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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:15 am    Post subject:

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Not happy he is coming back but at least it is only a 1 year deal. Surely an overpay, but sounds like it made his agent happy, business I guess.

Hopefully KCP will be more focused on playing within the offense this year and not gambling so much on D.

I think you'll be more pleased with him this season when he's playing his proper role, getting a ton of shots off Lebron passes, and he isn't spending his weekends in lockup.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:20 am    Post subject:

Dang JJ Reddick just signed 1 yr $12-13mm same as KCP. Guess being a friend of LBJ is worth it haha
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:23 am    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Dr. Funkbot wrote:
Not happy he is coming back but at least it is only a 1 year deal. Surely an overpay, but sounds like it made his agent happy, business I guess.

Hopefully KCP will be more focused on playing within the offense this year and not gambling so much on D.

I think you'll be more pleased with him this season when he's playing his proper role, getting a ton of shots off Lebron passes, and he isn't spending his weekends in lockup.


Yeah... last year was odd for KCP. I think this year will be better for him.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:24 am    Post subject:

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Dang JJ Reddick just signed 1 yr $12-13mm same as KCP. Guess being a friend of LBJ is worth it haha


I mean, from Janurary 1st to the end of the season, KCP only shot 1.6% worse than Redick from 3 (42.5% vs 44.1%)
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:25 am    Post subject:

10scott10 wrote:
YSong wrote:
Dang JJ Reddick just signed 1 yr $12-13mm same as KCP. Guess being a friend of LBJ is worth it haha


I mean, from Janurary 1st to the end of the season, KCP only shot 1.6% worse than Redick from 3 (42.5% vs 44.1%)


KCP was excellent during the 2nd half of the season. He boarded like a monster too in addition to his excellent 3 pt shooting.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:26 am    Post subject:

After he got out of jail he was balling.
And he's familiar with Luke's system, so I'm happy with him coming back.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:54 am    Post subject:

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10scott10 wrote:
YSong wrote:
Dang JJ Reddick just signed 1 yr $12-13mm same as KCP. Guess being a friend of LBJ is worth it haha


I mean, from Janurary 1st to the end of the season, KCP only shot 1.6% worse than Redick from 3 (42.5% vs 44.1%)


KCP was excellent during the 2nd half of the season. He boarded like a monster too in addition to his excellent 3 pt shooting.

It was great to see him get involved as a team rebounder with Zo and Hart. He was a subpar rebounder in Detroit, but it looks like that was a product of Drummond hoovering up all the boards rather than KCP being incapable/unwilling.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:58 am    Post subject:

Would prefer JJ. He’s way more efficient than KCP.

Hope KCP has his head in straight this season and plays up his defense
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:09 am    Post subject:

RCS926 wrote:
10scott10 wrote:
YSong wrote:
Dang JJ Reddick just signed 1 yr $12-13mm same as KCP. Guess being a friend of LBJ is worth it haha


I mean, from Janurary 1st to the end of the season, KCP only shot 1.6% worse than Redick from 3 (42.5% vs 44.1%)


KCP was excellent during the 2nd half of the season. He boarded like a monster too in addition to his excellent 3 pt shooting.


https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=J.J.+Redick&player_id1_select=J.J.+Redick&y1=2018&player_id1=redicjj01&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Kentavious+Caldwell-Pope&player_id2_select=Kentavious+Caldwell-Pope&y2=2018&player_id2=caldwke01&idx=players#stats-advanced::none

Overall I think it's a wash.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:11 am    Post subject:

YSong wrote:
Would prefer JJ. He’s way more efficient than KCP.

Hope KCP has his head in straight this season and plays up his defense


He's also 34.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:12 am    Post subject:

I think we forget that KCP is just 25. His best years are still ahead of him.

Lakers now own his early bird rights too.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:13 am    Post subject:

This was obviously an overpay at $12M, but it's not the worst thing in the world. Dude can defend and shoot and you have to pay a premium for 1 year deal. And I'm sure it was a favor to lebron's agent.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:34 am    Post subject:

we gave him good deals for 2 straight years now. what are the odds, if we land Kawhi, he takes a paycut next summer so we retain his bird rights?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:44 am    Post subject:

KCP is solid. Also if the Lakers trade for KL, I could see keeping him long term in an extension. Wouldnt the Lakers have partial bird rights?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:46 am    Post subject:

this was more a favor to Klutch/KCP than anything

Personally, I think we should have thrown that money + some to Ariza on the year deal he took.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:48 am    Post subject:

GonzagaAlum wrote:
KCP is solid. Also if the Lakers trade for KL, I could see keeping him long term in an extension. Wouldnt the Lakers have partial bird rights?


how does that work? i thought you had to be on a team for 3 seasons for bird rights? im a bit of a noob about this topic
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:53 am    Post subject:

YSong wrote:
Dang JJ Reddick just signed 1 yr $12-13mm same as KCP. Guess being a friend of LBJ is worth it haha


KCP is nine years younger and much better on defense. KCP was also lights out from the three after his legal problems ended -- 42.5% on 5.3 attempts per game from January to April.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:55 am    Post subject:

He better be coming off the bench this year.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:01 am    Post subject:

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He better be coming off the bench this year.


Hopefully.

Ideally this is what I would want:

Lonzo Ball/Rajon Rondo/Lance Stephenson
Brandon Ingram/KCP/Lance Stephenson
Lebron James/Josh Hart/Svi
Kyle Kuzma/Mo Wagner
Javale McGee/Ivica Zubac/Mo Wagner

But I guess we will see.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:12 am    Post subject:

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He better be coming off the bench this year.

he should because Hart is already a much better player
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:43 pm    Post subject:

How much run did KCP get at the 3 last year? Would be awesome if he played some backup minutes at the 3 to give Hart some more run at the 2. With both on the floor they could spread the floor pretty well.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:44 pm    Post subject:

RCS926 wrote:
10scott10 wrote:
YSong wrote:
Dang JJ Reddick just signed 1 yr $12-13mm same as KCP. Guess being a friend of LBJ is worth it haha


I mean, from Janurary 1st to the end of the season, KCP only shot 1.6% worse than Redick from 3 (42.5% vs 44.1%)


KCP was excellent during the 2nd half of the season. He boarded like a monster too in addition to his excellent 3 pt shooting.


well spending your nights in jail would probably have a negative impact.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:51 pm    Post subject:

Emplay mentioned in one of his podcasts, that he could see KCP being retained over Randle. I think KCP is going to be better this year, especially playing with LeBron and Rondo.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:54 pm    Post subject:

waterman40 wrote:
Emplay mentioned in one of his podcasts, that he could see KCP being retained over Randle. I think KCP is going to be better this year, especially playing with LeBron and Rondo.


Emplay has been a top notch guy in knowing stuff for a while, so no surprise that he knew the Lakers would keep KCP
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:13 pm    Post subject:

where24happens wrote:
This was obviously an overpay at $12M, but it's not the worst thing in the world. Dude can defend and shoot and you have to pay a premium for 1 year deal. And I'm sure it was a favor to lebron's agent.


Is this opinion still being tossed about after the Clippers' signing of Avery Bradley? I wonder if professional Lakers FO troll Windy has even retired it.
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