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Nash Vegas
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 Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:52 pm Post subject: Summer League Team definitely more exciting than Official Team (Ball Stoppers) |
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Just saying.
Ingram, Randle, Clarkson, even Deng are all Ball stoppers, literally. Once they get the ball, it stops moving, they either hold it for a couple seconds to survey the floor before passing it out again or going into an Iso play.
SPL team was definitely more exciting because Ball was surrounded by instant trigger players, once they get the pass from Ball 90% of the time they're already in their shooting motion. They also had actual shooters.
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Nash Vegas
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Right on cue, Ingram and Randle start the half with iso.
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we kinda suck..
hopefully we look a LOT better with Lopez in the lineup |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Most of our starting guys can't catch and shoot. They need to at least pound the ball before shooting. |
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Nash Vegas
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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Zo should get more playing time with both Kuzma and Brewer they're perfect compliments to him.
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1. Summer league team had shot makers
2. Summer league was versus low level talent
3. Zubac, Nance and Randle are horrible center options on defense |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Nash Vegas wrote: | | Zo should get more playing time with both Kuzma and Brewer they're perfect compliments to him. |
Honestly right now I would love to see Ball play with the 2nd unit with Kuz, Brew, JC, TB. Reminds me of the summer team (JC as Vander). The ball movement would be much better than the starting unit for sure.
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| I wondered if this might be part of reason Luke had Zo scrimmaging with his summer squad instead of starters in the beginning. To inspire the starters. Because that kind of play is not in their wheelhouse. |
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Nash Vegas
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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Ball, KCP, Ingram, Randle line up is hard to watch.
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Well they are playing against more talented teams, if they played against college teams they would look awesome...!
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| Maybe we need to bring back the Buech. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Things change when you play against actual NBA players
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:53 pm Post subject: Re: Summer League Team definitely more exciting than Official Team (Ball Stoppers) |
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| Nash Vegas wrote: | Just saying.
Ingram, Randle, Clarkson, even Deng are all Ball stoppers, literally. Once they get the ball, it stops moving, they either hold it for a couple seconds to survey the floor before passing it out again or going into an Iso play.
SPL team was definitely more exciting because Ball was surrounded by instant trigger players, once they get the pass from Ball 90% of the time they're already in their shooting motion. They also had actual shooters. |
that spl style of play wont work in the nba for real wins, especially not in the playoffs. its cute to watch and pleasing to the eyes. You can have great ball movement gstate. But still have guys that will iso their man and go to work. Gstate.
The only reason you have a problem with the ball stoppers is because they can't finish like a lebron, durant, kyrie irving, curry, klay, etc. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | 1. Summer league team had shot makers
2. Summer league was versus low level talent
3. Zubac, Nance and Randle are horrible center options on defense |
this too. we have too many guys trying to rush the rim while the defense is waiting on them. |
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Nash Vegas
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Things change when you play against actual NBA players |
The semi-SPL 2nd team with Kuzma/Bryant/Blue/Ennis has actually outplayed these real NBA teams twice now.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | Maybe we need to bring back the Buech. |
He's got my vote |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:15 pm Post subject: Re: Summer League Team definitely more exciting than Official Team (Ball Stoppers) |
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| Nash Vegas wrote: | Just saying.
Ingram, Randle, Clarkson, even Deng are all Ball stoppers, literally. Once they get the ball, it stops moving, they either hold it for a couple seconds to survey the floor before passing it out again or going into an Iso play.
SPL team was definitely more exciting because Ball was surrounded by instant trigger players, once they get the pass from Ball 90% of the time they're already in their shooting motion. They also had actual shooters. |
You have to take summer league with a grain of salt. It doesn't have NBA veterans and defense tends to be lazy. Things always get tougher in the preseason and then the regular season when you face real players playing structured defense. |
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| Lakers seriously need to bench Randle and start Kuzma at PF. Enough is enough after how many years now?? 3yrs? Randle is not a starter material. |
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splashmtn
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Things change when you play against actual NBA players |
that has little to do with it.
Things change when you play with OTHER players on the team.
remember the SPL did not have BI because he got hurt after game 1.
Randle didnt play, nance didnt play.
Zubac started getting less and less burn because he was looking bad out there during the spl.
So you had quicker lineups and a bunch of guys who were willing to keep the ball moving. you also have a few knock down shooters. something we dont have outside of kuz.
so we are missing the spl ingredients that made us look better offensively than we do now.
If we have more shooters and guys were quicker with their decisions. we would've won the first 2 games.
now we would still lose to really good teams just based on talent and experience.
lastly, we are running different offensive packages/sets. things that guys are not familiar with. they got familiar with the smaller SPL packages, fairly quickly. |
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| perry731 wrote: | | Lakers seriously need to bench Randle and start Kuzma at PF. Enough is enough after how many years now?? 3yrs? Randle is not a starter material. |
kuz can score and kind of defend. but he can't rebound right now. without randle we will have NO boards. you do realize that right? Pf's should rebound the ball as well as score. not just board and not just score, but both. |
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| Nash Vegas wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Things change when you play against actual NBA players |
The semi-SPL 2nd team with Kuzma/Bryant/Blue/Ennis has actually outplayed these real NBA teams twice now. |
thank you. |
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| Nash Vegas wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Things change when you play against actual NBA players |
The semi-SPL 2nd team with Kuzma/Bryant/Blue/Ennis has actually outplayed these real NBA teams twice now. |
Do you really think in the regular season that a team like the Nuggets wouldn’t be playing their starters in the 4th? Last night both teams were playing guys in the 4th who likely won’t see much regular season playing time. But hey, our scrubs are better than yours.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Nash Vegas wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Things change when you play against actual NBA players |
The semi-SPL 2nd team with Kuzma/Bryant/Blue/Ennis has actually outplayed these real NBA teams twice now. |
Do you really think in the regular season that a team like the Nuggets wouldn’t be playing their starters in the 4th? Last night both teams were playing guys in the 4th who likely won’t see much regular season playing time. But hey, our scrubs are better than yours. |
Nah man that SL lineup would kill it against NBA starting talent cuz you know they did win the championship this summer. |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Nash Vegas wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Things change when you play against actual NBA players |
The semi-SPL 2nd team with Kuzma/Bryant/Blue/Ennis has actually outplayed these real NBA teams twice now. |
Do you really think in the regular season that a team like the Nuggets wouldn’t be playing their starters in the 4th? Last night both teams were playing guys in the 4th who likely won’t see much regular season playing time. But hey, our scrubs are better than yours. |
Back to OP's original point, there was more ball movement on the SL team. He's right. We have Ingram & Randle pounding the ball trying to prove themselves. Do you think Pop would be okay with this if he was our coach? |
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| AFireInside619 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Nash Vegas wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Things change when you play against actual NBA players |
The semi-SPL 2nd team with Kuzma/Bryant/Blue/Ennis has actually outplayed these real NBA teams twice now. |
Do you really think in the regular season that a team like the Nuggets wouldn’t be playing their starters in the 4th? Last night both teams were playing guys in the 4th who likely won’t see much regular season playing time. But hey, our scrubs are better than yours. |
Back to OP's original point, there was more ball movement on the SL team. He's right. We have Ingram & Randle pounding the ball trying to prove themselves. Do you think Pop would be okay with this if he was our coach? |
If that is what Pop wanted them to do.
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