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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:35 pm    Post subject:

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The reality may be that your hope truly should be put in our young talent developing instead of in a free agent to swoop in and change things overnight.


I definitely think we should hold onto the rooks and BI and look a few years down the line. I just want something to happen, not sure what.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:37 pm    Post subject:

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The reality may be that your hope truly should be put in our young talent developing instead of in a free agent to swoop in and change things overnight.


I definitely think we should hold onto the rooks and BI and look a few years down the line. I just want something to happen, not sure what.


I think we should hope for the FA and our young developing.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:48 pm    Post subject:

Wow.
WB was 11 rebs away from a 20/20/20 triple double? Lol.
Okc had 4 guys with 20+ points.
Klove only played 3 mins due to sickness.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:14 pm    Post subject:

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The reality may be that your hope truly should be put in our young talent developing instead of in a free agent to swoop in and change things overnight.


Kinky didn’t and they went from 31 wins to probably 3rd seed. Traded for butler and spent the cap on veterans. That’s the blueprint. Get that vet Star via trade or FA and add to young 30 win core.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:31 pm    Post subject:

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MJST wrote:
The reality may be that your hope truly should be put in our young talent developing instead of in a free agent to swoop in and change things overnight.


Kinky didn’t and they went from 31 wins to probably 3rd seed. Traded for butler and spent the cap on veterans. That’s the blueprint. Get that vet Star via trade or FA and add to young 30 win core.

There are indeed many ways to build a winner. It doesn't have to be an all or nothing strategy.
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The reality may be that your hope truly should be put in our young talent developing instead of in a free agent to swoop in and change things overnight.


Kinky didn’t and they went from 31 wins to probably 3rd seed. Traded for butler and spent the cap on veterans. That’s the blueprint. Get that vet Star via trade or FA and add to young 30 win core.


is this a sex reference
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:34 pm    Post subject:

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MJST wrote:
The reality may be that your hope truly should be put in our young talent developing instead of in a free agent to swoop in and change things overnight.


Kinky didn’t and they went from 31 wins to probably 3rd seed. Traded for butler and spent the cap on veterans. That’s the blueprint. Get that vet Star via trade or FA and add to young 30 win core.


is this a sex reference


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:47 pm    Post subject:

Lol. Minny.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:48 pm    Post subject:

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MJST wrote:
The reality may be that your hope truly should be put in our young talent developing instead of in a free agent to swoop in and change things overnight.


Kinky didn’t and they went from 31 wins to probably 3rd seed. Traded for butler and spent the cap on veterans. That’s the blueprint. Get that vet Star via trade or FA and add to young 30 win core.

There are indeed many ways to build a winner. It doesn't have to be an all or nothing strategy.


Sure. But they are showing how 1 max level player and 2 vets (Teague and taj) chanted thjngs dramatically.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:00 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
trablos wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
MJST wrote:
The reality may be that your hope truly should be put in our young talent developing instead of in a free agent to swoop in and change things overnight.


Kinky didn’t and they went from 31 wins to probably 3rd seed. Traded for butler and spent the cap on veterans. That’s the blueprint. Get that vet Star via trade or FA and add to young 30 win core.

There are indeed many ways to build a winner. It doesn't have to be an all or nothing strategy.


Sure. But they are showing how 1 max level player and 2 vets (Teague and taj) chanted thjngs dramatically.


We don't have anyone like Towns yet.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:12 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
MJST wrote:
The reality may be that your hope truly should be put in our young talent developing instead of in a free agent to swoop in and change things overnight.


Kinky didn’t and they went from 31 wins to probably 3rd seed. Traded for butler and spent the cap on veterans. That’s the blueprint. Get that vet Star via trade or FA and add to young 30 win core.


Nope Kinky didn't and they still aren't going to win till golden State falls off and by the time they do, Butler will be gone and they'll wish they still had Lavine.

also as it stands, our team is a ways away from 31 wins and a piece away from the 3rd seed.

Also no one on this team is playing at a level like Towns yet.

When our team is a consistent 31-35 win looking team and got talent playing close to an all star level, then we can start looking at things like that.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:19 pm    Post subject:

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MJST wrote:
The reality may be that your hope truly should be put in our young talent developing instead of in a free agent to swoop in and change things overnight.


Kinky didn’t and they went from 31 wins to probably 3rd seed. Traded for butler and spent the cap on veterans. That’s the blueprint. Get that vet Star via trade or FA and add to young 30 win core.


Nope Kinky didn't and they still aren't going to win till golden State falls off and by the time they do, Butler will be gone and they'll wish they still had Lavine.

also as it stands, our team is a ways away from 31 wins and a piece away from the 3rd seed.

Also no one on this team is playing at a level like Towns yet.

When our team is a consistent 31-35 win looking team and got talent playing close to an all star level, then we can start looking at things like that.


So will Barton will get us to the promise land. Gotcha. Kinky indeed.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:27 pm    Post subject:

LakerLogic wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
trablos wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
MJST wrote:
The reality may be that your hope truly should be put in our young talent developing instead of in a free agent to swoop in and change things overnight.


Kinky didn’t and they went from 31 wins to probably 3rd seed. Traded for butler and spent the cap on veterans. That’s the blueprint. Get that vet Star via trade or FA and add to young 30 win core.

There are indeed many ways to build a winner. It doesn't have to be an all or nothing strategy.


Sure. But they are showing how 1 max level player and 2 vets (Teague and taj) chanted thjngs dramatically.


We don't have anyone like Towns yet.


That's fine. I'll take the combination of our young guys (Lonzo, BI, Kuz) overt Towns. Who's their second top young prospect? Tyus Jones...

Point stands. You add one top guy and solid players and we'll be back in the playoffs.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:36 pm    Post subject:

The only difference I see with Minnesota compared to LA is that they have been fortunate enough not to throw away games this year they have also been relatively injury free this year there only injury was to Teague and he came back in only like 3 games...

There vets have made sure they don’t go on a down slide that is the big thing with them.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:47 pm    Post subject:

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yinoma2001 wrote:
MJST wrote:
The reality may be that your hope truly should be put in our young talent developing instead of in a free agent to swoop in and change things overnight.


Kinky didn’t and they went from 31 wins to probably 3rd seed. Traded for butler and spent the cap on veterans. That’s the blueprint. Get that vet Star via trade or FA and add to young 30 win core.

There are indeed many ways to build a winner. It doesn't have to be an all or nothing strategy.


Sure. But they are showing how 1 max level player and 2 vets (Teague and taj) chanted thjngs dramatically.

I feel you. Some people however have their hearts set on riding every draft pick and young player for 10+ years while we may never get beyond fighting for a playoff spot, while others would prefer blowing up our young core for a few good years of superstars.

I prefer a mix of both.
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trablos wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
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yinoma2001 wrote:
MJST wrote:
The reality may be that your hope truly should be put in our young talent developing instead of in a free agent to swoop in and change things overnight.


Kinky didn’t and they went from 31 wins to probably 3rd seed. Traded for butler and spent the cap on veterans. That’s the blueprint. Get that vet Star via trade or FA and add to young 30 win core.

There are indeed many ways to build a winner. It doesn't have to be an all or nothing strategy.


Sure. But they are showing how 1 max level player and 2 vets (Teague and taj) chanted thjngs dramatically.

I feel you. Some people however have their hearts set on riding every draft pick and young player for 10+ years while we may never get beyond fighting for a playoff spot, while others would prefer blowing up our young core for a few good years of superstars.

I prefer a mix of both.


Getting 2 max FA players likely means Lonzo/BI/Kuz/one of jc or jules/hart/nance/Bryant and nance remain. Is that not a sufficient mix?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:54 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
MJST wrote:
The reality may be that your hope truly should be put in our young talent developing instead of in a free agent to swoop in and change things overnight.


Kinky didn’t and they went from 31 wins to probably 3rd seed. Traded for butler and spent the cap on veterans. That’s the blueprint. Get that vet Star via trade or FA and add to young 30 win core.


Nope Kinky didn't and they still aren't going to win till golden State falls off and by the time they do, Butler will be gone and they'll wish they still had Lavine.

I've heard this over and over, and it reeks of loser mentality. This is professional sports where anything can happen. Whose to say our young players don't make serious improvements while playing with a surefire all star and give GS some serious trouble? Heck the pups look like they can reach that level in a year or two, why would Butler leave that?

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also as it stands, our team is a ways away from 31 wins and a piece away from the 3rd seed.

We are trending towards 30 something wins, are we gonna nitpick over a few games? We are basically in a position where we have a promising group that is looking like they have a solid chance at the playoffs next year, so we are in the same spot as the Wolves were last year essentially.

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Also no one on this team is playing at a level like Towns yet.

When our team is a consistent 31-35 win looking team and got talent playing close to an all star level, then we can start looking at things like that.

Ball/BI/Kuz have shown all star potentially and are on a clear trajectory upward, Ball especially is a dream teammate as many around the league have expressed. I'm not sure why you are so pessimistic about our group when we clearly are improving and putting ourselves in an attractive position for a star who wants to take us to that next level.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:56 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
trablos wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
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yinoma2001 wrote:
MJST wrote:
The reality may be that your hope truly should be put in our young talent developing instead of in a free agent to swoop in and change things overnight.


Kinky didn’t and they went from 31 wins to probably 3rd seed. Traded for butler and spent the cap on veterans. That’s the blueprint. Get that vet Star via trade or FA and add to young 30 win core.

There are indeed many ways to build a winner. It doesn't have to be an all or nothing strategy.


Sure. But they are showing how 1 max level player and 2 vets (Teague and taj) chanted thjngs dramatically.

I feel you. Some people however have their hearts set on riding every draft pick and young player for 10+ years while we may never get beyond fighting for a playoff spot, while others would prefer blowing up our young core for a few good years of superstars.

I prefer a mix of both.


Getting 2 max FA players likely means Lonzo/BI/Kuz/one of jc or jules/hart/nance/Bryant and nance remain. Is that not a sufficient mix?

I would be good with 1 max, but even with 2, hell yeah that is a good mix. If you had asked us at the beginning of the year would you give up one of JC,Jules, Hart, Nance, Bryant, or Nance for a chance at an All Star, I don't think it would be a difficult answer lol.
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Cavs have been awful off late. OKC themselves were in a slump before they started playing bad teams(Lakers, Kings). Even lost to Suns and Hornets before that. Let's see how good they are once they start playing in form teams.


There lack of depth will eventually catch up to them at some point and at that point I expect them to start losing games more regularly.


I want LeBron to suffer in Cleveland because I don't want that drama queen here.

Let's win 25 games instead


I can't see Lebron considering us without Cousins in place already. I know he ants to play with him.


huh? How do you know that?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:09 pm    Post subject:

Clarkson knows there is a good chance he gets traded, that’s why he said after the Pacers game that he’s gonna try to help the team win while he’s still wearing the uniform....
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Clarkson knows there is a good chance he gets traded, that’s why he said after the Pacers game that he’s gonna try to help the team win while he’s still wearing the uniform....


Woj reported he desires to be traded
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adkindo wrote:
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Clarkson knows there is a good chance he gets traded, that’s why he said after the Pacers game that he’s gonna try to help the team win while he’s still wearing the uniform....


Woj reported he desires to be traded


Yep..... I do wonder who we will be trading him for, I could see Hood but then I can’t see a scenario were Jazz fans would be happy seeing there team deal with the Lakers...
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:32 pm    Post subject:

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Lol. Minny.


Minny is now Kinky
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Lol. Minny.


Minny is now Kinky


When you think of Thibs.
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Clarkson knows there is a good chance he gets traded, that’s why he said after the Pacers game that he’s gonna try to help the team win while he’s still wearing the uniform....


Woj reported he desires to be traded


Yep..... I do wonder who we will be trading him for, I could see Hood but then I can’t see a scenario were Jazz fans would be happy seeing there team deal with the Lakers...


We better land some free agents. Gonna look stupid giving Russell, Randle, Clarkson away and land no max guys. Then you're a lotto team again hoping to draft guys as good as Russell, Randle, Clarkson. LOL!
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