well when games get hot. 2nd halves. When the lead shrank so did he. he had bone headed plays in there, it wasnt all "Playing within the offense".
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G1 Hydrogenic · Sixth Man Joined: 13 Feb 2006 Posts: 38

He had a great game...and more importantly he had an impact on the game itself. There have been plenty of games where he's racked the stats us but didn't have an impact on the game.

That said, I hope this breaks him out of his post-Sacramento funk and he'll be more consistent. There was definitely a concerted effort on his part to be more aggressive with the ball on offense and definitely more presence on defense.

SoCal88 · Star Player Joined: 11 Apr 2001 Posts: 7486

It seems the team is going to cyclical with performances. Saturday was Kwame, Monday was Odom. Who's next? Sasha?

Vlade · Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:15 am Post subject:

I agree with everybody.
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Muad'Dib · Star Player Joined: 19 Sep 2004 Posts: 3903

He needs to stop trying to finger roll it home and starting dunking that thing.

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THE_SHOES · Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:27 pm Post subject:

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While guys like Kwame and Odom should dunk it more often - Being a dunker can cause many injuries

Amare is out for the season or almost that much
Carter is injury prone

You have to be smart with your body.

Odom dunked it two-three times yesterday. The problem with LO is that he likes to take shots off the board. Be it layups or shots in the post - He seems to like taking shots that rely on the board to go in. Sometimes you just need to dunk the ball. Odom atleast has decent hands. His dribbling is good in the post and he does have problem with excessive contact.

Instead of going hard he looks for a call (and then loses it when he doesn't get it)

THE_SHOES · Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:38 pm Post subject:

Thats true Wolfy but, man I just sometimes see where the slam would have been more effective as you watch the defense rape a man underneath and, it just appeared to have been preventable... You're right though. Slammin can get you hurt. All the best of them are out for a lot of stretches it seems...

Sometimes I think that is why Kobe has fallen so deeply in love with the J. He hasn't missed much time this season so I guess you can't knock it. Refs won't always protect him coming in hard either so, I can see his point...
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THE_SHOES · Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:46 pm Post subject:

tru dat... He has seemingly addressed that issue to some degree however. Jax called it on him early in the season when he would just "mad" himself all the way out of a contest. He still doesn't know when to hush though and, I'm surprised he doesn't get "T'd" up more often...
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He doesn't cuss at refs that much. Kobe starts cussing and same with anyplayer that picks up T's.

Most refs will tolerate complaints but T you up if you cuss them out.

LO still has the problem of taking contract though. He expects the call to be made everytime instead of actually looking to keeping the shot/play going.

An adjustment on that trait alone - should increase Odom's production on points by 4-6 per game.

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40ptmachine · Starting Rotation Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 633

These LO famboys don't give a rat's tail about winning

LO sucks, live with it !

This is getting annoying, how can you overrate a ROLE PLAYER like that ?
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Melon Tea · Star Player Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 1528

i don't HATE odom. I never hated odom. I just want him to get a new brain

KingKobeDubbz · Starting Rotation Joined: 09 Jun 2005 Posts: 734

Like what Magic Johnson said," I guy that brings 15 points and 10 rebounds a night i will take any day! I mean to have that as your secondary to Kobe? Works out well. " I mean we all know that Magic may be the most bitter about Shaquille is gone but let's face it ain't no point dwelling on it. Gotta move on and work with what we got. I think what he is trying to say that Lamar pretty much bringing 15 and 10 a night is a great complementary to Kobe's 30 plus a night. Which if you do the math is good news. I mean to add even more proof this disastrous road trip which we finnaly got over with Lamar was a huge reason for the loses for his absence. True stuff and you all know it. I've never hated on Lamar . I've always been a Lamar Odom fan even since the Clipper days. Now the next step is to stop bringing hate from all the Odom haters. face it or not he is gonna be a Laker and that is how the cookie crumbles. So if you gonna hate on Lamar your pretty much hating on the Lakers. Why don't jump on the CLipperground.net or something. Like some bandwagon bastards who jump to the cross town rivals. I got the Clipper flag burning in flames in backyard as the Laker flag glows proudly hanging.