Re-Signing KCP To Max.

Lakers2015 · Star Player Joined: 16 Feb 2015 Posts: 2315

In the event that the Lakers are unable to sign LeBron James and Paul George (or maybe just sign PG13) I think without a doubt the best possible move would be to max out KCP and make sure he remains in Los Angeles and allow him to grow with Ingram and Ball. He's the first legit 3&D the Lakers have had in years probably since Artest or Ariza. Those kind of guys are invaluable in today's NBA and KCP still has the potential to grow and develop into a more consistent shooter and his numbers should very well sky rocket with Lonzo. His defense is top notch when it comes to defending opposing guards.

Thoughts?
_________________
#CowboysNation
#LakeShow

greenfrog · Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:34 pm Post subject:

I need to see more of him, but the numbers don't support a max. If he's worth $20+ mill Lebron seriously might be worth $50.

fansincemagic · Franchise Player Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 11076

Yea both KCP and Lopez look like plan B types in the event they can't secure a star. They'll likely both come back if they completely strike out. They're sold out on the plan so much that they'll risk losing them though.

Lakers2015 · Star Player Joined: 16 Feb 2015 Posts: 2315

ringfinger · Retired Number Joined: 08 Oct 2013 Posts: 29418

I'd like to see him play a game in a Laker uniform first. Crazy, I know.

epak · Retired Number Joined: 30 Aug 2005 Posts: 34147

LakerReign · Starting Rotation Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 268

At what point & price does KCP become equivalent to Paul George?

greenfrog · Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:46 pm Post subject:

Ziggy · Franchise Player Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 12717

32 · Retired Number Joined: 04 Nov 2009 Posts: 73071

Well he was offered 5 yrs $80M from Detroit and he turned it down.
_________________
Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold.

oldschool32 · Franchise Player Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 20032

If the Lakers have this big capspace plan and end up with Lopez and KCP long term....

_________________
"It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up."-The Greatest

greenfrog · Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:50 pm Post subject:

Fortysixn2 · Star Player Joined: 22 Jun 2016 Posts: 2849

The only way we'd offer him a big contract is PG13 and LBJ both don't come. George is coming here to play the 2, BI is our 3. If George stay in OKC or goes somewhere else and KCP

18+ points a game
On an all defensive team, or at least close to it

Maybe we offer him 20-22M a year long term and just add Cousins at C

Lonzo
KCP
BI
Randle/Kuzma
Cousins

Maybe...

splashmtn · Star Player Joined: 30 Aug 2016 Posts: 3961

splashmtn · Star Player Joined: 30 Aug 2016 Posts: 3961

Sentient Meat · Franchise Player Joined: 04 Jul 2014 Posts: 12978

He'd have to average close to 25 PPG with close to 40% from 3 to justify those numbers. I expect close to 20PPG and 37% just from the Ball effect alone.

h2omike · Star Player Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 2811

If neither Lebron or PG13 come, then KCP is in play. I could see if only Lebron came, that we could keep KCP to play the sg. If PG13 only comes, then maybe we look at Lopez or Randle as the center options.

Ball
PG13
BI
Lebron
Randle, or Lopez on a discount

Ball
KCP
BI
Lebron
Lopez

Ball
PG13
BI
Randle, Kuzma
Lopez

ringfinger · Retired Number Joined: 08 Oct 2013 Posts: 29418

MJST · Retired Number Joined: 06 Jul 2014 Posts: 26386

If KCP puts up 18/5/4 next season on 45% from the field and 41% from three at 24 years old, while playing extremely solid defense you MUST re-sign him and not get caught up in the "names". That's an absolute necessity not to fall in love with 'names' in lieu of what a better fit is.
_________________
How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk

misterrunon · Star Player Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 1904

Yes, it would be a great idea to max out a very good roleplayer.

Having this guy on a max contract will do little to nothing to lure a big time player like PG.

It makes more sense to get superstars and then fill out the rest of your roster. It's the reason why the Spurs/Warriors get such bargain contracts - because they have all the major pieces and ring chasers can't help but take a discount to join them.

fansincemagic · Franchise Player Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 11076

Laker's Fan · Franchise Player Joined: 27 Jun 2002 Posts: 12861

It's kind of funny that the Knicks like to set the market on bad deals. Last year they set the Center market with Noah (and unfortunately LA and a few others followed) and this year they set the bad contract market on guards with Hardaway Jr.

Assuming it doesn't get in the way with 2Max (trades and such), I could see LA having interest @ something like the Hardaway numbers if not hopefully a bit less.
_________________
Austin Reaves keeps his game tight, like Kobe Bryant on game night.

MJST · Retired Number Joined: 06 Jul 2014 Posts: 26386

Alright let's play a game...

If a "name" player at 24 put up 18/5/4 while playing lock down defense and shooting 45% from the field and 41% from three.

How much would you pay to get him?

If KCP does that we need to re-sign him.

People get way way WAY too locked in on "names" and don't understand how strong it makes us.

If we went and got Paul George, we'd have to bench Ingram or force Ingram to play the 2 which he isn't capable of, or we'd have to force George to play the 2 or the 4 which he isn't comfortable with.

But if we keep KCP we can play KCP who had those great numbers AND Ingram together in a situation that fits both of them better and allows them to be maximized further and ultimately is probably the better outcome.
_________________
How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk

ringfinger · Retired Number Joined: 08 Oct 2013 Posts: 29418

bonkers · Star Player Joined: 25 Apr 2013 Posts: 6071

4 years, 100 million sounds about right