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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:47 am    Post subject: For those who don't know what all this Kneeling is about

For those who dont know what all this Kneeling is all about...

http://www.npr.org/2017/09/27/551864016/fewer-youths-incarcerated-but-gap-between-blacks-and-whites-worsens

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The Sentencing Project released a fact sheet analyzing the Justice Department data since the start of the century. In 2001, black children were four times more likely to be incarcerated than white children. But in 2015, black children were five times more likely than white children to be incarcerated.


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A look at the numbers shows that in 2015, 86 of 100,000 white children were incarcerated in the United States. The number for black children was five times higher, with 433 of 100,000 behind bars.

But according to Rovner, individual actions are not to blame for a higher incarceration rate of black youths.

"It's not about the differences in behaviors by youth. It's about the differences in how adults respond to those behaviors," he said.

Juvenile Justice System Failing Native Americans, Studies Show
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Juvenile Justice System Failing Native Americans, Studies Show
Every two years, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention performs a study analyzing youth risk behavior. The CDC looks at youth alcohol use, drug use, behaviors that contribute to violence and others. The results from its 2015 study show black youths are not committing more crimes in proportion to white youths.

There are some slight behavioral differences, the study shows. For example, white youths are more likely to carry weapons, drink alcohol and do harder drugs, while black youths are more likely to get into fights, smoke marijuana and handle drugs on school property.




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So why is there such a high disparity when it comes to incarceration?

Udi Ofer, the ACLU's deputy national political director, says the problem lies with the heavier policing of communities of color. A heavier police presence increases the chance of an officer being present when a crime is committed.

"A kid acting out in a school with no police officers gets treated differently than a kid acting out in a school that's heavily policed," Ofer says. "In the former, it may just lead to a walk to the principal's office. In the latter, it leads to a walk to your local police precinct."

This, Ofer says, is the first step in the process leading to the racial disparities in incarceration. He argues crime rates are driven by decisions made by local police and prosecutors on where to focus their enforcement practices.

"The police have extraordinary discretion — where to police and what to police," Ofer said. "Prosecutors have extraordinary discretion of what to prosecute and when to prosecute."


The bolded portions are there to show you what you have been told and what you think about those darker skin people may not actually be true in reality. But if you keep thinking those things about those people and you choose to raise children thinking those same things. Some of those children and/or yourself will decide to go into law enforcement(officers, sheriffs, work as a prosecutor(D.A./asst D.A.), Judges,etc.) And let me add even Jury pools when chosen for jury duty. These people will have the same inaccurate ideas about the same darker skin people. That will/can change how you interact with these darker skin people in the above positions in law enforcement in our society. You will find yourself arresting them more often for no legitimate reason, you will find yourself sentencing them more often for no legitimate reason, you could find yourself creating laws aiming to put them behind bards more often and for much longer periods of times if you're a elected judge/official.



For the record, this isnt just for whites to see. It's for everyone to see including blacks. They believe a lot of what the media has pushed on them about people that look like them. Even if its not true as shown in the above article.



***mods.. i did not put this in the political thread because I personally dont see anything political about a group of people being mistreated with statistics to prove it. but obviously its up to the mods if you choose to move the thread.***
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:19 am    Post subject:

^^^I heard 5 different NFL players that knelt this weekend provide 5 completely different reasons for their actions.....and not one of them said it was related to the differences in criminal sentences based on race.

Your post has a very small amount facts/statistics supported by a large amount of opinion from an individual that represents a group whose entire existence depends on data presented and described to portray a specific /predetermined reality. I am not agreeing or disagreeing with the information, or the opinions presented, but pointing out if you visit the NRA's website, you will find countless studies, compiled data, etc. that portray how great the world would be if everyone carried a firearm.

This 100% belongs in the political thread, but my assumption is you knew that it would get 100% agreement, and a lot of thumbs up from the usual daily users in that thread.....but just maybe you could bait someone into providing a different opinion, so you and your ideological soul mates could quickly pile on that person, and get that SJW rush.....its just more exciting than setting around agreeing with each other all day.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:31 am    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
^^^I heard 5 different NFL players that knelt this weekend provide 5 completely different reasons for their actions.....and not one of them said it was related to the differences in criminal sentences based on race.

Your post has a very small amount facts/statistics supported by a large amount of opinion from an individual that represents a group whose entire existence depends on data presented and described to portray a specific /predetermined reality. I am not agreeing or disagreeing with the information, or the opinions presented, but pointing out if you visit the NRA's website, you will find countless studies, compiled data, etc. that portray how great the world would be if everyone carried a firearm.

This 100% belongs in the political thread, but my assumption is you knew that it would get 100% agreement, and a lot of thumbs up from the usual daily users in that thread.....but just maybe you could bait someone into providing a different opinion, so you and your ideological soul mates could quickly pile on that person, and get that SJW rush.....its just more exciting than setting around agreeing with each other all day.


I don't think PnP has any ideological soul mates on LG.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:33 am    Post subject:

humanity's never gonna advance beyond what we are now until we get rid of identity
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:53 am    Post subject: Re: For those who don't know what all this Kneeling is about

splashmtn wrote:
***mods.. i did not put this in the political thread because I personally dont see anything political about a group of people being mistreated with statistics to prove it. but obviously its up to the mods if you choose to move the thread.***


You know that this is a political hand grenade. Come on.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:01 pm    Post subject:

tldr. typical pnp post.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:32 pm    Post subject:

Whatever the reason, if it goes from 4x in 2001 to 5x in 2015, something needs to be done. Both in the community, the LEO and the govt. do we have any further breakdowns? By income? Non violence Marijuana related?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:23 pm    Post subject:

rwongega wrote:
tldr. typical pnp post.


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