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 Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:45 am Post subject: 30th birthday of Appetite For Destruction |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appetite_for_Destruction
One of the first tapes I bought with my own money. Anyone else a GNR fan? They had a great mix of commercial saleability while retaining an edge, which a lot of 80s hair bands couldn't manage. It didn't take me long to transfer to grunge considering the state of rock in the late 80s. They were financial sellouts, not creative ones. I still haven't found a completely coherent reason for the fracture between Slash and Rose. I heard a quote by Slash that had EVH vs Roth shades. He said, "I don't know what I did to make this guy hate me as much as he does." Classic guitar hero vs golden god singer dynamic.
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AFD is one of my favorite albums and one of the greatest rock albums ever.
Unfortunately, everything they put out after it was meh. Lies was alright, a bit too much filler for my taste. And then UYI 1/2... Idk what how to really describe it. There are like 4 or 5 really cool/creative songs on there, but the rest of the album is just kind of cookie cutter rock -- they lost their edge just a little, and that was what made AFD so (bleep) awesome. It was just badass from start to finish. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| Greatest rock album of my lifetime. |
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Am I a fan? I have that album cover tattooed on my forearm.
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| Omar Little wrote: | | Am I a fan? I have that album cover tattooed on my forearm. |
Take that one to heart. |
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| Chuck Klosterman said something along the lines of AFD being the Exile on Main Street for genX. But unlike Exile, Appetite doesn't get boring towards the middle... Lol. I tend to agree with him. I think it's hands down the best "pure rock" record of the 80s. It really has all of the sleaze, pop sensibility, the grit and danger that always made GnR appealing to me. It also contains the 'classic' Guns lineup, with Steven and Izzy, and pre dated the days when Axl was firing band members on a daily basis. These days it's just Axl Rose & Friends as far as I'm concerned. That said, I'll still be going to see them this fall. Axl and Slash back together is something I can't pass up. |
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GnR were never really my jam, but I totally get why that album gets the recognition it does.
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| AY2043 wrote: | AFD is one of my favorite albums and one of the greatest rock albums ever.
Unfortunately, everything they put out after it was meh. Lies was alright, a bit too much filler for my taste. And then UYI 1/2... Idk what how to really describe it. There are like 4 or 5 really cool/creative songs on there, but the rest of the album is just kind of cookie cutter rock -- they lost their edge just a little, and that was what made AFD so (bleep) awesome. It was just badass from start to finish. |
UYI's had some really good cuts though. Locomotive is one of my favorite GNR songs. Coma, Civil War, November Rain, Double Talkin' Jive are great songs. Then there was 'U Could Be Mine' and 'Don't Cry' (which were from the AFD era, but the producer didn't want any ballads).
But, totally agree, AFD, is just a classic album. Was gutted when Steven got the boot because the drumming on AFD is just pure gold. |
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| AY2043 wrote: | AFD is one of my favorite albums and one of the greatest rock albums ever.
Unfortunately, everything they put out after it was meh. Lies was alright, a bit too much filler for my taste. And then UYI 1/2... Idk what how to really describe it. There are like 4 or 5 really cool/creative songs on there, but the rest of the album is just kind of cookie cutter rock -- they lost their edge just a little, and that was what made AFD so (bleep) awesome. It was just badass from start to finish. |
I think the incident of Rose wearing that shirt with the play on the Raid bugspray line, "AIDS kills ____ dead" was during the beginning of their mellowing. Then Rose got Elton John on stage to prove he wasn't a bigot and he started incorporating piano. Nov Rain is like their Jump. Eddie with the keyboard. UYI out same year as Metallica's Black Album. I think some of these bands don't wanna be pigeonholed into playing only what early fans want. They take it personally that they're expected to never branch out. Metallica got the expected "sell out" criticisms, yet they sold out financially if anything. I remember reading about that album that you now had to check your little sister's tape deck if you find that the album has gone missing. Sabbath always refused to be called metal. They eventually brought in the keyboards. Zeppelin started making acoustic songs with JPJ playing mandolin. It seems that the big 3-0 has more impact on bands losing their harder edge than anything else, tho. They simply become different people than they were at age 23.
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All bands do that.
What mattered in your teens and 20s doesn't as much in your 30s.
That's where life starts happening.
Marriage, kids, social issues, and new musical influences usually crop up in music around this time versus the usual angry young kid angst and party trash and getting girls subjects.
Bye.
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It is one of my personal favorite albums of all time, so many great songs on it.
I can't believe it is 30 years out from release now, uh oh! 
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| non-player zealot wrote: | | AY2043 wrote: | AFD is one of my favorite albums and one of the greatest rock albums ever.
Unfortunately, everything they put out after it was meh. Lies was alright, a bit too much filler for my taste. And then UYI 1/2... Idk what how to really describe it. There are like 4 or 5 really cool/creative songs on there, but the rest of the album is just kind of cookie cutter rock -- they lost their edge just a little, and that was what made AFD so (bleep) awesome. It was just badass from start to finish. |
I think the incident of Rose wearing that shirt with the play on the Raid bugspray line, "AIDS kills ____ dead" was during the beginning of their mellowing. Then Rose got Elton John on stage to prove he wasn't a bigot and he started incorporating piano. Nov Rain is like their Jump. Eddie with the keyboard. UYI out same year as Metallica's Black Album. I think some of these bands don't wanna be pigeonholed into playing only what early fans want. They take it personally that they're expected to never branch out. Metallica got the expected "sell out" criticisms, yet they sold out financially if anything. I remember reading about that album that you now had to check your little sister's tape deck if you find that the album has gone missing. Sabbath always refused to be called metal. They eventually brought in the keyboards. Zeppelin started making acoustic songs with JPJ playing mandolin. It seems that the big 3-0 has more impact on bands losing their harder edge than anything else, tho. They simply become different people than they were at age 23. |
NPZ, it's like how you don't want to be known only as the guy who made the Magic mixtape so you throw in some Sedale Threatt! |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | Greatest rock album of my lifetime. |
still consider them the greatest rock band of my lifetime  |
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I'd rather listen to UYI 2. But Apettite is a classic album, no doubt.
I hate hair/glam metal (like Motley Crue, Skid Row, and all those 80s (bleep)) but GNR has a punk-y element that makes them much better than those other bands. |
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