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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:52 am Post subject: |
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Texas_Pete wrote: | I believe we defended the 3 really well. Pau and LO would dominate the Dubs. Then who would check Kobe? 2009-2010 Lakers in 6. |
Curry > Fish
Klay < Kobe
Iggy > MWP
KD > Odom
Dray < Pau
I think when push comes to shove, having advantages with Kobe/Pau are somewhat negated by guys like KD/Curry running roughshod on our guys. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Texas_Pete wrote: | I believe we defended the 3 really well. Pau and LO would dominate the Dubs. Then who would check Kobe? 2009-2010 Lakers in 6. |
Curry > Fish
Klay < Kobe
Iggy > MWP
KD > Odom
Dray < Pau
I think when push comes to shove, having advantages with Kobe/Pau are somewhat negated by guys like KD/Curry running roughshod on our guys. |
Bench mob >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Their bench |
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Don Draper Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:55 am Post subject: |
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Let's not kid ourselves. Probably Dubs in 4 over the 2010 team.
Kobe/Gasol/Odom were an epic trio, but Steph/KD talent wise is more a match for the Kobe/Shaq Lakers. |
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:56 am Post subject: |
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We would slow the game down. The only matchup that would kill us is Curry vs. Fisher. Fisher has always horrendous on defense. He could body up, but I don't know if he can stick to him.
We would have an incredible length advantage and we would destroy them down low. We would draw so many fouls and force them to use their bench.
Who's stopping Kobe, Pau, Bynum, and Odom?
MWP would be on KD
Kobe on Klay
Odom on Greene
I say 6 games Lakers. |
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Isolations and post-ups vs. threes and layups. Let's consider this. |
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Texas_Pete Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Texas_Pete wrote: | I believe we defended the 3 really well. Pau and LO would dominate the Dubs. Then who would check Kobe? 2009-2010 Lakers in 6. |
Curry > Fish
Klay < Kobe
Iggy > MWP
KD > Odom
Dray < Pau
I think when push comes to shove, having advantages with Kobe/Pau are somewhat negated by guys like KD/Curry running roughshod on our guys. |
Agreed, but we have a 3rd advantage: MWP. He would absolutely look down Iggy and could check KD too (in a pinch). And with Kobe, I could see Draymond and whoever they throw at him in major foul trouble. The icing on the cake is the versatility of Pau and LO - not to mention Bynum. For me to give them 2 games is out of respect for them. Outside of KD, they're midgets compared to our frontline. We would pound them down low with our frontline and the best low post perimeter player in NBA history: Kobe.
It would be fun to see though |
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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greenfrog wrote: | Isolations and post-ups vs. threes and layups. Let's consider this. |
I agree, our superior physicality will overwhelm the Warriors as they're unable to stand up to the test of a true grind it out slugfest and Pau and Bynum more than likely foul out the entire Warriors soft front court. |
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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Lower jaw protruding Kobe would eat up both Klay, Curry and KD... best player in the league and see what happened if draymond try the hit a nut strategy fighting for rebound against... MWP |
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greenfrog Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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KungPau wrote: | greenfrog wrote: | Isolations and post-ups vs. threes and layups. Let's consider this. |
I agree, our superior physicality will overwhelm the Warriors as they're unable to stand up to the test of a true grind it out slugfest and Pau and Bynum more than likely foul out the entire Warriors soft front court. |
And an abacus also beats using algebra. |
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LakerSanity wrote: | Another question, is 2008-2010 Lamar Odom a better version of Draymond Green? Who would Golden State rather have in Green's role today, 2008-2010 LO or Green? I'm tempted to argue Odom. He'd be even more appreciated in today's era IMO. . |
I'd say Lamar is a poor man's Draymond. They are similar but Draymond trumps Lamar as a defender and passer.
The best case for Odom was the 2010-11 version of him, when he started to take the ball to the hoop more and had some dramatic shooting improvements as a result. |
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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greenfrog wrote: | KungPau wrote: | greenfrog wrote: | Isolations and post-ups vs. threes and layups. Let's consider this. |
I agree, our superior physicality will overwhelm the Warriors as they're unable to stand up to the test of a true grind it out slugfest and Pau and Bynum more than likely foul out the entire Warriors soft front court. |
And an abacus also beats using algebra. |
Advanced calculus is a lot easier than the Warriors trying to get any layups on the Lakers' freakishly huge front court. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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Smashmouth.
I would just cry watching Curry shoot 12 3s on Fisher.
MWP would try to muscle up KD, but KD would still find a way to score 30ppg on MWP IMO. This wasn't prime Artest we're talking about. And on offense, MWP would be somewhat of a liability.
Green v. Pau would be the most fascinating matchup. Pau is uber cerebral and skilled, but i think Dray would find a way to get into Pau's head.
Kobe would absolutely dominate Klay, but i can also see the Warriors doing what they did to LBJ in Finals I (i.e. let LBJ score his points to his heart's content eating up possessions). _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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GoldenThroat wrote: | greenfrog wrote: | KungPau wrote: | greenfrog wrote: | Isolations and post-ups vs. threes and layups. Let's consider this. |
I agree, our superior physicality will overwhelm the Warriors as they're unable to stand up to the test of a true grind it out slugfest and Pau and Bynum more than likely foul out the entire Warriors soft front court. |
And an abacus also beats using algebra. |
It's unbelievable.
We would just pound the post and back them down like the girlie-men they are and win.
People actually believe this (bleep). |
And there's actually people that believe The Warriors can win. It's a mad, mad world. |
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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I think the Warriors would win fairly easily. _________________ 14-5-3-12 |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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ocho wrote: | I think the Warriors would win fairly easily. |
Love that 2009/10 championship run, but I have to concede the 2017 Warriors probably are too much for them. Maybe a 6 game series at best. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, since opinions on how we stack up against the Warriors are so varied, how about this...
Would we beat this year's Cavs? |
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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GoldenThroat wrote: | greenfrog wrote: | KungPau wrote: | greenfrog wrote: | Isolations and post-ups vs. threes and layups. Let's consider this. |
I agree, our superior physicality will overwhelm the Warriors as they're unable to stand up to the test of a true grind it out slugfest and Pau and Bynum more than likely foul out the entire Warriors soft front court. |
And an abacus also beats using algebra. |
It's unbelievable.
We would just pound the post and back them down like the girlie-men they are and win.
People actually believe this (bleep). |
The midrange is where champions are made!
But seriously, who was even the main low post threat on that team?
The next season, of course, the almighty Mavericks were enough to bring them down.
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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Texas_Pete wrote: | I believe we defended the 3 really well. Pau and LO would dominate the Dubs. Then who would check Kobe? 2009-2010 Lakers in 6. |
Iggy, Klay, Livingston, Durant, Draymond.
Kobe would NEVER get an easy play off with five great 6'7 defenders being thrown at him for 40 minutes. Golden State's versatility is too much, even for the board's Superman. Probably get a repeat of Kobe's 6-24 Game 7 performance a couple times. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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KungPau wrote: | Okay, since opinions on how we stack up against the Warriors are so varied, how about this...
Would we beat this year's Cavs? |
Yes. Whole different proposition. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | KungPau wrote: | Okay, since opinions on how we stack up against the Warriors are so varied, how about this...
Would we beat this year's Cavs? |
Yes. Whole different proposition. |
I think I should've added an additional question to that...If yes, would we beat them as easily as the Warriors did? |
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BynumForThree wrote: | Texas_Pete wrote: | I believe we defended the 3 really well. Pau and LO would dominate the Dubs. Then who would check Kobe? 2009-2010 Lakers in 6. |
Iggy, Klay, Livingston, Durant, Draymond.
Kobe would NEVER get an easy play off with five great 6'7 defenders being thrown at him for 40 minutes. Golden State's versatility is too much, even for the board's Superman. Probably get a repeat of Kobe's 6-24 Game 7 performance a couple times. |
I think Kobe gets 30ppg, but probably needs 27-30 FGAs to get there.
They'd start with Klay, then Iggy, then Livingston and even KD on Kobe. Just waves of guys on him. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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KungPau wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | KungPau wrote: | Okay, since opinions on how we stack up against the Warriors are so varied, how about this...
Would we beat this year's Cavs? |
Yes. Whole different proposition. |
I think I should've added an additional question to that...If yes, would we beat them as easily as the Warriors did? |
Not as easily as i think it would be an ISO-off b/w Kobe v. LBJ/Irving. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | KungPau wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | KungPau wrote: | Okay, since opinions on how we stack up against the Warriors are so varied, how about this...
Would we beat this year's Cavs? |
Yes. Whole different proposition. |
I think I should've added an additional question to that...If yes, would we beat them as easily as the Warriors did? |
Not as easily as i think it would be an ISO-off b/w Kobe v. LBJ/Irving. |
Again I would give the upper-hand to the Cavs. The 2010 Lakers barely beat an aging Celtics superteam. The Cavs were a superteam in their prime who nearly took the Warriors, probably the greatest team ever assembled, to 6 games.
Kobe/Gasol/Odom vs LeBron/Irving/Love is definitely closer than the Warriors matchup. But the Cavs, lest we forget, were pretty godly from 3, and LeBron would be the best player in the series (much as I love 2010 Mamba).
That being said I like Pau vs. the Cavs frontcourt, and Kobe is bound to raise his level of play against LeBron. Irving vs. Fisher is a nightmare though, as is Irving vs. Kobe at that point.
Best case for us I think would be something like the 2013 NBA finals. Maybe we pull it out in 7 much as the Spurs had a chance to do, but more likely we go down in 6 similar to what happened in 2008. |
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How do you think these Warriors would fair against the Bad Boy Pistons with 80's rules? _________________ I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying. |
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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True Lakers Fan wrote: | How do you think these Warriors would fair against the Bad Boy Pistons with 80's rules? |
Draymond Green better keep his mouth shut if he wants to live to see game 2. |
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