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Doc JC
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| Practice wrote: | | The stats guys on twitter are killing him. |
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socalsp3
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Hope they dont have to cut Nwaba to get to 18 mil |
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City_Dawg
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| jonnybravo wrote: | | Doberman @ the 2! |
For real this time? 
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDRan-kheZA
Excellent defensive awareness, and he doesn't die on screens.. Fights even when beat off the dribble.
Here he is giving Steph and Klay trouble. |
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CervantesRises
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| incontrol__ wrote: | | AY2043 wrote: | Honestly can't believe we got this dude. He was on my "want, but don't think we have a chance in hell" list at the start of the offseason.
Also, I've always wanted to start an OFFICIAL thread  |
No kidding! Such an exciting signing! |
Can anyone explain to me how in the hell a player like this is renounced?
Jesus Magic is one of the luckiest SOBs I've ever seen.
Needed a top 3 pick...check
Needed a leader...check
Needed to unload a horrendous contract...check
Needed a dope SG to replace DLo...check
This team just got worlds better than last year roster, chemistry, and talent wise in 1 offseason with ZERO wiggle room.
AND we're open for business next year?
I LOVE MAGIC!
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bandiger
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Doc JC wrote: | | Practice wrote: | | The stats guys on twitter are killing him. |
Please elaborate |
Cranjis McBasketball twitter (@T1m_NBA ). He is killing my good vibes although the positives are he's above average on catch and shoot and PnR scoring  |
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Sentient Meat
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Does anyone know whether he has a nickname... or do they just call him Kentavious? |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| bandiger wrote: | | Doc JC wrote: | | Practice wrote: | | The stats guys on twitter are killing him. |
Please elaborate |
Cranjis McBasketball twitter (@T1m_NBA ). He is killing my good vibes although the positives are he's above average on catch and shoot and PnR scoring |
Stat guys rarely pay attention to defense and even when they do defensive stats are extremely flawed, I'm optimistic |
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CervantesRises
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Chase.button07 wrote: |
u posted same thing in 2 threads?
its just 2 games, lets enjoy KCP while there was no decent FA left |
Some people see a happy camp fire and can't help but micturate on it.
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socalsp3
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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| bandiger wrote: | | Doc JC wrote: | | Practice wrote: | | The stats guys on twitter are killing him. |
Please elaborate |
Cranjis McBasketball twitter (@T1m_NBA ). He is killing my good vibes although the positives are he's above average on catch and shoot and PnR scoring |
He had Reggie Jackson passing him the ball in Detroit  |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| bandiger wrote: | | Doc JC wrote: | | Practice wrote: | | The stats guys on twitter are killing him. |
Please elaborate |
Cranjis McBasketball twitter (@T1m_NBA ). He is killing my good vibes although the positives are he's above average on catch and shoot and PnR scoring |
I mean honestly though, the alternatives at 2 were Hart and JC. Surely KCP is a better option than those two. And there weren't any other decent FA's of note |
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CervantesRises
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| chantruong wrote: | | Looks like the Celtics indirectly helped us. Could bite them in May |
It's times like this that LG needs a 'Like' Button.
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Doc JC
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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System also makes a huge difference. From the few times I saw the pistons play, aren't they a slower paced team?
KCP seems built to run all game long. |
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dlofan
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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| CervantesRises wrote: | | incontrol__ wrote: | | AY2043 wrote: | Honestly can't believe we got this dude. He was on my "want, but don't think we have a chance in hell" list at the start of the offseason.
Also, I've always wanted to start an OFFICIAL thread |
No kidding! Such an exciting signing! |
Can anyone explain to me how in the hell a player like this is renounced?
Jesus Magic is one of the luckiest SOBs I've ever seen.
Needed a top 3 pick...check
Needed a leader...check
Needed to unload a horrendous contract...check
Needed a dope SG to replace DLo...check
This team just got worlds better than last year roster, chemistry, and talent wise in 1 offseason with ZERO wiggle room.
AND we're open for business next year?
I LOVE MAGIC! |
I though I read Detroit was hard capped. They also probably didn't want to pay him what his agent was demanding. Either way, their loss our gain |
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Goldenwest
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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a young Vince Carter |
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Doc JC
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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| AY2043 wrote: | | bandiger wrote: | | Doc JC wrote: | | Practice wrote: | | The stats guys on twitter are killing him. |
Please elaborate |
Cranjis McBasketball twitter (@T1m_NBA ). He is killing my good vibes although the positives are he's above average on catch and shoot and PnR scoring |
I mean honestly though, the alternatives at 2 were Hart and JC. Surely KCP is a better option than those two. And there weren't any other decent FA's of note |
I don't think it's even in question. KCP's ability (supposedly) to guard the opposing teams best G and lock him down ALONE makes this a huge signing. His highlights clearly show he will have the ability to run and finish at the rim.
The big question mark is if he will be able to shoot a high enough % from 3 to really make him valuable. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Only 3 years older than DLO FYI. |
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Doc JC
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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| dlofan wrote: | | CervantesRises wrote: | | incontrol__ wrote: | | AY2043 wrote: | Honestly can't believe we got this dude. He was on my "want, but don't think we have a chance in hell" list at the start of the offseason.
Also, I've always wanted to start an OFFICIAL thread |
No kidding! Such an exciting signing! |
Can anyone explain to me how in the hell a player like this is renounced?
Jesus Magic is one of the luckiest SOBs I've ever seen.
Needed a top 3 pick...check
Needed a leader...check
Needed to unload a horrendous contract...check
Needed a dope SG to replace DLo...check
This team just got worlds better than last year roster, chemistry, and talent wise in 1 offseason with ZERO wiggle room.
AND we're open for business next year?
I LOVE MAGIC! |
I though I read Detroit was hard capped. They also probably didn't want to pay him what his agent was demanding. Either way, their loss our gain |
He turned down a 5 year 80 mil contract. |
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Villain6Activated
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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damn, this dude really loves those 1 handed monster dunks. That'll be fun to see
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CervantesRises
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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| dlofan wrote: | | CervantesRises wrote: | | incontrol__ wrote: | | AY2043 wrote: | Honestly can't believe we got this dude. He was on my "want, but don't think we have a chance in hell" list at the start of the offseason.
Also, I've always wanted to start an OFFICIAL thread |
No kidding! Such an exciting signing! |
Can anyone explain to me how in the hell a player like this is renounced?
Jesus Magic is one of the luckiest SOBs I've ever seen.
Needed a top 3 pick...check
Needed a leader...check
Needed to unload a horrendous contract...check
Needed a dope SG to replace DLo...check
This team just got worlds better than last year roster, chemistry, and talent wise in 1 offseason with ZERO wiggle room.
AND we're open for business next year?
I LOVE MAGIC! |
I though I read Detroit was hard capped. They also probably didn't want to pay him what his agent was demanding. Either way, their loss our gain |
Avery Bradley is good player...but I'm all about paying guys I developed insane money...this kid looks lightening quick and ferocious on D...paired with Ball and in Luke's system..
He gonna be able to back up the brink's truck next June.
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fansincemagic
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| We've been starving for a good defender, so much so we call poor average. KCP has the potential to lock down, rotate and hit 3's eventually like Ariza or dare we say Coop level? |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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Pope will be licking his chops next to Lonzo.
Good pickup and a really good complimentary player.
Gotta have faith.
Thank you Magic for getting it done. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Doc JC wrote: | | Practice wrote: | | The stats guys on twitter are killing him. |
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| Quote: | Cranjis McBurnItDown
@T1m_NBA
KCP
62nd best SG in DRPM
22nd %ile ODR
20th %ile driving D
10th %ile iso D
39th %ile off screen D
I have concerns about that defense
Cranjis McBurnItDown @T1m_NBA 35m35 minutes ago
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39th %ile jump shooting D
26th %ile off dribble D
7th %ile mid range D
11th %ile floater D
13th %ile post D
35th %ile spot up D
Cranjis McBurnItDown @T1m_NBA 31m31 minutes ago
Positives from KCP's defense:
82nd %ile guarded catch and shoot defense
Best PnR defense on team (although just in 42nd %ile)
Cranjis McBurnItDown @T1m_NBA 31m31 minutes ago
39th %ile for overall PnR offense when you incorporate passes as well. 13th %ile on those pass outs
Cranjis McBurnItDown @T1m_NBA 27m27 minutes ago
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KCP was 9th worst in driving efficiency of the 210 players who had 100+ drives last season
Cranjis McBurnItDown @T1m_NBA 23m23 minutes ago
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Just checked Synergy for historical KCP data and defensively he's had the same weaknesses every year since he's been in the league 
Cranjis McBurnItDown @T1m_NBA 22m22 minutes ago
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This isn't one fluky year of weird defensive data. He's consistently poor defending PnR, iso, off screens, drives, and off dribble shots
Cranjis McBurnItDown @T1m_NBA 13m13 minutes ago
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Offensively KCP brings a couple skills:
70th %ile PnR scoring (13th %ile passing)
67th %ile catch & shoot
Those the only 2 big positives
Cranjis McBurnItDown @T1m_NBA 9m9 minutes ago
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Playing w/Jackson & Drummond doesn't help (2 awful defenders), but remove those 2 & KCP is Detroit's worst defender by PPP |
There's more from other people, but this is already a lot. |
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