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Annihilator Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:13 am Post subject: Official NBA's KIA Rookie Ladder. Lakers finish Summer League with Ball at #1 and Kuzma at #3 |
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KIA Rookie Ladder
The NBA's KIA Rookie Ladder has two Lakers among the top three: Ball at #1 and Kuzma at #3. With two players currently ranked so high, it should be fun to track it the entire 2017-18 season.
Interestingly enough, the author states that the only reason that Kuzma was not an first team all-tournament was that the voting happened before the championship game.
The list on July 18 was Ball, Tatum, Kuzma, J. Collins, Swanigan, DSJ, Mitchell, Adebayo, Kennard, and Jackson. _________________ “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”
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Gellollo Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:29 am Post subject: Re: NBA's KIA Rookie Ladder finishes Summer League with Ball at #1 and Kuzma at #3 |
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Annihilator wrote: | KIA Rookie Ladder
The NBA's KIA Rookie Ladder has two Lakers among the top three: Ball at #1 and Kuzma at #3. Maglinka has started off very strong.
Interestingly enough, the author states that the only reason that Kuzma was not an first team all-tournament was that the voting happened before the championship game.
The list was Ball, Tatum, Kuzma, J. Collins, Swanigan, DSJ, Mitchell, Adebayo, Kennard and Jackson. |
I'm surprised Tatum didn't get 1st team either. But then again, I only watched the games with the Lakers. I'm hearing good things from this John Collins guy from ATL
Back on topic, I'm psyched for Lonzo and Kuzma. It would be funny if Kuzma ends up being ROTY over Ball. |
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lordtrapula Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:40 am Post subject: Re: NBA's KIA Rookie Ladder finishes Summer League with Ball at #1 and Kuzma at #3 |
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Gellollo wrote: | Annihilator wrote: | KIA Rookie Ladder
The NBA's KIA Rookie Ladder has two Lakers among the top three: Ball at #1 and Kuzma at #3. Maglinka has started off very strong.
Interestingly enough, the author states that the only reason that Kuzma was not an first team all-tournament was that the voting happened before the championship game.
The list was Ball, Tatum, Kuzma, J. Collins, Swanigan, DSJ, Mitchell, Adebayo, Kennard and Jackson. |
I'm surprised Tatum didn't get 1st team either. But then again, I only watched the games with the Lakers. I'm hearing good things from this John Collins guy from ATL
Back on topic, I'm psyched for Lonzo and Kuzma. It would be funny if Kuzma ends up being ROTY over Ball. |
hehe I'd be cool with CO-ROTY's ala Hill/Kidd in 1995 |
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TheKing23 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:40 am Post subject: |
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Tatum is kinda overrated by the media, he seems like Melo lite to me |
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MJST Retired Number
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Randle30 wrote: | Tatum is kinda overrated by the media, he seems like Melo lite to me |
And no one would complain about Melo had he been drafted by the Pistons before the 2004 season. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:12 am Post subject: |
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The ranking seems about right this time. I knew Zo & Kuz were trending upward.
Personally I would take Kuzma over Tatum (but that's just me) |
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justsomelakerfan Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:13 am Post subject: |
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If you guys want to feel sad take a look at who else has won Summer League Finals MVP |
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K2 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:20 am Post subject: |
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justsomelakerfan wrote: | If you guys want to feel sad take a look at who else has won Summer League Finals MVP |
John Wall, Blake Griffin, Damian Lillard also won MVP. It's a good start for Lonzo, he knows there's a lot of work ahead. |
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justsomelakerfan Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:21 am Post subject: |
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K2 wrote: | justsomelakerfan wrote: | If you guys want to feel sad take a look at who else has won Summer League Finals MVP |
John Wall, Blake Griffin, Damian Lillard also won MVP. It's a good start for Lonzo, he knows there's a lot of work ahead. |
Oh no I was talking about Finals MVP for Kuzma, it's healthy to take a step back and realize the competition level all the same:
Jerian Grant, Jonathan Simmons, Ray McCallum, Ian Clark |
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WestwoodWizard Sixth Man
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:53 am Post subject: |
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justsomelakerfan wrote: | If you guys want to feel sad take a look at who else has won Summer League Finals MVP |
Maybe not feel sad, but certainly feel a bit more grounded in reality. Kuzma had a fantastic summer league, but he is not going to step into the NBA and start scoring 20+ per night. It will take him, and all of the rookies, some time to adjust to the high level of competition. That said, it sure was nice to see him shoot so well from outside... _________________ "Whatever you do in life, surround yourself with smart people who'll argue with you." |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:55 am Post subject: |
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I honestly think there is an argument for Lonzo being #2.....only because I think there is an argument for Kuzma being #1. |
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:56 am Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | I honestly think there is an argument for Lonzo being #2.....only because I think there is an argument for Kuzma being #1. |
yeup. they tied in my book |
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Wilkes52 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:01 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, it's Summer league but doing well among those players is probably better than doing poorly. I feel that the club can be viewed as having been successful with the Kuzma pick so far (#27, let's remember), and more so if KK's a productive guy early on and for several years. Simmons comes to mind, pattern-wise. Sticking around and making the rotation for an end of first round selection is OK with me. _________________ “These GOAT discussions are fun distractions while sitting around waiting for the pizza to be served.”
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Dr. Funkbot Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:38 am Post subject: |
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Wilkes52 wrote: | Yeah, it's Summer league but doing well among those players is probably better than doing poorly. I feel that the club can be viewed as having been successful with the Kuzma pick so far (#27, let's remember), and more so if KK's a productive guy early on and for several years. Simmons comes to mind, pattern-wise. Sticking around and making the rotation for an end of first round selection is OK with me. |
After seeing our high draft picks fizzle out in the SPL over the past few seasons, I think this is a good sign. _________________ R.I.P. Doc Buss |
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Big Game Jeff Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:38 am Post subject: |
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Kooz is too low... _________________ LAKERS RAIDERS KINGS DODGERS AZTECS MIDSHIPMEN |
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:17 am Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | I honestly think there is an argument for Lonzo being #2.....only because I think there is an argument for Kuzma being #1. |
and that's only cuz ingram was shut down
we feasibly could have had 1/2/3 if ingram played _________________ substance over style |
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:19 am Post subject: |
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44TheLogo wrote: | adkindo wrote: | I honestly think there is an argument for Lonzo being #2.....only because I think there is an argument for Kuzma being #1. |
and that's only cuz ingram was shut down
we feasibly could have had 1/2/3 if ingram played |
I have heard multiple national "analysts/media/talking heads" mention that they were more impressed by Ingram in his brief showing than any other player in Vegas. |
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:22 am Post subject: |
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In regards to 1st Team All Summer League snub......everyone on this board knows I am a Josh Jackson fan.....and I watched every game Jackson played in, and he did look mostly good and made the 1st Team. On no planet did Josh Jackson have a more impressive SL than Kuzma. |
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TooMuchMajicBuss Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:23 am Post subject: |
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justsomelakerfan wrote: | If you guys want to feel sad take a look at who else has won Summer League Finals MVP |
Or if you want to feel happy see which rookies won the Summer League Finals MVP. |
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TooMuchMajicBuss Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:25 am Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | 44TheLogo wrote: | adkindo wrote: | I honestly think there is an argument for Lonzo being #2.....only because I think there is an argument for Kuzma being #1. |
and that's only cuz ingram was shut down
we feasibly could have had 1/2/3 if ingram played |
I have heard multiple national "analysts/media/talking heads" mention that they were more impressed by Ingram in his brief showing than any other player in Vegas. |
First time I'd ever seen Ingram look like a man among boys. He looked REAL good during that brief one game stint. |
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TooMuchMajicBuss Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:27 am Post subject: |
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Very encouraging seeing the high regard for Ball, Kuzma, and even Ingram. I think Hart is another great addition, we'll see him more in September as well.
I feel real good about where we're at. |
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:29 am Post subject: |
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TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | Very encouraging seeing the high regard for Ball, Kuzma, and even Ingram. I think Hart is another great addition, we'll see him more in September as well.
I feel real good about where we're at. |
we "won" the draft |
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AFireInside619 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:31 am Post subject: |
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Finally! I waited years for Howard to give the Lakers a strong rookie ranking. I guess it was worth the wait. Now let's see if the Lakers can continue it through out the season. |
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oldschool32 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:36 am Post subject: |
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Feels good to have your rookies play great in summer league, and not have that "oh no" feeling in the pit of your stomach. The last two summer leagues weren't as kind. _________________ "It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up."-The Greatest |
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:50 am Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | I honestly think there is an argument for Lonzo being #2.....only because I think there is an argument for Kuzma being #1. |
I am amazed how well they complimented each other. I can't wait to see them on the regular season team. |
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