He's on the short list of best players in NBA history to never make an all-star team:
Lamar Odom
Serge Ibaka
Mike Conley
Marcus Camby
Rod Stickland
Cedric Maxwell
Ron Harper
Sam Perkins
Jason Terry
Byron Scott
Michael Cooper
Amazing how many Lakers are on this list
Not seeing any HOFer's there. I guess making at least one All Star team is a pretty good predictor.
Not necessarily. Tom Chambers made 4 all-star games and is not in the hall of fame. Walter Davis made 6 all-star games and is not in the hall of fame.
Odom Perkins Terry Scott and Cooper should all be in the hof
I don't think any of them rise close to the level of Hall of Famer. If you can't manage to make one-all star team, it's hard to make a case you should be in the Hall. And for all those guys, they each had maybe only one or two years you could even say they were borderline Hall of Famer.
I really wish he didn't take that trade so personally. Yes he was a big part of our two titles, but I think he let it effect him way more than it should have. At least Pau stuck it out for two more years and kept it professional.
trab, there was no way he wasnt going to take it personally.
think about it. him and pau were HOT about that trade.
pau never felt the same afterwards. as he should've felt. it.
In some ways, it's weird. Lamar was 32; he'd already been traded once, and he already left a team as a free agent. He wasn't a kid, and he'd been around the NBA long enough to know that teams cut guys all the time. I could see him being pissed, because that's a normal human reaction, but it was odd how flummoxed he became by it.
Depression and mental illness I suspect were factors. I remember reading he was already in a bad state because of some robbery or incident that he witnessed in NY. He's a sensitive soul.
those were two incidents he had many.
truth is, LO is one person I actually give a pass to going off the deep end and getting hooked on real drugs. not that i like it. But i get it. This guy should've jumped off a bridge a long time ago with the amt of death and bad stuff he's seen in his short life time. too much of that type of stuff happening to anyone would change them forever. and probably not in a good way. how do you get better after losing a loved one, then lose another one. and then another. and then your baby. and then your best friend Od's, yep.. remember that too? The accident. the kid dying because of it. THe lakers cutting him after he had his best season was probably the lesser of his worse days. But because of all that other stuff. it was too much and that was literally the last straw for him. He basically went postal on himself.
I remember when his son died and I sent him a sympathy card. A few weeks later I was surprised to receive a thank you note from him. I remember reading about others on Lakersground who had the same experience. Definitely a sensitive soul. _________________ Chick Hearn and Vin Scully. How lucky are we?
I remember when his son died and I sent him a sympathy card. A few weeks later I was surprised to receive a thank you note from him. I remember reading about others on Lakersground who had the same experience. Definitely a sensitive soul.
That's cool. Thanks for sharing that. _________________ I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying.
He truly was one of the more ambivalent players. Perhaps of all time.
All those Bay fans cheering for us. The good ol' days. That's how it should be! _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
He's on the short list of best players in NBA history to never make an all-star team:
Lamar Odom
Serge Ibaka
Mike Conley
Marcus Camby
Rod Stickland
Cedric Maxwell
Ron Harper
Sam Perkins
Jason Terry
Byron Scott
Michael Cooper
Amazing how many Lakers are on this list
Not seeing any HOFer's there. I guess making at least one All Star team is a pretty good predictor.
Not necessarily. Tom Chambers made 4 all-star games and is not in the hall of fame. Walter Davis made 6 all-star games and is not in the hall of fame.
Odom Perkins Terry Scott and Cooper should all be in the hof
I don't think any of them rise close to the level of Hall of Famer. If you can't manage to make one-all star team, it's hard to make a case you should be in the Hall. And for all those guys, they each had maybe only one or two years you could even say they were borderline Hall of Famer.
i agree with you. buttt, what if you are playing the wrong position in the wrong era. dont mess around and be a PF during the PF era. LO was valuable with us. But how much more valuable would he be right now with the idea of STRETCH bigs being a big thing. and bigs that can handle the ball and do other stuff? He could play center for the warriors right now if he was never an addict.
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