I do love how Ingram always offers comfort to those he dunks on by gently placing his hand on their shoulder. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
hope he gets to hold the ball too long next season if he's gonna be dunking on folks like that after taking only one dribble from the high post. We need more of that! _________________ My Dream Starting 5 next Season
Thats based on his rookie year when he wasn't physically ready yet. I think he will be elite this year with a year of growing and a year in the weight room.
You are going to be surprised by his numbers after the all star break, he finished the season really strong and that is why I don't like to talk about "Ingram rookie season" because his performance in 2016 was a major struggle, but he kept getting better every month of this year, in 2017 he has improved steadily with solid advanced stats and per 36 numbers in april increasing it in his lone summer league game.
You are going to be surprised by his numbers after the all star break, he finished the season really strong and that is why I don't like to talk about "Ingram rookie season" because his performance in 2016 was a major struggle, but he kept getting better every month of this year, in 2017 he has improved steadily with solid advanced stats and per 36 numbers in april increasing it in his lone summer league game.
You are going to be surprised by his numbers after the all star break, he finished the season really strong and that is why I don't like to talk about "Ingram rookie season" because his performance in 2016 was a major struggle, but he kept getting better every month of this year, in 2017 he has improved steadily with solid advanced stats and per 36 numbers in april increasing it in his lone summer league game.
I've noticed a lot of people don't like to talk about Ingram's rookie season
I am sure he will be better this season but referring to him as an elite ISO player is factually incorrect and extremely premature. _________________ 14-5-3-12
You are going to be surprised by his numbers after the all star break, he finished the season really strong and that is why I don't like to talk about "Ingram rookie season" because his performance in 2016 was a major struggle, but he kept getting better every month of this year, in 2017 he has improved steadily with solid advanced stats and per 36 numbers in april increasing it in his lone summer league game.
I've noticed a lot of people don't like to talk about Ingram's rookie season
I am sure he will be better this season but referring to him as an elite ISO player is factually incorrect and extremely premature.
I don't avoid talking about his rookie season as a whole because he had mediocre numbers overall, but because he was another player in 2017.
Just forget for a moment what he did in 2016 when he was so skinny, shy and had to play PG and other roles, this is 2017 Brandon Ingram:
He finished the season scoring 18.9 PTS/36 in April with his best PER of the season. You have raw numbers and advanced stats raising together, no fluke here.
I'm not telling he is anywhere near elite at anything and I really don't mind if we have to develop him coming from the bench, but he is a legit prospect in my mind and it is clear that at this point he is not a catch and shoot thread, he can ISO, cut, finish and pull up a rhythm shot from the elbow.
You are going to be surprised by his numbers after the all star break, he finished the season really strong and that is why I don't like to talk about "Ingram rookie season" because his performance in 2016 was a major struggle, but he kept getting better every month of this year, in 2017 he has improved steadily with solid advanced stats and per 36 numbers in april increasing it in his lone summer league game.
I've noticed a lot of people don't like to talk about Ingram's rookie season
I am sure he will be better this season but referring to him as an elite ISO player is factually incorrect and extremely premature.
I don't avoid talking about his rookie season as a whole because he had mediocre numbers overall, but because he was another player in 2017.
Just forget for a moment what he did in 2016 when he was so skinny, shy and had to play PG and other roles, this is 2017 Brandon Ingram:
He finished the season scoring 18.9 PTS/36 in April with his best PER of the season. You have raw numbers and advanced stats raising together, no fluke here.
I'm not telling he is anywhere near elite at anything and I really don't mind if we have to develop him coming from the bench, but he is a legit prospect in my mind and it is clear that at this point he is not a catch and shoot thread, he can ISO, cut, finish and pull up a rhythm shot from the elbow.
Summer League was 1 game and April was 7 games. I can't put too much weight on it at the expense of the previous 6 months of play. He got better over the course of the season and I agree he's a prospect with potential. I was simply pushing back on the idea that he is an elite iso player because he isn't. He's not elite at anything right now, and bad at most things. _________________ 14-5-3-12
He finished the season scoring 18.9 PTS/36 in April with his best PER of the season. You have raw numbers and advanced stats raising together, no fluke here.
I'm not telling he is anywhere near elite at anything and I really don't mind if we have to develop him coming from the bench, but he is a legit prospect in my mind and it is clear that at this point he is not a catch and shoot thread, he can ISO, cut, finish and pull up a rhythm shot from the elbow.
Summer League was 1 game and April was 7 games. I can't put too much weight on it at the expense of the previous 6 months of play. He got better over the course of the season and I agree he's a prospect with potential. I was simply pushing back on the idea that he is an elite iso player because he isn't. He's not elite at anything right now, and bad at most things.
Yes, just 7 games in April under a minutes restriction that makes his per 36 numbers less credible, but the upper trajectory is clear, there were no bumps he just kept getting better.
While I agree that Ingram is not elite at anything yet, the last two months of the season he was above average in a series of plays, is a hard worker with some really good physical atributes and most would agree he has good BBIQ.
I don't remember the exact number, but despite the minutes restriction I believe he finished the season scoring in double digits in 19 of his last 20 games or something like that.
I like his potential, but I'm not one defending he should be "feeding" before players like LeBron and PG13. I believe he is going to start to deliver by the middle of his third season when we can have the two all star in place an then he can grow on his role until he is close to his prime and the previous all star generation will be declining.
Continuity is a must, something or former front office blatantly neglected. You want your next superstar generation flourishing while you have superstars and taking over when the veterans start to fade.
He's getting reps reading out off the tripe threat. It takes time (and aptitude) to get faster at that. Triple threat and read isn't a negative thing, though you don't want the read to take too long or the defense recovers. You also want to set up in a 'threat' zone which is player specific (Curry's for example is anywhere 32' and in).
Ingram has the physical tools and handle to set up outside the 3pt line and still be a 'compact' move away from the rim. He also has touch on his passes. Very short list of guys in the league with those tools and the ones who figure out how to use them are generally all-stars. Get stronger, get the footwork down (paging Mr. Bryant), get the 3pt shot out of triple threat, get the reps that will help speed up your reads and you're a perennial 20 point scorer in this league who can be a go to in crunch time. _________________ Austin Reaves keeps his game tight, like Kobe Bryant on game night.
Ingram will get credit for his rookie season strong end, while other young talents get it called a "small sample size"
But as far as BI goes, the 42nd percentile considering how his rookie season started I'm surprised it was actually that high even, as his rookie season for the first half was one of the most historically bad rookie seasons to date.
Good thing he turned it around after the goose-egg game vs Boston.
IF you want to see where Ingram was strongest, and where he was weakest in percentiles last year, here you go.
That should give you an idea of where Ingram's strengths and weaknesses were last season, and hopefully point to some of the things he hopefully worked on in the off-season going forward. The bottom 3 he's going to need major work on if he wants to fit with Lonzo best. The spot up I think he can get into the 50-60th %ile based on his changed jumpshot alone so I'm not too worried there. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
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