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RI Laker Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:45 am Post subject: |
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GoldenThroat wrote: | We are not, but KCP is a good signing. |
I think you guys are talking about two different kinds of legit. I think the poster is right that we will be a much improved team and will potentially win 10 + games this year. I believe you are correct in term of us being legit as far as the totality of the league. |
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E_Wulf420 Star Player
Joined: 06 Jan 2014 Posts: 1075 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:54 am Post subject: |
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If you think about it, Every starter has a chance to make the all star team, although its very difficult in the west. IF:
Lonzo averages 14/8
KCP averages 18ppg
Ingram averages 18ppg
Randle averages 18/10
Brook averages 20/8
The first half of the season would have to be perfect but its possible with all the Laker fans voting. _________________
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la4win Star Player
Joined: 27 Mar 2010 Posts: 2239
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:55 am Post subject: |
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If Deng earns 1/4th of his check this year, we will be legit for sure. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:56 am Post subject: |
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I doubt Ingram/Randle/KCP will average 18ppg each. Not sure Lonzo will break double digit PPG, though I can see him averaging 6-7apg. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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ringfinger Retired Number
Joined: 08 Oct 2013 Posts: 29418
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:57 am Post subject: |
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E_Wulf420 wrote: | If you think about it, Every starter has a chance to make the all star team, although its very difficult in the west. IF:
Lonzo averages 14/8
KCP averages 18ppg
Ingram averages 18ppg
Randle averages 18/10
Brook averages 20/8
The first half of the season would have to be perfect but its possible with all the Laker fans voting. |
With that logic, every team has a chance for their whole starting unti to make the ASG. |
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LandsbergerRules Franchise Player
Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 11197 Location: The Other Perspective
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:00 am Post subject: |
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If legit means we're a 30+win team, yes. If legit means we're a playoff team, no. _________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him |
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governator Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:21 am Post subject: |
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Brook Lopez-KCP led team plus young studs... most likely wins in 30s, hoping for a 40+win season and a playoff spot, 8th, take on GS and get these puppies paws wet |
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HOF Rookie Star Player
Joined: 09 Jun 2015 Posts: 1717
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:28 am Post subject: |
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E_Wulf420 wrote: | If you think about it, Every starter has a chance to make the all star team, although its very difficult in the west. IF:
Lonzo averages 14/8
KCP averages 18ppg
Ingram averages 18ppg
Randle averages 18/10
Brook averages 20/8
The first half of the season would have to be perfect but its possible with all the Laker fans voting. |
Take it easy homer |
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hydrohead Star Player
Joined: 14 Jul 2003 Posts: 4108 Location: Space City
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:28 am Post subject: |
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We have legit players. We are not a legit team.
We will still need to show that the team will function as a cohesive defensive unit.
We will still need to the play on the court to elevate the performance.
this will be the challenge for Luke and every player. And having players on expiring contacts could help, but may bring a level of selfish play that may hurt. _________________ Darvin |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:38 am Post subject: |
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LandsbergerRules wrote: | If legit means we're a 30+win team, yes. If legit means we're a playoff team, no. |
Haha. There's no such thing as a legit 30-win team.
I would consider a legit team, to be one where the best teams have to take seriously. GSW can still beat us with their eyes closed, as can Houston, OKC, CLE, and a number of other teams. |
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LakersRGolden Star Player
Joined: 13 Jan 2002 Posts: 7922 Location: Lake Forest
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:39 am Post subject: |
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RI Laker wrote: | GoldenThroat wrote: | We are not, but KCP is a good signing. |
I think you guys are talking about two different kinds of legit. I think the poster is right that we will be a much improved team and will potentially win 10 + games this year. I believe you are correct in term of us being legit as far as the totality of the league. |
Well, just by changing our approach from last year and playing our best 2,3 and 5 we should win at least 30. Roster improvements will determine how far above that we get. |
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Sina Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:53 am Post subject: |
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Lopez is a maure player. Project: 12/6
KCP is ready or close to ready. Project: 16/4
Randle needs 1-2 more year to be ready or close to ready. 14/8
Ingram needs 2-3 more years to be a scorer. Project: 16/5
Ball is still a rookie. Project: 6/6
We have 3 legit starters and two rising stars. Lopez will be limited by playing time since we want to play more uptempo style small. Ingram and Ball will be controlled at 28-30 and 25-28 minutes per game respectively to prevent injuries.
Our bench are very deep but inexperienced. JC, Nwaba, Brewer and Nance could led the way while Zubac, Kuzma, Hart could get playing time as the season progress.
35 wins thought |
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Lakerpark Star Player
Joined: 09 Nov 2002 Posts: 2117
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:55 am Post subject: |
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Now that the Lakers have some legit talent, I am kind of wondering about Luke's coaching or offense.
Last season, to me it seemed like a lot of iso or one on one...Lou, Clarkson, Randle, DLO.
Or else a bunch of bad (inconsistent) shooting: Deng, Brewer, Mozgov, Randle, Nance, Robinson and DLo, Clarkson and MWP sometimes.
Or guys who were afraid to shoot: Nance, Nwaba
At the start of the season I envisioned a lot of quick passing like the Warriors team does.
Was it the coaching or the players? No talent or guys not listening to the coach or a not so great offensive scheme? |
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Chase.button07 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:57 am Post subject: |
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LandsbergerRules wrote: | Losing DLo, Lou, and Swaggy is a helluva lot of scoring and outside shooting to make for. |
All 3 who played 0 defense.
I don't worry about the shooting _________________ Now Playing: The Zo Show @Staples |
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Chase.button07 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:58 am Post subject: |
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Also like yin said what's legit? _________________ Now Playing: The Zo Show @Staples |
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ringfinger Retired Number
Joined: 08 Oct 2013 Posts: 29418
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:00 am Post subject: |
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Chase.button07 wrote: | Also like yin said what's legit? |
Feels like the "we're all winners" kind of thing tbh. |
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CervantesRises Star Player
Joined: 18 Jun 2016 Posts: 3918
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:06 am Post subject: |
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LakersNewEra wrote: | I think Lonzo will inflate everyone's stats.
I see Lopez as a 22-24 ppg scorer for us and I think Randle, KCP and possibly Ingram will all average over 15 ppg.
Then there's also Clarkson, Nance, Zubac, Brewer, Deng...
That is legit. That team can contend for a playoff spot and possiblu win 38-42 games IMO. |
Clippers...Utah...Dallas all took major steps back.
Minnesota took a major step forward. Denver will keep trending up.
I'm not convinced the Clippers and Utah are playoff locks at this point.
We look like the 8 to 10th best roster in the west because we have to rely on 2 rookies and 2 2nd year players to seriously contribute. _________________ "If You're Afraid To Fail...Then You're Probably Going To Fail."
- Kobe
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Joined: 04 Nov 2009 Posts: 73063
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:20 am Post subject: |
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I would say we are more like a whole team now. We have a starting lineup where the pieces fit. We still have a young and inexperienced team. _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
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oldlakerfan Star Player
Joined: 15 May 2001 Posts: 2146 Location: Tega Cay, South Carolina
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:23 am Post subject: |
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We have legit talent at every position.
We have depth at every position, especially if we sign Rondo
We have a lot of player who can play position less basketball
Questions:
Lots of developing youth
Outside Shooting
Defense
If we play good defense Lakers can be a good team.
If we play good defense and develop some good outside shooting we can be a playoff team. |
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LakerMindLA Star Player
Joined: 26 Dec 2008 Posts: 5344
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:28 am Post subject: |
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We've gone from winning under 25 games to over 25 games. Winning more than 30 will still be tough. |
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laker50 Star Player
Joined: 07 Mar 2014 Posts: 2140
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:44 am Post subject: |
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Magic and Rob have made the Lakers into a legit team.
Going to contend for 8th playoff spot.
Lopez close to all star center
Randle contract year, has to show he can shoot everything else
is there
Ingram star in the making
KCP missing piece
Ball assist guy
bench
Clarkson valuable off bench
nance energy guy
hart solid
Kuzma can hit the 3
Nwaba solid defender
Brewer ok second string
Deng belongs second string and way overpaid
Maybe bring in Caruso?
Spots are still open |
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ingle Starting Rotation
Joined: 17 Mar 2017 Posts: 960
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:46 am Post subject: |
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44TheLogo Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:52 am Post subject: |
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I think 32-35 wins is totally reasonable based on roster talent. But that's not going to be close to a playoff spot in the west and might still be bottom 3 or 4.
The roster has NBA talent at every position now, that's certain. The question that needs to be answered now is...is Luke Walton actually a good coach? Because this roster under a Rick Carlisle, Erik Spoelstra... _________________ substance over style |
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2019 Franchise Player
Joined: 03 Dec 2014 Posts: 10805
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:54 am Post subject: |
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I don't know what legit means but we're certainly improved.
If we win 32+ games, I'll be satisfied. It shows improvement and trajectory.If we win 40+ I'd be thrilled, though I don't see this as likely. My guess is we win 30-35.
Randle, IMO, is the key here. People talk about Brook's 20 a game, or Ingram's substantial improvement, or the new 'face of the franchise' but in reality, this is Julius' team this coming season. He's the one who needs to be the emotional leader and bring the level of intensity that can carry us to overachieve.
Ironically, who knows how long he'll be here. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:22 am Post subject: |
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Yes, a legit 36 win team. Up from the 32 I was expecting before. Rejoice Laker fans, we might only lose 45 games this season. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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