ESPN Projected 2017-18 records: LAKERS 33 WINS
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:24 am    Post subject:

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Lonzo Ball Effect.

I say we hit the forties.




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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:28 am    Post subject:

Darn you Pelton!
Hopefully the RPM is wrong about offense being average and defense being worst. If we can be a little better than average on offense and in the late teens on defense, then good times ahead.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:31 am    Post subject:

Philly makes the playoffs in the east

LAC wins 40 or less
Utah is in the high 30's
Dallas is in the low 30's
OKC > Minny
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:35 am    Post subject:

They are sooo wrong.
I expect a breakout year for 3 of our players
KCP
Ingram
Randle

Lonzo will be ROY, Lopez will average career high in points and we have good depth with Clarkson, Nance, Kuzma, Deng, Ennis, Zubac.

We are being underrated this year!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:05 am    Post subject:

Pelton is usually right. I'd be more pissed as a Warriors fan. Only 62 wins? 😂

I hope we win more than 33 games of course. But we'll see how that all goes.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:48 am    Post subject:

I saw the headline as I was reading ESPN this morning. Before I open the link I said to myself "they're projecting us to win the same amount as Kareem's number...33. And there it was.

It's about right considering where we're starting from, but I still think we'll surprise some people, and perhaps surpass that number.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:25 am    Post subject:

Seems reasonable. There's 8 teams projected below us.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:30 am    Post subject:

33 feels low but I say this every year
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:33 am    Post subject:

33 is conservative, 35 is realistic, 40 is what I want.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:37 am    Post subject:

I've been saying this for the last 3 years, but anything less than 41 wins is a disappointment.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:45 am    Post subject:

On the one hand we have yet another new team

On the other hand we have proven players in Lopez/KCP

So factor in improvements from SF, PF and PG and maybe 33 is low end
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:47 am    Post subject:

Clippers, Nuggets and Utah are too high.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:51 am    Post subject:

ESPN has been very lucky regarding there prediction on the Lakers record the last few years, they had the Howard/Kobe Lakers winning 60+ games they got lucky the team couldn't build chemistry with a rash of injuries especially last year when we were playing good ball early on.

I would say that there is a good chance ESPN gets the Lakers prediction wrong and we win higher then 33 games....
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:54 am    Post subject:

Every year their predictions for the Lakers seem like low ball numbers, yet every year they end up being pretty accurate. Still (like every year) I'm going into the season optimistic thinking we should get pretty close to 40 wins given the improvements to our roster and the maturity of our youngsters.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:59 am    Post subject:

Hero Ball wrote:
Lonzo Ball Effect.

I say we hit the forties.


If we hit the 40 win threshold due to Lonzo, he's a future GOAT candidate. 33 is very reasonable and I would be satisfied if we hit that mark. As others have said, ESPN has been pretty prescient predicting out win totals the last few years.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:00 am    Post subject:

ElginBaylor wrote:
Every year their predictions for the Lakers seem like low ball numbers, yet every year they end up being pretty accurate. Still (like every year) I'm going into the season optimistic thinking we should get pretty close to 40 wins given the improvements to our roster and the maturity of our youngsters.


ESPN has been fortunate that the Lakers have had problems staying healthy, we lost Randle in the 2015 season so that 1 was just a lucky guess by ESPN. Last year we were on pace to win 35-40 games but the injuries to Nance and Russell dethroned our season. I would say with a certain that ESPN finally looks like a idiot and we overcome our inconsistency and injuries.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:01 am    Post subject:

mhan00 wrote:
Hero Ball wrote:
Lonzo Ball Effect.

I say we hit the forties.


If we hit the 40 win threshold due to Lonzo, he's a future GOAT candidate. 33 is very reasonable and I would be satisfied if we hit that mark. As others have said, ESPN has been pretty prescient predicting out win totals the last few years.


ESPN isn't some Nostradamus, we were dealing with injuries.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:26 am    Post subject:

mhan00 wrote:
Hero Ball wrote:
Lonzo Ball Effect.

I say we hit the forties.


If we hit the 40 win threshold due to Lonzo, he's a future GOAT candidate. 33 is very reasonable and I would be satisfied if we hit that mark. As others have said, ESPN has been pretty prescient predicting out win totals the last few years.


The delta here is so wide b/c it's dependent largely on Lonzo/Ingram (to a smaller extent Jules), who are 19 year olds at this moment. They could be "average" or have a preternatural year.

We sort of know what Brook/KCP/JC/Nance bring to the table.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:55 am    Post subject:

28-30 wins. If Lonzo comes out all NBA 1st team like performance then 35-38.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:55 am    Post subject:

I wouldn't count on a Lonzo Effect on Year 1. But, KCP and Lopez are a big improvement, I believe Julius will have a breakout season, Ingram will have a considerable improvement and even Luke will be better. Another important aspect: we don't need to tank this year; I believe we could have reached 30 wins last year, wasn't for the tanking.

The main variable here is defense. When we were 10-10 last season, we were #20 in the defense ranking, then it all fell apart. If we can improve from 30th to something like 22nd-25th in that ranking, I believe 36 wins is a good guess.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:58 am    Post subject:

Eindhoven wrote:
I wouldn't count on a Lonzo Effect on Year 1. But, KCP and Lopez are a big improvement, I believe Julius will have a breakout season, Ingram will have a considerable improvement and even Luke will be better. Another important aspect: we don't need to tank this year; I believe we could have reached 30 wins last year, wasn't for the tanking.

The main variable here is defense. When we were 10-10 last season, we were #20 in the defense ranking, then it all fell apart. If we can improve from 30th to something like 22nd-25th in that ranking, I believe 36 wins is a good guess.


Lonzo/Jules will be the weakest links on the starting lineup, defense-wise. Thankfully KCP will take the other team's best guard, and I'm hoping that Ingram can be a stronger defensive presence (his advanced stats on that end were pretty yikes).
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:07 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
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I wouldn't count on a Lonzo Effect on Year 1. But, KCP and Lopez are a big improvement, I believe Julius will have a breakout season, Ingram will have a considerable improvement and even Luke will be better. Another important aspect: we don't need to tank this year; I believe we could have reached 30 wins last year, wasn't for the tanking.

The main variable here is defense. When we were 10-10 last season, we were #20 in the defense ranking, then it all fell apart. If we can improve from 30th to something like 22nd-25th in that ranking, I believe 36 wins is a good guess.


Lonzo/Jules will be the weakest links on the starting lineup, defense-wise. Thankfully KCP will take the other team's best guard, and I'm hoping that Ingram can be a stronger defensive presence (his advanced stats on that end were pretty yikes).


Comparing to last year, I don't think Lonzo will be worse than DLo on defense; Julius will be better than last season Julius and KCP is the big improvement here.

But, the biggest upside I expect in our defensive side should be Luke. Our team defense can't get worse.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:09 pm    Post subject:

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I wouldn't count on a Lonzo Effect on Year 1. But, KCP and Lopez are a big improvement, I believe Julius will have a breakout season, Ingram will have a considerable improvement and even Luke will be better. Another important aspect: we don't need to tank this year; I believe we could have reached 30 wins last year, wasn't for the tanking.

The main variable here is defense. When we were 10-10 last season, we were #20 in the defense ranking, then it all fell apart. If we can improve from 30th to something like 22nd-25th in that ranking, I believe 36 wins is a good guess.


Lonzo/Jules will be the weakest links on the starting lineup, defense-wise. Thankfully KCP will take the other team's best guard, and I'm hoping that Ingram can be a stronger defensive presence (his advanced stats on that end were pretty yikes).


Comparing to last year, I don't think Lonzo will be worse than DLo on defense; Julius will be better than last season Julius and KCP is the big improvement here.

But, the biggest upside I expect in our defensive side should be Luke. Our team defense can't get worse.


I'm not too sure about Luke's defensive schemes or defensive acumen. I felt like we were generally clueless last year on that end, which Brian Shaw was supposed to handle.

We don't know yet how Lonzo will fare against NBA level athletes and strength. At least DLO was already a 2nd year player by that time; Lonzo is a baby at 19.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:16 pm    Post subject:

33-36 wins is the range I feel we can acheive this season.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:34 pm    Post subject:

JohnWick wrote:
33-36 wins is the range I feel we can acheive this season.


We can also end up winning 45-50 wins, so if 36 wins is likely then so is 50
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