He's slowy improving his off the dribble capabilities, from where he started the season (end of last season was a spectacular anomaly)... If he can continue inching towards what he was at the end of last season, then he becomes our clear 3rd best player
I'm a sucker for great stories and narratives and he's one.
We lost most of our YUTES, and he's already 25, but I feel like he's a bit "homegrown" for us. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
Who "discovered" The Pope for the Lakers? OKC waived him in 2016 and we signed him 10 months later. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns".
Who "discovered" The Pope for the Lakers? OKC waived him in 2016 and we signed him 10 months later.
One of the Buss Kids
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South Bay Lakers President Joey Buss wanted to know why his team couldn’t shake off the Oklahoma City Blue in last year’s NBA G League standings.
Despite rattling off enough wins to capture the Pacific Division, South Bay couldn’t distance itself from the Blue, which finished with a matching 34-16 record.
The answer to Buss and his staff was the play of OKC point guard Alex Caruso — a 6-foot-5 two-way playmaker who led the league in steals and ranked sixth in assists.
So when the G League held a combine for its players in Chicago over the offseason, Buss and co. were already locked in on the 23-year-old rookie.
“He was the best player at that combine,” Buss said. “That helped us seal our decision to bring him to Summer League. And he seized the opportunity.”
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Posts: 22841 Location: La Jolla, San Diego
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:50 am Post subject:
ringfinger wrote:
Not that I want to, but Caruso is a perfect sell high candidate.
No, Kuzma was. Because he has "star" potential so they say. So when his numbers don't keep improving, his stock drops. No one has any delusions of AC. He is a perfect role player. Who you gonna trade him for? Unless he's wanted in a super star deal. It makes less sense to trade him in smaller deals cause they guys you get back most likely do not bring the intangibles that AC has.
Not that I want to, but Caruso is a perfect sell high candidate.
No, Kuzma was. Because he has "star" potential so they say. So when his numbers don't keep improving, his stock drops. No one has any delusions of AC. He is a perfect role player. Who you gonna trade him for? Unless he's wanted in a super star deal. It makes less sense to trade him in smaller deals cause they guys you get back most likely do not bring the intangibles that AC has.
I’m not saying you trade him because his value is high. I am saying if you are going to trade someone, you do it when their value is high.
And yes, Kuzma was also. But Kuzma is not right now.
The problem is you only see trade ideas when a player’s value is low. Think I saw a Kuz for 2nd rounder before. Lol
Who "discovered" The Pope for the Lakers? OKC waived him in 2016 and we signed him 10 months later.
One of the Buss Kids
Quote:
South Bay Lakers President Joey Buss wanted to know why his team couldn’t shake off the Oklahoma City Blue in last year’s NBA G League standings.
Despite rattling off enough wins to capture the Pacific Division, South Bay couldn’t distance itself from the Blue, which finished with a matching 34-16 record.
The answer to Buss and his staff was the play of OKC point guard Alex Caruso — a 6-foot-5 two-way playmaker who led the league in steals and ranked sixth in assists.
So when the G League held a combine for its players in Chicago over the offseason, Buss and co. were already locked in on the 23-year-old rookie.
“He was the best player at that combine,” Buss said. “That helped us seal our decision to bring him to Summer League. And he seized the opportunity.”
Our drafting and scouting department is really, really good.
Who "discovered" The Pope for the Lakers? OKC waived him in 2016 and we signed him 10 months later.
One of the Buss Kids
Quote:
South Bay Lakers President Joey Buss wanted to know why his team couldn’t shake off the Oklahoma City Blue in last year’s NBA G League standings.
Despite rattling off enough wins to capture the Pacific Division, South Bay couldn’t distance itself from the Blue, which finished with a matching 34-16 record.
The answer to Buss and his staff was the play of OKC point guard Alex Caruso — a 6-foot-5 two-way playmaker who led the league in steals and ranked sixth in assists.
So when the G League held a combine for its players in Chicago over the offseason, Buss and co. were already locked in on the 23-year-old rookie.
“He was the best player at that combine,” Buss said. “That helped us seal our decision to bring him to Summer League. And he seized the opportunity.”
I’m glad at least one of Buss kids know basketball.
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Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:50 pm Post subject:
danzag wrote:
epak wrote:
Dr. Laker wrote:
Who "discovered" The Pope for the Lakers? OKC waived him in 2016 and we signed him 10 months later.
One of the Buss Kids
Quote:
South Bay Lakers President Joey Buss wanted to know why his team couldn’t shake off the Oklahoma City Blue in last year’s NBA G League standings.
Despite rattling off enough wins to capture the Pacific Division, South Bay couldn’t distance itself from the Blue, which finished with a matching 34-16 record.
The answer to Buss and his staff was the play of OKC point guard Alex Caruso — a 6-foot-5 two-way playmaker who led the league in steals and ranked sixth in assists.
So when the G League held a combine for its players in Chicago over the offseason, Buss and co. were already locked in on the 23-year-old rookie.
“He was the best player at that combine,” Buss said. “That helped us seal our decision to bring him to Summer League. And he seized the opportunity.”
Our drafting and scouting department is really, really good.
Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Posts: 4372 Location: Lake Nacimiento
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:26 pm Post subject:
ringfinger wrote:
hype wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
Not that I want to, but Caruso is a perfect sell high candidate.
Or he is the perfect kind of role player every championship team needs a few of. It would be a huge mistake to trade him imo and this is coming from someone who doesn't even normally over hype him. Unless it's a blatantly obvious upgrade you don't mess with trading big rotation players on a team that's destroying the league.
Everything he has been doing is completely sustainable.. He's that perfect spark off the bench that can completely turn a game around with defense and/or offense at any time.
I’m not disagreeing with you. I’m merely pointing out at this is the time to move on a player, when their value is high. Not when their value is low.
I get what you're saying about selling high I just don't think it applies to Caruso because most of what he is doing he will continue to do on a regular basis for years to come. This probably isn't even his high.
If Kuzma goes on a hot streak soon i'd def. consider that selling high to trade him since he will still have a season and a half left on a dirt cheap contact which would be very valuable as well. Looking at his entire history as a basketball player you can see he will probably come back down to earth sooner then later with the hot shooting so it might be worth it depending what you could get back.
There will def. be some teams that are looking to blow it up later this year though so i'm all for looking at any trade that could possibly make us better. I have no doubt the Clippers will be active as well.
Kuzma and Caruso are very different. I don’t like the comparisons. Kuzma was a first round draft pick who performed better than his late first round status and garnered high expectations by the end of his first year. He has not really continued on that same trajectory since his first year (but there is time).
Caruso was a second round pick, bounces around in the g-league, and continues to perform better than expected ALL THE TIME despite not fitting the NBA prototype in measureables.
I wouldn’t “sell high” on Caruso. He’s the type of low-payroll role player (starter??) that championship teams have. _________________
Fish made a pretty big one in Game 3 vs Boston if I recall
But yeah.....he Freaking SUCKED at layups Lol
Years and years of watching that ball bounce off the glass, oftentimes not even drawing iron. Smh. Brutal
Better AC comparisons from the past for a valuable team player PG would be Brian Shaw or (old) Ron Harper. Both had a similar hairstyle as I recall.
All the talk about trades for player X with Kuzma, Cousins, Cook, etc to makeup a package probably go nowhere without AC included. With that in mind, I think our only mid season pickups are going to be for waived players.
I don’t see Caruso fitting the sell high profile, which is often a function of flashy play and perceived potential.
He has some physical tools, but he’s primarily a guy who will outwork and outhustle you. When you have guys that fit that profile, that is clearly on a growth trajectory, you hang onto them. Last year Caruso proved he was an NBA player. This year he’s proving he’s a rotation quality player. If he cleans up a few things and raises his shooting splits, he will get to starter level.
On a team built around two stars, that’s like striking gold. _________________ Austin Reaves keeps his game tight, like Kobe Bryant on game night.
I don’t see Caruso fitting the sell high profile, which is often a function of flashy play and perceived potential.
He has some physical tools, but he’s primarily a guy who will outwork and outhustle you. When you have guys that fit that profile, that is clearly on a growth trajectory, you hang onto them. Last year Caruso proved he was an NBA player. This year he’s proving he’s a rotation quality player. If he cleans up a few things and raises his shooting splits, he will get to starter level.
On a team built around two stars, that’s like striking gold.
Kuzma may have been the sell high guy but we didnt sell
I don’t see Caruso fitting the sell high profile, which is often a function of flashy play and perceived potential.
He has some physical tools, but he’s primarily a guy who will outwork and outhustle you. When you have guys that fit that profile, that is clearly on a growth trajectory, you hang onto them. Last year Caruso proved he was an NBA player. This year he’s proving he’s a rotation quality player. If he cleans up a few things and raises his shooting splits, he will get to starter level.
On a team built around two stars, that’s like striking gold.
_________________ “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”
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Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:46 pm Post subject:
Didn't realize he shot 48% from three last year. 24-50 is not a huge sample size, but enough to know he can shoot. He struggled earlier, but he's starting to knock them down now. Add a three pt weapon to all the intangibles he already brings, and he is a keeper.
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Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:16 pm Post subject:
Carushow wrote:
Nice little interview with the great one:
That's nice of AC to try to help his college friend try to be a youtuber lol. _________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him
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