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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:20 pm    Post subject:

KCP > JJ

He played well the 2nd half of the year despite the low bball IQ.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:24 pm    Post subject:

audioaxes wrote:
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He better be coming off the bench this year.

he should because Hart is already a much better player



I dont know about much better. Its debatable. KCP can be extremely servicable on most nights. Will give you great defense, lot of effort and he can catch fire. He can also be depended on to score 15 points most nights. Underrated player IMO.
Hart still isnt that level to me.
Oh well, doesnt hurt to have both. Next year Hart will be ready to be a starting SG for sure but as of now, a combination of KCP and Hart works better. We are very strong at the SG position with two of them.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:26 pm    Post subject:

LakersNewEra wrote:
audioaxes wrote:
Nash Vegas wrote:
He better be coming off the bench this year.

he should because Hart is already a much better player



I dont know about much better. Its debatable. KCP can be extremely servicable on most nights. Will give you great defense, lot of effort and he can catch fire. He can also be depended on to score 15 points most nights. Underrated player IMO.
Hart still isnt that level to me.
Oh well, doesnt hurt to have both. Next year Hart will be ready to be a starting SG for sure but as of now, a combination of KCP and Hart works better. We are very strong at the SG position with two of them.


Apparently we can only have one SG we really like...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:50 pm    Post subject:

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How much run did KCP get at the 3 last year? Would be awesome if he played some backup minutes at the 3 to give Hart some more run at the 2. With both on the floor they could spread the floor pretty well.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:52 pm    Post subject:

I liked what KCP brought last year. He was a million times better than Clarkson.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:54 pm    Post subject:

How does KCP compare with current Ariza?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:56 pm    Post subject:

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How does KCP compare with current Ariza?


Ariza is up there in age. Its close but I think Ariza is still better. Going forward KCP is probably going to surpass him soon.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 3:08 pm    Post subject:

nickuku wrote:
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How does KCP compare with current Ariza?


Ariza is up there in age. Its close but I think Ariza is still better. Going forward KCP is probably going to surpass him soon.


I think Ariza will be a Laker after the suns buy him out in February.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 3:14 pm    Post subject:

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How does KCP compare with current Ariza?


Ariza is up there in age. Its close but I think Ariza is still better. Going forward KCP is probably going to surpass him soon.


I think Ariza will be a Laker after the suns buy him out in February.

Why would they buy him out when they just paid him 15 mil?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 3:36 pm    Post subject:

I don't think LA overpayed for KCP. Look at the comps: Ariza (1-Yr, $15M), Tyreke (1-Yr, $12M), A Bradley (2-Yr, $25.0M, $2M guarantee 19-20), Redick (1-Yr, $13M), Harris (2-Yr, $16M), Exum (3-Yr, $33M), Hezonja (1-Yr, $6.5M), Belinelli (2-Yr, $12M),Barton (4-Yr, $54M),

KCP (1-Yr, $12M)

The only other SGs on the market: Young, Ellington, Vince, Smart and Lavine (latter two restricted).
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 3:37 pm    Post subject:

I thought KCP was pretty good after the jail thing.

I expect him to be key contributor this season. He has the tools.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:09 pm    Post subject:

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nickuku wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
How does KCP compare with current Ariza?


Ariza is up there in age. Its close but I think Ariza is still better. Going forward KCP is probably going to surpass him soon.


I think Ariza will be a Laker after the suns buy him out in February.

Why would they buy him out when they just paid him 15 mil?


February. When PHX will be tanking and Ariza asks for a buyout.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:45 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
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yinoma2001 wrote:
nickuku wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
How does KCP compare with current Ariza?


Ariza is up there in age. Its close but I think Ariza is still better. Going forward KCP is probably going to surpass him soon.


I think Ariza will be a Laker after the suns buy him out in February.

Why would they buy him out when they just paid him 15 mil?


February. When PHX will be tanking and Ariza asks for a buyout.


I'd love to sign Ariza if the Suns were to buy him out. Not just for nostalgic reasons (it'll be ten years since the 2009 Finals), but he's the perfect veteran that can defend and stretch the floor. I definitely think we'll be in the conversation for him, Carmelo, Tyson Chandler and other buyout candidates come next February.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:47 pm    Post subject:

Are we even talking about how this guy turned down a 5 year/80mill deal two years ago from the Pistons? Dude should've fired his agent. Oh wait, that's Lebron's agent. Nevermind, great move.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:58 pm    Post subject:

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Are we even talking about how this guy turned down a 5 year/80mill deal two years ago from the Pistons? Dude should've fired his agent. Oh wait, that's Lebron's agent. Nevermind, great move.

Nerlens Noel also turned down 70M from the Mavs. Also LeBron's agent. Dont know if he had the same agent at the time though.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:52 pm    Post subject:

KCP @ 12 mil is a sweet deal!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:57 pm    Post subject:

pio2u wrote:
KCP @ 12 mil is a sweet deal!!


Were paying Deng $18 mill to sit on the bench for crying out loud

Everyone take off yourr 2K19 GM hats and get realistic.

Having him back for $12 mill while other players who are older and less productive are getting paid slightly more, shows he took a fair market offer.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:59 pm    Post subject:

dcarter4kobe wrote:
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Are we even talking about how this guy turned down a 5 year/80mill deal two years ago from the Pistons? Dude should've fired his agent. Oh wait, that's Lebron's agent. Nevermind, great move.

Nerlens Noel also turned down 70M from the Mavs. Also LeBron's agent. Dont know if he had the same agent at the time though.


Mavs dodged a bullet on that 1
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:24 pm    Post subject:

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Were paying Deng $18 mill to sit on the bench for crying out loud


I don't think he even sits on the bench anymore. Either that or he's become so irrelevant to me he's invisible.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:37 pm    Post subject:

KCP is a good, young player. Would I rather see Josh Hart out there? Of course, but that’s the price you pay for getting Lebron on the team. 2 years/20m for Mana from Heaven. Now let’s hope he doesn’t feel the need to play hero ball and have Kobe escort his family away...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:44 am    Post subject:

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I thought KCP was pretty good after the jail thing.

I expect him to be key contributor this season. He has the tools.


I generally agree but his shot selection (at least last season) was horrible.

He is going to have to tighten up his game and play more efficiently for me to be completely on board.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:41 am    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:42 am    Post subject:

LakerLanny wrote:
LakerSD wrote:
I thought KCP was pretty good after the jail thing.

I expect him to be key contributor this season. He has the tools.


I generally agree but his shot selection (at least last season) was horrible.

He is going to have to tighten up his game and play more efficiently for me to be completely on board.


Yeah that’s a good point. He’s pretty good when efficient.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:46 am    Post subject:

Remember at his first press conference and they asked him whether he was excited to be a part of the Lakers and he basically said, "eh?"
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:46 am    Post subject:

It's official. Welcome back!
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