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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:12 am    Post subject:

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Side note, Thomas looks to be one of the better shooters we have. Hope we can get him on the Defenders at least.


For the Iife of me I can't seem to find the stats per game averages for players on the NBA.com Summer League page. Anyone know where it is to check out these guys SL stats?


http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2017/stats#vegas


Thanks. Sucks they don't show all the stats like 3p% and only have it listed as league leaders but not have a breakdown of teams. Wanna see how Matt Thomas, Travis Wear are averaging in 3p%
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:25 am    Post subject:

I doubt they change their mind and let Ingram play tonight. Magic (our royal sideline court jester) would just give Jud the slash throat and "he's safe" gestures again.

Would be nice to see both Lonzo and Hart play if they have recovered from their ailments. We'll need good games from both Zu and Bryant as well to counteract their bigs.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:29 am    Post subject:

Man, this would be a good opportunity to just see BI/Lonzo show star potential and a close out/killer instinct. It's SPL, but you rarely get these kinds of opportunities this young.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:34 am    Post subject:

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Man, this would be a good opportunity to just see BI/Lonzo show star potential and a close out/killer instinct. It's SPL, but you rarely get these kinds of opportunities this young.


Paul George is watching every single Lakers SPL game too, he even tweeted about it a few days ago. LeBron even saw Lonzo live.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:38 am    Post subject:

This is a meaningless game. I hope they hold Ball out. No need to risk injury.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:41 am    Post subject:

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Sucks they don't show all the stats like 3p% and only have it listed as league leaders but not have a breakdown of teams. Wanna see how Matt Thomas, Travis Wear are averaging in 3p%


Thomas:

http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Matt-Thomas/Summary/56884

Wear (have to scroll down for SPL stats as he has actual NBA stats as well):

http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Travis-Wear/Summary/2208
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:44 am    Post subject:

This game is more meaningful than any regular season game we will play this year.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:47 am    Post subject:

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Sucks they don't show all the stats like 3p% and only have it listed as league leaders but not have a breakdown of teams. Wanna see how Matt Thomas, Travis Wear are averaging in 3p%


Thomas:

http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Matt-Thomas/Summary/56884

Wear (have to scroll down for SPL stats as he has actual NBA stats as well):

http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Travis-Wear/Summary/2208


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:48 am    Post subject:

Who's responsible if he plays and gets hurt?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:51 am    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:00 am    Post subject:

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Who's responsible if he plays and gets hurt?

I can't remember where I heard or read it but a couple entities (trainer/coach/Magic?) were going to make a decision Monday morning based on how he looks. I imagine the buck stops with Magic "Buck" Johnson.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:00 am    Post subject:

If there is no real tissue damage, both Ingram and Ball should be available to play. I don't see how this game is any different from playing a hard scrimmage in practice. Ball's style is very efficient and almost effortless, if you wanted to be cautious, you could just have him run the floor, tell him not drive to the rim that much and even sag and play more of a zone on defense. I don't get why they were worried about Ingram at all unless he has a worse injury that they don't want public... or they wanted him leaving on a high, and let the league worry about him all summer.

Let's hope they win... we need to instill that mystique and winning mentality of the Ball Movement.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:09 am    Post subject:

This is a meaningless game. It's a summer league game. You don't jeopardize your franchise player's health if there is any doubt. For selfish reasons I hope he plays but if he doesn't I can understand why.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:11 am    Post subject:

^Yeah, if there's no real damage, let them play, and there's no responsibility to give if someone gets hurt. Part of the game. And I agree that there is some psychological significance to winning Summer League with the "Ball Movement."
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:11 am    Post subject:

This game ain't meaningless IMO. Not if we're about winning again as an organization.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:14 am    Post subject:

32 wrote:
This is a meaningless game. It's a summer league game. You don't jeopardize your franchise player's health if there is any doubt. For selfish reasons I hope he plays but if he doesn't I can understand why.


If he says he's fine then just let him play. Guys can get injured in these meaningless games just as they can get injured in meaningless practices just as they can get injured in meaningless bowling games (Bynum). You can't put bubble wrap around these guys and protect them 24/7.
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This is a meaningless game. It's a summer league game. You don't jeopardize your franchise player's health if there is any doubt. For selfish reasons I hope he plays but if he doesn't I can understand why.

Well I believe that is part of the decision making process. If there is any doubt I'm sure they keep him out. If he plays then he has been given a "clean bill" of health. So, I leave it up to those close to the situation and will not second-guess them on that.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:14 am    Post subject:

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And I agree that there is some psychological significance to winning Summer League with the "Ball Movement."


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:15 am    Post subject:

At the chance of your franchise player getting injured. Yeah let's go out there and win that all important summer league title.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:17 am    Post subject:

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This is a meaningless game. It's a summer league game. You don't jeopardize your franchise player's health if there is any doubt. For selfish reasons I hope he plays but if he doesn't I can understand why.

Well I believe that is part of the decision making process. If there is any doubt I'm sure they keep him out. If he plays then he has been given a "clean bill" of health. So, I leave it up to those close to the situation and will not second-guess them on that.


Absolutely. I think training staff will do all they can to get him ready to play. With his competitive nature I am sure he wants to be out there. I will trust the medical professionals on this one.
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This is a meaningless game. It's a summer league game. You don't jeopardize your franchise player's health if there is any doubt. For selfish reasons I hope he plays but if he doesn't I can understand why.


If he says he's fine then just let him play. Guys can get injured in these meaningless games just as they can get injured in meaningless practices just as they can get injured in meaningless bowling games (Bynum). You can't put bubble wrap around these guys and protect them 24/7.


Yeah but he already has a calf strain, It's up to the training staff on this one.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:20 am    Post subject:

It's not like we are a playoff team this year - for the Lakers as a franchise it is chip or bust and this is our chance to win a chip this year.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:26 am    Post subject:

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At the chance of your franchise player getting injured. Yeah let's go out there and win that all important summer league title.


According to Jud he's been playing with the strained calf all SL.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:26 am    Post subject:

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This game ain't meaningless IMO. Not if we're about winning again as an organization.


Have to agree. This is NOT a meaningless game.
More important than any game played since Kobe retired.

A change in possible shift in the mindset of the organization.
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