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| ringfinger wrote: | | Who is Clark's son and why do people keep talking about this guy? |
I know Mr. Clark was disappointed with his son's performance last year.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:05 am Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | lakerdynasty5.0 wrote: | | LakerDYnasty72 wrote: | | True Lakers Fan wrote: | | LakerDYnasty72 wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Scary as in run teams off the court, yes. Imo they will pile up a few wins just based on some teams not being able to keep up. Hopefully they get to 35 wins. If they add some surprising performances defensively, they might get close to 40 wins. Anything over 35 is a step in the right direction. |
That's exactly the number I had in mind too. With a shooter at center like Lopez, and the other parts fitting, offense should be fine. But IF we gel on defense, watch out!! |
I really wish that they will go after a defensive assistant |
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Buddy Ryan! |
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Always mixed Buddy with Was Phillips. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:08 am Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | lakerdynasty5.0 wrote: | | LakerDYnasty72 wrote: | | True Lakers Fan wrote: | | LakerDYnasty72 wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Scary as in run teams off the court, yes. Imo they will pile up a few wins just based on some teams not being able to keep up. Hopefully they get to 35 wins. If they add some surprising performances defensively, they might get close to 40 wins. Anything over 35 is a step in the right direction. |
That's exactly the number I had in mind too. With a shooter at center like Lopez, and the other parts fitting, offense should be fine. But IF we gel on defense, watch out!! |
I really wish that they will go after a defensive assistant |
Any candidates? |
Buddy Ryan! |
Dead |
Yeah, a little too late. Caught an HBO Real Sports segment about Singletary meeting with him for what he knew would be the last time. Bad stroke caused him to lose a lot towards the end. Poignant father-son type relationship between he and Singletary. Most of Da Bearssh thought he was the actual coach over Mike D.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | I have high hopes the defense will be much improved. Not a lockdown top 10 type but improved. If they can improve to even the high teens and potentially score as efficiently as I think they can they are going to be a tough out every night.
Think the addition of KCPs intensity will make a big difference. Looking forward to seeing him and Ingram working together. Also Ball is not a one on one defender but his team defense and ability to anticaipate will blend well.
Lopez is fairly mobile and intelligent. Again not a defensive stalwart but improved. PF has some interesting options and depth.
Lakers still need to add a player or two but I think the potential overall could be scary. Hope that Clarkson can be a part of it. |
I think the pace we'll play at will tire a lot of teams out and effectively act as part of our defense.
Much like the NFL...it's not about stopping teams that contribute to wins as much as generating TOs.
We get a lot of steals and keep sending waves of fresh legs out there and the D will be greatly improved.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:24 am Post subject: |
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| non-player zealot wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | lakerdynasty5.0 wrote: | | LakerDYnasty72 wrote: | | True Lakers Fan wrote: | | LakerDYnasty72 wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Scary as in run teams off the court, yes. Imo they will pile up a few wins just based on some teams not being able to keep up. Hopefully they get to 35 wins. If they add some surprising performances defensively, they might get close to 40 wins. Anything over 35 is a step in the right direction. |
That's exactly the number I had in mind too. With a shooter at center like Lopez, and the other parts fitting, offense should be fine. But IF we gel on defense, watch out!! |
I really wish that they will go after a defensive assistant |
Any candidates? |
Buddy Ryan! |
Dead |
Yeah, a little too late. Caught an HBO Real Sports segment about Singletary meeting with him for what he knew would be the last time. Bad stroke caused him to lose a lot towards the end. Poignant father-son type relationship between he and Singletary. Most of Da Bearssh thought he was the actual coach over Mike D. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:32 am Post subject: |
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| They'll be even scarier without Clarkson. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| nickuku wrote: | | They'll be even scarier without Clarkson. |
Not really.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:34 am Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | non-player zealot wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | lakerdynasty5.0 wrote: | | LakerDYnasty72 wrote: | | True Lakers Fan wrote: | | LakerDYnasty72 wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Scary as in run teams off the court, yes. Imo they will pile up a few wins just based on some teams not being able to keep up. Hopefully they get to 35 wins. If they add some surprising performances defensively, they might get close to 40 wins. Anything over 35 is a step in the right direction. |
That's exactly the number I had in mind too. With a shooter at center like Lopez, and the other parts fitting, offense should be fine. But IF we gel on defense, watch out!! |
I really wish that they will go after a defensive assistant |
Any candidates? |
Buddy Ryan! |
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Yeah, a little too late. Caught an HBO Real Sports segment about Singletary meeting with him for what he knew would be the last time. Bad stroke caused him to lose a lot towards the end. Poignant father-son type relationship between he and Singletary. Most of Da Bearssh thought he was the actual coach over Mike D. |
1985 was a magical year. |
46 Defense (or maybe 23 Defense for basketball) is what the Lakers need. Mind you, i'm not advocating the zone here, but Buddy was absolutely magical in '85.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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Clarkson will put numbers for us.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | nickuku wrote: | | They'll be even scarier without Clarkson. |
Not really. |
His weakness far outweight his strengths. He had probably less impact on the game than Nwaba and Nwaba was relegated to layups dunks and defense. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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Pretty scary, they're but ugly.... 
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| LB2 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | In all seriousness, I have a feeling Jordan Clarkson would thrive playing with Lonzo Ball. |
Yeah but who wouldn't? |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | In all seriousness, I have a feeling Jordan Clarkson would thrive playing with Lonzo Ball. |
That matters big time.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | In all seriousness, I have a feeling Jordan Clarkson would thrive playing with Lonzo Ball. |
That matters big time. |
Offensively, if he can consistently hit the 3, I think Clarkson could score around 20PPG in 30+ minutes next to Zo. However, two things - (1) if Clarkson doesn't play D, his offense wont' matter, especially because KCP may be just as good or better offensively next to Zo as Clarkson anyway and (2) because KCP is here (making no mention of Hart and a FA vet back up PG), Clarkson may not get the minutes nor the consistent role to show his stuff anyway.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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| LB2 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | In all seriousness, I have a feeling Jordan Clarkson would thrive playing with Lonzo Ball. |
Yeah but who wouldn't? |
Any player who hasn't shown a proclivity to play well off ball.
Players who I would expect to thrive would be athletic slashers that can hit from outside.
I wouldn't expect a pure spot up shooter to 'thrive' as much with Ball since he's just standing around the line anyway. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | lakerdynasty5.0 wrote: | | LakerDYnasty72 wrote: | | True Lakers Fan wrote: | | LakerDYnasty72 wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Scary as in run teams off the court, yes. Imo they will pile up a few wins just based on some teams not being able to keep up. Hopefully they get to 35 wins. If they add some surprising performances defensively, they might get close to 40 wins. Anything over 35 is a step in the right direction. |
That's exactly the number I had in mind too. With a shooter at center like Lopez, and the other parts fitting, offense should be fine. But IF we gel on defense, watch out!! |
I really wish that they will go after a defensive assistant |
Any candidates? |
Buddy Ryan! |
Dead |
Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer...
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Jc's finally back! rooting for him to have a great comeback!
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| Westbrook lite is back!!! |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| AshesToAshes wrote: | | Jc's finally back! rooting for him to have a great comeback! |
Finally someone who understands the definition of ”fan." I'm with u. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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| I think they'll have their moments. They'll have the potential to beat any team, but not every night. Sort of like the first 20 games last year. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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| nickuku wrote: | | They'll be even scarier without Clarkson. |
Don't really get the hate for this guy. He works hard and he's still young and athletic. Lonzo is going to make him a better player, count on it |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | LB2 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | In all seriousness, I have a feeling Jordan Clarkson would thrive playing with Lonzo Ball. |
Yeah but who wouldn't? |
Any player who hasn't shown a proclivity to play well off ball.
Players who I would expect to thrive would be athletic slashers that can hit from outside.
I wouldn't expect a pure spot up shooter to 'thrive' as much with Ball since he's just standing around the line anyway. |
A spot up shooter usually thrives when the ball moves - defenders chase/get out of position and when it rotates to the shooter he is wide open.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Can someone explain the "Who is Clarkson?" joke? |
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