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ContagiousInspiration
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| vanexelent wrote: | | Quote: | | Both cops should be put on UNPAID leave |
Police Unions would never allow this to happen in any city. |
I only want it as punishment for every single officer who goes
into action and doesn't turn on his/her camera or audio recording device
I can only think of a couple legitimate reasons for not turning it on
Too (bleep) dumb to be a protector of the peace
Knowingly planning to cover something up
Unprepared for duty
They murdered basically a good Samaritan who
was looking out for others
She is dead and these rejects can't even provide
her husband a story he will ever trust and
they have tarnished the badge again.. |
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ContagiousInspiration
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:09 am Post subject: |
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The Police chiefs need to start receiving punishment
for cops who don't turn on these devices.
Maybe they will stop hiring unqualified people |
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Aeneas Hunter
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:18 am Post subject: |
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| angrypuppy wrote: | | The low level of outrage over this killing speaks volumes as to the fractured state of our society. The victim was a white Australian, the cop was a black Somali Muslim, hence no Black Lives Matter or Blue Lives Matter involvement. |
Sadly, there is truth in this. There is also the fact that it seems so weird. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:30 am Post subject: |
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I'm in favor of waiting for a complete investigation before rushing to judgment.
The media representation indicates a mistake took the life of a person. What's different in this shooting so far, no victim character assassination.
I'd like to see the record of the officer. I know the department won't allow it to be made public. I believe it's departmental rules.
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DuncanIdaho
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:48 am Post subject: |
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| ContagiousInspiration wrote: | The Police chiefs need to start receiving punishment
for cops who don't turn on these devices.
Maybe they will stop hiring unqualified people |
The police chiefs follow a different set of rules than their underlings. Haven't you been following the drama with the Denver PD?
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Aeneas Hunter
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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^^^^
I do not recall ever seeing anyone prosecuted for mishandling an open records request. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | ^^^^
I do not recall ever seeing anyone prosecuted for mishandling an open records request. |
I have several friends at the lower management level in the Denver PD/SD, and let's just say people are NOT happy with the brass. Upper management is definitely in "do what we say, not what we do" mode. How do they expect the rank and file to follow the rules when they themselves do not? |
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Aeneas Hunter
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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| DuncanIdaho wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | ^^^^
I do not recall ever seeing anyone prosecuted for mishandling an open records request. |
I have several friends at the lower management level in the Denver PD/SD, and let's just say people are NOT happy with the brass. Upper management is definitely in "do what we say, not what we do" mode. How do they expect the rank and file to follow the rules when they themselves do not? |
Yeah, I can see why your friends are pissed. I'm just saying that open records issues are rarely if ever the subject of criminal proceedings. |
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Krispy Kreme
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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im sure he "feared for his life" and "thought the woman was going for a gun".
he'll get a slap on the wrist for not having his camera on, and that will be that.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Krispy Kreme wrote: | im sure he "feared for his life" and "thought the woman was going for a gun".
he'll get a slap on the wrist for not having his camera on, and that will be that. |
Well as long as they're consistent.  |
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| Krispy Kreme wrote: | im sure he "feared for his life" and "thought the woman was going for a gun".
he'll get a slap on the wrist for not having his camera on, and that will be that. |
Are police required to have their body cams turned on when they're inside their vehicles?
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| numero-ocho wrote: | | Krispy Kreme wrote: | im sure he "feared for his life" and "thought the woman was going for a gun".
he'll get a slap on the wrist for not having his camera on, and that will be that. |
Are police required to have their body cams turned on when they're inside their vehicles? |
I think so. I believe they're supposed to turn them on while enroute to service calls such as the one these officers were answering.
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| jodeke wrote: | I'm in favor of waiting for a complete investigation before rushing to judgment.
The media representation indicates a mistake took the life of a person. What's different in this shooting so far, no victim character assassination.
I'd like to see the record of the officer. I know the department won't allow it to be made public. I believe it's departmental rules. |
you think it's cause the victim is white? |
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| governator wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | I'm in favor of waiting for a complete investigation before rushing to judgment.
The media representation indicates a mistake took the life of a person. What's different in this shooting so far, no victim character assassination.
I'd like to see the record of the officer. I know the department won't allow it to be made public. I believe it's departmental rules. |
you think it's cause the victim is white? |
NO I think it's because she's squeaky clean.
3 strikes against the officer.
1) She's White
2) She's squeaky clean
3) He's Muslim
If he gets away with this shooting NONE of us are safe.
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Let's see what happens when the cops kill and unarmed white woman,
(Since the OP chose to make this a racist thread):
I am guessing there will be no African-American protesting this killing...
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| unleasHell wrote: | Let's see what happens when the cops kill and unarmed white woman,
(Since the OP chose to make this a racist thread):
I am guessing there will be no African-American protesting this killing... |
Come on, man. |
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| unleasHell wrote: | Let's see what happens when the cops kill and unarmed white woman,
(Since the OP chose to make this a racist thread):
I am guessing there will be no African-American protesting this killing... |
Nope. You took care of that.
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| unleasHell wrote: | Let's see what happens when the cops kill and unarmed white woman,
(Since the OP chose to make this a racist thread):
I am guessing there will be no African-American protesting this killing... |
Did you even read the initial article in the OP?
| Quote: | Nekima Levy-Pounds, a local civil rights attorney and police reform activist who is running for mayor of Minneapolis, expressed solidarity over Damond’s death.
“We stand with the people of Australia in demanding justice for Justine Damond,” Levy-Pounds said. “Her death could have been prevented. Were it not for the increasing militarisation of US police forces, she would still be alive today.”
Levy-Pounds, who was a leading figure in protests against the police killings of unarmed black men Jamar Clarke and Philando Castile, said Damond was the latest casualty of a “flawed system of policing”. |
I'll let you guess what race Levy-Pounds is. |
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| DuncanIdaho wrote: | | unleasHell wrote: | Let's see what happens when the cops kill and unarmed white woman,
(Since the OP chose to make this a racist thread):
I am guessing there will be no African-American protesting this killing... |
Did you even read the initial article in the OP?
| Quote: | Nekima Levy-Pounds, a local civil rights attorney and police reform activist who is running for mayor of Minneapolis, expressed solidarity over Damond’s death.
“We stand with the people of Australia in demanding justice for Justine Damond,” Levy-Pounds said. “Her death could have been prevented. Were it not for the increasing militarisation of US police forces, she would still be alive today.”
Levy-Pounds, who was a leading figure in protests against the police killings of unarmed black men Jamar Clarke and Philando Castile, said Damond was the latest casualty of a “flawed system of policing”. |
I'll let you guess what race Levy-Pounds is. |
Let not keep him/her in suspense. Nekima Levy-Pounds | Quote: | | Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt. |
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | unleasHell wrote: | Let's see what happens when the cops kill and unarmed white woman,
(Since the OP chose to make this a racist thread):
I am guessing there will be no African-American protesting this killing... |
Nope. You took care of that. |
That's a little unfair as unless you are going to qualify why you worded the topic in that fashion then I can see why his response is what it is. |
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| The Thief wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | unleasHell wrote: | Let's see what happens when the cops kill and unarmed white woman,
(Since the OP chose to make this a racist thread):
I am guessing there will be no African-American protesting this killing... |
Nope. You took care of that. |
That's a little unfair as unless you are going to qualify why you worded the topic in that fashion then I can see why his response is what it is. |
I simply stated that we had something very out of the norm for police shootings in regards to demographics and expressed interest in how that difference would play out. Nothing even remotely "racist" about it.
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | The Thief wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | unleasHell wrote: | Let's see what happens when the cops kill and unarmed white woman,
(Since the OP chose to make this a racist thread):
I am guessing there will be no African-American protesting this killing... |
Nope. You took care of that. |
That's a little unfair as unless you are going to qualify why you worded the topic in that fashion then I can see why his response is what it is. |
I simply stated that we had something very out of the norm for police shootings in regards to demographics and expressed interest in how that difference would play out. Nothing even remotely "racist" about it. |
Perception, Perception, Perception,
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| DuncanIdaho wrote: | | unleasHell wrote: | Let's see what happens when the cops kill and unarmed white woman,
(Since the OP chose to make this a racist thread):
I am guessing there will be no African-American protesting this killing... |
Did you even read the initial article in the OP?
| Quote: | Nekima Levy-Pounds, a local civil rights attorney and police reform activist who is running for mayor of Minneapolis, expressed solidarity over Damond’s death.
“We stand with the people of Australia in demanding justice for Justine Damond,” Levy-Pounds said. “Her death could have been prevented. Were it not for the increasing militarisation of US police forces, she would still be alive today.”
Levy-Pounds, who was a leading figure in protests against the police killings of unarmed black men Jamar Clarke and Philando Castile, said Damond was the latest casualty of a “flawed system of policing”. |
I'll let you guess what race Levy-Pounds is. |
Minneapolis Police Chief Resigns Days After Fatal Police Shooting Of Justine Damond
Protesters took over a press conference and demanded that the mayor go next.
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| jodeke wrote: | | DuncanIdaho wrote: | | unleasHell wrote: | Let's see what happens when the cops kill and unarmed white woman,
(Since the OP chose to make this a racist thread):
I am guessing there will be no African-American protesting this killing... |
Did you even read the initial article in the OP?
| Quote: | Nekima Levy-Pounds, a local civil rights attorney and police reform activist who is running for mayor of Minneapolis, expressed solidarity over Damond’s death.
“We stand with the people of Australia in demanding justice for Justine Damond,” Levy-Pounds said. “Her death could have been prevented. Were it not for the increasing militarisation of US police forces, she would still be alive today.”
Levy-Pounds, who was a leading figure in protests against the police killings of unarmed black men Jamar Clarke and Philando Castile, said Damond was the latest casualty of a “flawed system of policing”. |
I'll let you guess what race Levy-Pounds is. |
Let not keep him/her in suspense. Nekima Levy-Pounds | Quote: | | Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt. |
Abraham Linclon/Mark Twain |
#BlackLivesMatter activists lead solidarity march through Minneapolis for #JustineDamond, #PhilandoCastile and others killed by police |
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | DuncanIdaho wrote: | | unleasHell wrote: | Let's see what happens when the cops kill and unarmed white woman,
(Since the OP chose to make this a racist thread):
I am guessing there will be no African-American protesting this killing... |
Did you even read the initial article in the OP?
| Quote: | Nekima Levy-Pounds, a local civil rights attorney and police reform activist who is running for mayor of Minneapolis, expressed solidarity over Damond’s death.
“We stand with the people of Australia in demanding justice for Justine Damond,” Levy-Pounds said. “Her death could have been prevented. Were it not for the increasing militarisation of US police forces, she would still be alive today.”
Levy-Pounds, who was a leading figure in protests against the police killings of unarmed black men Jamar Clarke and Philando Castile, said Damond was the latest casualty of a “flawed system of policing”. |
I'll let you guess what race Levy-Pounds is. |
Minneapolis Police Chief Resigns Days After Fatal Police Shooting Of Justine Damond
Protesters took over a press conference and demanded that the mayor go next. |
I'd say this answers your question relating to demographics. Acquit Jeronimo Yanez (police officer) ask Janee Harteau (police chief) to resign.
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