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| Not sure why Indy is being salty, if Paul George directly told the Lakers he was coming the Lakers aren't at fault, the Miami Heat got away with tampering when they made there super team in 2010, I really hope the NBA doesn't get deep into it. |
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"to enter into negotiations for or relating to his services or negotiate or contract for such services ..."
Did Magic do this on Kimmel - no
Did Magic do this at other times - ?
Magic responded after PG13 gave the Pacers ample and long-standing statements of what he wants, out of courtesy |
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| Question: If in case the Lakers found guilty of tampering on Paul George what will be the penalty? |
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There's more in the language of the rule, it's unambiguous that Magic tampered but history dictates a fine if that's the extent of it
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The link gave me a 404 and then a redirect to the BR Home page in Chrome, IE and Firefox.
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| jankobe wrote: | | Question: If in case the Lakers found guilty of tampering on Paul George what will be the penalty? |
It depends on the level of tampering.
A minor infraction should result in a minor penalty.
A moderate infraction should result in a moderate penalty.
A major infraction is likely to cause some angry posts on LG because the penalty will be harsh. |
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Slap on the wrist type of thing...but who knows if the NBA makes
the Lakers a poster child for tampering...stinks IMO
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they'll be checking Magic's emails, phone records and texts - better home he played it straight
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| emplay wrote: | | they'll be checking Magic's emails, phone records and texts - better home he played it straight |
Would they still consider it tampering if they found communication between PG and Magic however, it was before coming to work for the Lakers? It's a stretch, I know but not completely impossible. |
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Magic, pre-Lakers, can talk to whoever he wants if he's not representing/working for the team - but that's immaterial.
If Magic is clean since taking over, great, but if not, this could be really, really bad
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| emplay wrote: | Magic, pre-Lakers, can talk to whoever he wants if he's not representing/working for the team - but that's immaterial.
If Magic is clean since taking over, great, but if not, this could be really, really bad |
Why isn't Paul George's camp getting any attention on this? If anything they are probably more responsible on all of this then Magic/Lakers, in fact wasn't it Aaron Mintz that told the Lakers not to give up Randle or Russell in a PG13 trade cause he was gonna come in 2018? Sounds like the Lakers are just being accused cause of jealousy or maybe I don't know much about what's going on and you do. |
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Paul George's camp is not an NBA team - tampering is in the constitution and bylaws with massive penalties attached at the sole discretion of the commissioner
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| emplay wrote: | | they'll be checking Magic's emails, phone records and texts - better home he played it straight |
Um. Rookie move. He would have been smart enough to use pagers and pay phones. I mean everybody has watched the wire right?!? |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | emplay wrote: | Magic, pre-Lakers, can talk to whoever he wants if he's not representing/working for the team - but that's immaterial.
If Magic is clean since taking over, great, but if not, this could be really, really bad |
Why isn't Paul George's camp getting any attention on this? If anything they are probably more responsible on all of this then Magic/Lakers, in fact wasn't it Aaron Mintz that told the Lakers not to give up Randle or Russell in a PG13 trade cause he was gonna come in 2018? Sounds like the Lakers are just being accused cause of jealousy or maybe I don't know much about what's going on and you do. |
Other than Paul George, nobody from his camp/group works for an organization directly bound by NBA rules/bylaws. So an in-house investigation such as the one being done by Wachtell Lipton has huge limitations investigating those who are outside the NBA.
The Players Association handles agent certification and related. |
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Right - they're not going to be able to get Aaron Mintz's records but they will Magic's
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At the end of the day, this is a lame ass attempt by a sorry franchise who could do no better than Oladipo's ugly contract for PG13. They are bitter and need to blame someone/anyone.
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| Well - $500k is a chunk of change but still a slap on the wrist in NBA terms. Hopefully this ugly episode is behind us, and PG13 wears P&G in another 13 months. |
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"I would like to personally thank... um... my representation... and also in particularl, the law offices of Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz... without which none of this would have been possible."
- Paul George at the start of 2018 free agency.
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$500,000 (http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la-sp-lakers-tampering-paul-george-20170831-story.html) is the NBA's way to appease the Indiana Pacers
That it is 10% of what the fine could have been ($5M), signal to the Pacers on how serious they think the charges are |
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That's a pretty poor characterization there of what the $500k penalty represents
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$500k is one of the largest tampering fines issued by the NBA - they issued it because Pelinka tampered.
$5 mil would be for an in-place agreement, etc. - more serious tampering - and Pelinka would be banned probably for a year, Lakers lose a pick and are barred from ever signing George.
That's not what they found - they found contact - which is more than your basic public statement like the Rockets, Kings, Hawks and Knicks were fined for in recent years.
To put in perspective, the Heat had negotiations illegally with Riley - it was settled at $1 mil and loss of a pick before the NBA ruled on it.
That's for active tampering - the $500k is stern message and it's a LOT more than the Lakers expected.
But they'll happy accept it and no more, real punishment
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Big shot across the Lakers bow, just in time for the 2 max summer of 2018. Tread carefully Lakers. Send messages via ravens that self destruct unless LBJ or PG13 touch it. 
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