Zublocka vs TMamba

Lakerpark · Star Player Joined: 09 Nov 2002 Posts: 2117

Brook is the starting center.

I gotta admit, I really was loving Zubac's successes last season and was really rooting for him.

But Thomas Bryant so far seems to have a higher ceiling IMO. TBryant is quicker, probably has a slightly better outside shot and just seems much more active than Zubac.

Quicker with a long wing span is probably better than just being tall, right?

If for some reason Lopez becomes a longer term option, I wonder if Zu gets traded and what could he fetch?

What do you all think?

danzag · Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:35 am Post subject:

Bryant never played a NBA game. He doesn't have any advantage over Zubac right now.

Lakerpark · Star Player Joined: 09 Nov 2002 Posts: 2117

ringfinger · Retired Number Joined: 08 Oct 2013 Posts: 29418

Zubac has been off but still better than Thomas Bryant.

Gimme_the_rock · Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:51 am Post subject:

Zubac will round into form eventually. Disappointed that he didn't take an off season regimen like Randle did given Magic's body fat % mandate. He'd look slow enough out there even being in shape so he looked like thick molasses the first few. 3 rebounds against the Sixers??? You can see how he's dropped a lot of weight from game 1 till now and that presupposes he put some of the lbs he lost during the season back on between April and now.

I think Bryant should be getting more minutes in SPL than he's currently being given but maybe they're committed to helping Zu get back into game shape. What I do know is that while TB is not yet ready, he's got a lot of tools to come for Zu's job later, especially if the current trend continues. TB is ALL energy and has a very sweet stroke.
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rebirth · Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:18 am Post subject:

Not sure what is up with ZU so far but he is definitely off. Not at all the same player he showed to be last year.
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pio2u · Retired Number Joined: 26 Dec 2012 Posts: 54647

T-Bryant will push Zu. Bryant is a good prospect but right now Zu is probably the better player because of his experience.
With further time and development, in both, the Lakers will be in a good position. The FO will also have some interesting decisions to make.

Laker_Town · Retired Number Joined: 26 Jun 2006 Posts: 25604

Bryant got brick feet and hands. Zu looks like hes getting used to lonzo and the ball being passed around.

Hes clearly off, but I think has the better hands of the two.

2019 · Franchise Player Joined: 03 Dec 2014 Posts: 10831

IMO, Zu is just trying to hard. It's in his head to be the best player out there and as a result it's causing some hiccups in his game.

DanielKetch · Starting Rotation Joined: 23 Jun 2017 Posts: 323

both of them play like they are wearing ankle weights... even though bryant has good energy, he barely gets up off the floor and usually gets by purely on his standing reach...

definitely should be an area of focus with our strength and conditioning coaches.

also zu over bryant right now, but look for nance and randle to spend some time at small ball center...

DoubleClutch · Star Player Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Posts: 2712 Location: Town

I think Zu's IQ and more rounded skill set make him the better prospect. He's looked like doodoo but I think he will get it together once the regular season comes around. SL is not a great setting for his game.

That said, I do like TB and hope he can continue to improve his court awareness.
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Thugnomoe · Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:42 am Post subject:

yeah.. Zu has regressed.. I swear.. he was better last year in summer league.

Zu just seems old and slow.. thank the lord we have lopez.

Bryant seems to have huge upside.

governator · Retired Number Joined: 28 Jan 2006 Posts: 25092

Zu has the higher ceiling, he showed a possible starting C material last season. T.Bryant has the emotion and hustle but back up potential for now

h2omike · Star Player Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 2811

I think the draft shows the Lakers are keeping all their options open

Bryant could play Zubac spot

Kuz. Could play the Nance, Randle or Deng spot

Hart could play the Clarkson spot

Lots of room to tweak the roster for the future

CRoost · Star Player Joined: 21 Mar 2017 Posts: 4801

Zu just have a hard time keeping up with the pace. With all the running and gunning, he's step slower on every play. I believed Zu is the better player but Bryant is the better fit. We will see how Zu can adjust but it's not looking good for him so far.

venturalakersfan · Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:19 am Post subject:

I wonder how many minutes Lopez will play and how many will be available for a backup center taking into account small ball minutes? I had assumed that Bryant would get significant time in the G League and am not sure that has changed.
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Doc JC · Star Player Joined: 02 May 2012 Posts: 3123

Quite frankly neither has shown well enough to get minutes over Nance, which is who's going to need to play C if we are gonna get Kuzma on the court. That's the trade off IMO. Unless Walton just plans to sit Deng for the season, our backup frontline is Kuz/Deng/Nance.

LakersRGolden · Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:52 am Post subject:

pio2u · Retired Number Joined: 26 Dec 2012 Posts: 54647

I like him but Zu has lead feet.

defense · Retired Number Joined: 12 Jan 2010 Posts: 39612

If you guys hate Zubac because he's slow wait till you get a load of brook.

They are actually very similar. Brook being a seasoned vet with good scoring abilities. I wouldn't be shocked if Luke plays brook less than 30 minutes a game. Anyway to answer you're question I think Zubac is the superior basketball player. Maybe Bryant is better for the 3 point shooting style most teams are playing.

Hector the Pup · Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:56 pm Post subject:

They're both what. 20? Both completely different players. Pie in the sky upside for one is Marc gasol. For the other it's deandre Jordan with a 3 ball. Do everything possible to develop both.

They signed zu to a 3 year deal just in case. They left enough cap space after signing kcp to do the same with Bryant. Lose on both and it's nothing. Hit on one it's a score. Hit on both and you have some serious juice.

AY2043 · Franchise Player Joined: 26 Feb 2012 Posts: 10621

Zubac regressed big time, but still looked better than TB.

I think Bryant may be better in time, but definitely not now.

TooMuchMajicBuss · Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:16 pm Post subject:

socalsp3 · Star Player Joined: 07 Jul 2016 Posts: 3504

Zubac is a very poor mans BLo. If you have to pull BLo to match footspeed do you put in a slower guy in Zubac? TB gives you change of pace and helps you with matchups BLo can't handle.