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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:18 am    Post subject:

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That's like 5 good games straight for KCP since being a free man. Previous 4 games he seemed to mostly play within himself and take the shots we should be having him take.

He still had some frustrating moments this game, but I can't blame him too much for trying to do more than he's capable of when we're missing Lonzo and Ingram and half the roster came out flat.

Agreed. Got to give credit where credit is due.
KCP started at SF and led the team with 27 points, 7 rebounds, 3 assists & 2 steals.
KCP is playing much better now. He brought energy and had a really good game against the Griz. Of course he has his flaws but who doesn't.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:22 pm    Post subject:

FYI: Knicks may go after Kentavious Caldwell-Pope this summer, while Willy Hernangomez garnering trade interest from teams

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As the Knicks plot out their future during this downtrending season, a particular mold of player remains a priority for the front office, according to sources: an athletic wing.

One of that ilk who has piqued New Yorks interest is Lakers forward Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, who will be an unrestricted free agent in the summer. Caldwell-Pope certainly fits the ideal at just 24 years old with potential as an elite perimeter defender.


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/knicks-kentavious-caldwell-pope-summer-article-1.3771798
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:23 pm    Post subject:

KCP & BI are PLAYING TONIGHT.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:13 pm    Post subject:

KCP is terrible. He needs to be relegated to ~14min/game. If Luke can do that to Lopez and Randle, he can do it to the chronic underachieving drunk driving parole violating KCP. Josh Hart is the better player right now, and he will be a key piece for this team for years. Hart needs to take most of KCP's minutes, he has earned them and KCP has lost them.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:13 am    Post subject:

If you look at his numbers, it's right in line with his career, except he's dropped 6% in FT% this year. But I suspect the drop in FT% is for comradery, so he can fit in with his Laker teammates.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:16 am    Post subject:

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If you look at his numbers, it's right in line with his career, except he's dropped 6% in FT% this year. But I suspect the drop in FT% is for comradery, so he can fit in with his Laker teammates.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:25 am    Post subject:

Runway8 wrote:
If you look at his numbers, it's right in line with his career, except he's dropped 6% in FT% this year. But I suspect the drop in FT% is for comradery, so he can fit in with his Laker teammates.


Hows KCPs clutch numbers like compared to last year? Did it drop? Did he even have any? Hes been getting so many drawn up plays in the clutch this season.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:26 am    Post subject:

Nash Vegas wrote:
Runway8 wrote:
If you look at his numbers, it's right in line with his career, except he's dropped 6% in FT% this year. But I suspect the drop in FT% is for comradery, so he can fit in with his Laker teammates.


Hows KCPs clutch numbers like compared to last year? Did it drop? Did he even have any? Hes been getting so many drawn up plays in the clutch this season.


That must've been stipulated in the one-year golden contract Maginka drew up with Rich Paul last summer.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:35 am    Post subject:

Im hoping they can somehow move him at the deadline. Id rather see Hart getting 35mpg.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:41 am    Post subject:

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Im hoping they can somehow move him at the deadline. Id rather see Hart getting 35mpg.


Me too. I hate his offensive game but his defense is what drives me crazy. Sometimes he is quite good but sometimes he is showing zero effort on D. And by his reputation he is supposed to be our best defender.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:54 am    Post subject:

He has about 1-2 good games out of every 10.

A competent coach would bring him off the bench instead of starting him....
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:36 am    Post subject:

KCP's been playing OK, but those 2 choked free throws were ugly like they weren't even close.

Hopefully it doesn't lead into a Nick Anderson effect since he's one of our only players who shoots free throws at an average level.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:53 am    Post subject:

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Im hoping they can somehow move him at the deadline. Id rather see Hart getting 35mpg.


Have to agree Doc. Hart is actually a more consistent player as a rookie, almost hard to believe.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:59 pm    Post subject:

Could KCP net us a first round pick at the deadline??
Hart can fill in for him the rest of the way and JC could also pick up the extra minutes.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:01 pm    Post subject:

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Could KCP net us a first round pick at the deadline??


Nobody will trade a 1st rounder for 2 months of KCP.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:02 pm    Post subject:

Didn't we have to waive Nwaba because this dude didn't want to take 800k less?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:05 pm    Post subject:

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Didn't we have to waive Nwaba because this dude didn't want to take 800k less?


Yeah something like that.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:56 pm    Post subject:

danzag wrote:
lakerfanaticPT wrote:
Could KCP net us a first round pick at the deadline??


Nobody will trade a 1st rounder for 2 months of KCP.


Maybe a young player than to a team looking for a playoff push or a playoff team trying to move up??
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:38 pm    Post subject:

Can we give the Knicks KCP right now?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:00 am    Post subject:

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Didn't we have to waive Nwaba because this dude didn't want to take 800k less?


Yes and it still makes me sad. I miss Mr. Dunk!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:21 pm    Post subject:

He's paid like a star when he's a quality role player. Frustrating for sure.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:20 pm    Post subject:

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He's paid like a star when he's a quality role player. Frustrating for sure.


It would be frustrating if he had a long term contract, since it's one year, who cares if he's overpaid ? In out recent good stretch of games (7-2), he's averaging 9 shots / game, doesn't try to do too much, playing solid defense. What can you ask more for a one year rental ?
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He's paid like a star when he's a quality role player. Frustrating for sure.


It would be frustrating if he had a long term contract, since it's one year, who cares if he's overpaid ? In out recent good stretch of games (7-2), he's averaging 9 shots / game, doesn't try to do too much, playing solid defense. What can you ask more for a one year rental ?


I agree that I usually don't care about how much the 1 year rental's are getting paid. But it seems like with that contract has come a few things that we do care about:
1. He's getting more clutch opportunity than I'd care for. We should be giving those all to our young players and not a 1 year rental.
2. Though he's solid, there's times he's not, and would like to see those minutes be distributed to others like Hart. But feels like because he's being paid to like a veteran star for this team, he's getting minutes to match taking away opportunity from the youth.
3. Somebody noted we lost Nwaba in the process, another prospect.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:12 pm    Post subject:

lakez34 wrote:
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He's paid like a star when he's a quality role player. Frustrating for sure.


It would be frustrating if he had a long term contract, since it's one year, who cares if he's overpaid ? In out recent good stretch of games (7-2), he's averaging 9 shots / game, doesn't try to do too much, playing solid defense. What can you ask more for a one year rental ?


I agree that I usually don't care about how much the 1 year rental's are getting paid. But it seems like with that contract has come a few things that we do care about:
1. He's getting more clutch opportunity than I'd care for. We should be giving those all to our young players and not a 1 year rental.
2. Though he's solid, there's times he's not, and would like to see those minutes be distributed to others like Hart. But feels like because he's being paid to like a veteran star for this team, he's getting minutes to match taking away opportunity from the youth.
3. Somebody noted we lost Nwaba in the process, another prospect.



1. You're assuming that his salary is influencing how Luke uses him. But since Luke's been coach, I've seen no indication that he tends to play guys based on their salaries.

2. Nwaba doesn't look like anything special at this point.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:58 am    Post subject:

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Im hoping they can somehow move him at the deadline. Id rather see Hart getting 35mpg.


Me too. I hate his offensive game but his defense is what drives me crazy. Sometimes he is quite good but sometimes he is showing zero effort on D. And by his reputation he is supposed to be our best defender.


On defense he has great anticipation for jumping into passing lanes and getting the steal. He is one of the best in the league at that.

His on ball defense is not good though, I have been very disappointed in that as I thought he was supposed to be a lock down defender and hie isn't. Lonzo is a far better defender on the ball as is Hart.
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