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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 12:11 pm    Post subject:

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Wow...how far LakersGround has fallen. the word cesspool comes to mind


I was thinking the exact same thing.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:52 pm    Post subject:

I'm sick of Julius Randle, he should be way better than what he is.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:12 am    Post subject:

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Wow...how far LakersGround has fallen. the word cesspool comes to mind


Just as the Lakers have fallen since the demise of Dr. Buss. It starts at the top.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:18 pm    Post subject:

Are we having fun yet?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:01 pm    Post subject:

DLO having another nice game today.

The only good thing about the trade to the Nets is he might screw the Cavs out of a top-5 pick.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:04 pm    Post subject:

Why do we care where the Cavs draft?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:17 pm    Post subject:

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Why do we care where the Cavs draft?


I'd assume they'd want to use their pick to trade for an elite player to pair with Lebron - which they probably can only do if it top-3. If it is say 6-10, they might have trouble trading the pick for anyone that moves the needle enough.

Although, if the pick is top-3, do they think about rebuilding completely if they can't win this year?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:04 pm    Post subject:

There is a lot of young talent in the league eclipsing the Lakers' core right now. A failure in 2018 is gonna be baaaaaaaad
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:17 pm    Post subject:

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Why do we care where the Cavs draft?


I'd assume they'd want to use their pick to trade for an elite player to pair with Lebron - which they probably can only do if it top-3. If it is say 6-10, they might have trouble trading the pick for anyone that moves the needle enough.

Although, if the pick is top-3, do they think about rebuilding completely if they can't win this year?


The Cavs own the Nets pick not the Lakers pick
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:09 pm    Post subject:

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There is a lot of young talent in the league eclipsing the Lakers' core right now. A failure in 2018 is gonna be baaaaaaaad

What type of failure are you talking about?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:22 pm    Post subject:

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There is a lot of young talent in the league eclipsing the Lakers' core right now. A failure in 2018 is gonna be baaaaaaaad

What type of failure are you talking about?


Coming away from this upcoming summer without at least one legit superstar.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:51 pm    Post subject:

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There is a lot of young talent in the league eclipsing the Lakers' core right now. A failure in 2018 is gonna be baaaaaaaad

Lo and behold, Orlando was patient with Aaron Gordon after jerking him around through three different coaches and multiple position switches, and may finally have a star. They also gave up on Oladipo and Tobias Harris early in pursuit of established vets to get them into the playoffs asap, and both those guys are going ham early this season.

Which is a call to both Magic and us fans to be patient.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:03 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
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There is a lot of young talent in the league eclipsing the Lakers' core right now. A failure in 2018 is gonna be baaaaaaaad

Lo and behold, Orlando was patient with Aaron Gordon after jerking him around through three different coaches and multiple position switches, and may finally have a star. They also gave up on Oladipo and Tobias Harris early in pursuit of established vets to get them into the playoffs asap, and both those guys are going ham early this season.

Which is a call to both Magic and us fans to be patient.


Right. Another example is Donovan Mitchell who looked amazing in preseason. Hes been struggling since the regular season started; maybe Utah will trade him to the lakers

Edit: now hes on fire in the 4th
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:31 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
justsomelakerfan wrote:
There is a lot of young talent in the league eclipsing the Lakers' core right now. A failure in 2018 is gonna be baaaaaaaad

Lo and behold, Orlando was patient with Aaron Gordon after jerking him around through three different coaches and multiple position switches, and may finally have a star. They also gave up on Oladipo and Tobias Harris early in pursuit of established vets to get them into the playoffs asap, and both those guys are going ham early this season.

Which is a call to both Magic and us fans to be patient.


Besides DLo, the Lakers have kept all their young'ns right?
Who did the magic bring in for Victor and Tobias? A max guy?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:57 am    Post subject:

epak wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
justsomelakerfan wrote:
There is a lot of young talent in the league eclipsing the Lakers' core right now. A failure in 2018 is gonna be baaaaaaaad

Lo and behold, Orlando was patient with Aaron Gordon after jerking him around through three different coaches and multiple position switches, and may finally have a star. They also gave up on Oladipo and Tobias Harris early in pursuit of established vets to get them into the playoffs asap, and both those guys are going ham early this season.

Which is a call to both Magic and us fans to be patient.


Besides DLo, the Lakers have kept all their young'ns right?
Who did the magic bring in for Victor and Tobias? A max guy?

It's proscriptive, not just descriptive.

1) The Magic traded Ilyasova, Oladipo, and the rights to Sabonis to OKC for Ibaka, and then traded Ibaka to Toronto for Terrence Ross and the #25 pick. The Magic then traded the #25 pick (the rights to big man A. Pasceniks) to the Sixers for OKC's 2020 1st (top-20 protected in 2020/21, then converts to two 2nd round picks in 2023/24) and a 2020 Philly 2nd.

2) The Magic traded Tobias Harris to Detroit for Ersan Ilyasova and Brandon Jennings in an effort to clear cap, open up more playing time for Aaron Gordon at SF, and try to make a push for the playoffs. Only one of those things worked out, and the Magic used their additional cap space to pursue Al Horford before pivoting to Bismack Biyombo. Obviously Iltasova was also part of the Ibaka trade.

(Interestingly, Ilyasova was traded along with a conditional 2020 1st from OKC to Philly for Jerami Grant, the very same 2020 OKC 1st that Orlando acquired when trading the rights to Paceniks to Philly!)

Overall Orlando haul for trading Harris and Oladipo:
- Terrence Ross
- Bismack Biyombo (signed into cap space)
- 2020 1st via OKC (top-20 protected)
- 2020 2nd via Philly
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:37 am    Post subject:

too much analysis...everyone sit back and enjoy the game for what it is...entertainment...not life or death
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 6:52 pm    Post subject:

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Wow...how far LakersGround has fallen. the word cesspool comes to mind


I was thinking the exact same thing.


Bitter folks
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:58 pm    Post subject:

I'd like to suggest that this thread be renamed "True Fans Who Are Not Afraid to Criticize our Beloved Lakers".
As is, the current titles likely purpose is to belittle and marginalized its participants.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:03 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
epak wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
justsomelakerfan wrote:
There is a lot of young talent in the league eclipsing the Lakers' core right now. A failure in 2018 is gonna be baaaaaaaad

Lo and behold, Orlando was patient with Aaron Gordon after jerking him around through three different coaches and multiple position switches, and may finally have a star. They also gave up on Oladipo and Tobias Harris early in pursuit of established vets to get them into the playoffs asap, and both those guys are going ham early this season.

Which is a call to both Magic and us fans to be patient.


Besides DLo, the Lakers have kept all their young'ns right?
Who did the magic bring in for Victor and Tobias? A max guy?

It's proscriptive, not just descriptive.

1) The Magic traded Ilyasova, Oladipo, and the rights to Sabonis to OKC for Ibaka, and then traded Ibaka to Toronto for Terrence Ross and the #25 pick. The Magic then traded the #25 pick (the rights to big man A. Pasceniks) to the Sixers for OKC's 2020 1st (top-20 protected in 2020/21, then converts to two 2nd round picks in 2023/24) and a 2020 Philly 2nd.

2) The Magic traded Tobias Harris to Detroit for Ersan Ilyasova and Brandon Jennings in an effort to clear cap, open up more playing time for Aaron Gordon at SF, and try to make a push for the playoffs. Only one of those things worked out, and the Magic used their additional cap space to pursue Al Horford before pivoting to Bismack Biyombo. Obviously Iltasova was also part of the Ibaka trade.

(Interestingly, Ilyasova was traded along with a conditional 2020 1st from OKC to Philly for Jerami Grant, the very same 2020 OKC 1st that Orlando acquired when trading the rights to Paceniks to Philly!)

Overall Orlando haul for trading Harris and Oladipo:
- Terrence Ross
- Bismack Biyombo (signed into cap space)
- 2020 1st via OKC (top-20 protected)
- 2020 2nd via Philly


Thanks for all that!
Not the best haul.
They seem to be playing well this year.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:13 am    Post subject:

F* Tragic.

Lopez is POS. Can't believe we traded a 21 yr old starting to blossom in his third season.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:17 am    Post subject:

hope russ drops 40 on magics head when he returns.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:33 am    Post subject:

kobe_4_mvp wrote:
hope russ drops 40 on magics head when he returns.


I hope KCP & Hart hold him scoreless.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:35 am    Post subject:

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hope russ drops 40 on magics head when he returns.


I hope KCP & Hart hold him scoreless.


Kcp and hart huh? Make that 50.

At first i was confused why you didnt include ball, but rememebred theyre hiding him on defense.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:44 am    Post subject:

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hope russ drops 40 on magics head when he returns.


I hope KCP & Hart hold him scoreless.


Kcp and hart huh? Make that 50.

At first i was confused why you didnt include ball, but rememebred theyre hiding him on defense.
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