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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:48 pm    Post subject:

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Wow, Houston has really grown in the last 20 years.


In looking up some numbers, it might depend on which parts of each city are considered incorporated/unincorporated, as to which city is actually the largest by land area. Both are somewhere near 600 square miles, give or take.
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[Katz] Silver on if the NBA should just put the 16 best teams in the playoffs and not deal with conferences: "That is something that's gotten serious attention."

My crazy prediction of the future: LeBron going to the Lakers leads to the playoff conferences ending due to the biggest stars in the league and best 2 teams being the Warriors & Lakers. Best 16 teams in the playoffs makes the most sense and much more intriguing than the current playoff format.


Ya if Bron goes West.. it's in the NBAs best monetary interest to eliminate the conferences. East will have no competition for GSW, Finals will have no juice


Boston...


They're a legacy team.. but they're not competition..Not close. Hawyward is a borderline allstar in the West

If Tatum gets to Durant's level, (which I don't seeing happening at all) this Celtics team still not going to be able to compete with this Warriors team. Unless they trade for Anthony Davis or somehow able to trade for Kawhi Leonard who isn't going to re-up with the Spurs, Celtics need at least 4 All-Star players to match-up with the Warriors. Kyrie, Hayward, & Horford are a really good core, but not even close enough to match up shooting and scoring wise with the Warriors. Celtics have Kyrie who can match Curry, but now need another player the caliber of Durant to really beat the Warriors.


Yea.. you need about 3 legit stars to compete with the Warriors..they have one. Lol.


I disagree. Not everyone can mesh that many stars together and win. Houston is doing just fine with two stars


I'm with Van Gundy...GS beats Hou with minimal problems in May
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KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
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KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
USCandLakers wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
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[Katz] Silver on if the NBA should just put the 16 best teams in the playoffs and not deal with conferences: "That is something that's gotten serious attention."

My crazy prediction of the future: LeBron going to the Lakers leads to the playoff conferences ending due to the biggest stars in the league and best 2 teams being the Warriors & Lakers. Best 16 teams in the playoffs makes the most sense and much more intriguing than the current playoff format.


Ya if Bron goes West.. it's in the NBAs best monetary interest to eliminate the conferences. East will have no competition for GSW, Finals will have no juice


Boston...


They're a legacy team.. but they're not competition..Not close. Hawyward is a borderline allstar in the West

If Tatum gets to Durant's level, (which I don't seeing happening at all) this Celtics team still not going to be able to compete with this Warriors team. Unless they trade for Anthony Davis or somehow able to trade for Kawhi Leonard who isn't going to re-up with the Spurs, Celtics need at least 4 All-Star players to match-up with the Warriors. Kyrie, Hayward, & Horford are a really good core, but not even close enough to match up shooting and scoring wise with the Warriors. Celtics have Kyrie who can match Curry, but now need another player the caliber of Durant to really beat the Warriors.


Yea.. you need about 3 legit stars to compete with the Warriors..they have one. Lol.


They have 2 with the chance of either Tatum or Brown becoming the third. No one's competing with the Warriors in the next couple years, but Boston will likely be the second best team in the league as early as next season.


Why can't there be a distinction between a really good player and a star.. Hayward is not a star.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:03 pm    Post subject:

Maybe the Warriors are bored or going through the motions, but this will not be as easy as last season. They haven’t looked like a championship team, something seems off. They might get it all together May/June, but right now they don’t look like that unbeatable team that many think they are...
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KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
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KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
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[Katz] Silver on if the NBA should just put the 16 best teams in the playoffs and not deal with conferences: "That is something that's gotten serious attention."

My crazy prediction of the future: LeBron going to the Lakers leads to the playoff conferences ending due to the biggest stars in the league and best 2 teams being the Warriors & Lakers. Best 16 teams in the playoffs makes the most sense and much more intriguing than the current playoff format.


Ya if Bron goes West.. it's in the NBAs best monetary interest to eliminate the conferences. East will have no competition for GSW, Finals will have no juice


Boston...


They're a legacy team.. but they're not competition..Not close. Hawyward is a borderline allstar in the West

If Tatum gets to Durant's level, (which I don't seeing happening at all) this Celtics team still not going to be able to compete with this Warriors team. Unless they trade for Anthony Davis or somehow able to trade for Kawhi Leonard who isn't going to re-up with the Spurs, Celtics need at least 4 All-Star players to match-up with the Warriors. Kyrie, Hayward, & Horford are a really good core, but not even close enough to match up shooting and scoring wise with the Warriors. Celtics have Kyrie who can match Curry, but now need another player the caliber of Durant to really beat the Warriors.


Yea.. you need about 3 legit stars to compete with the Warriors..they have one. Lol.


They have 2 with the chance of either Tatum or Brown becoming the third. No one's competing with the Warriors in the next couple years, but Boston will likely be the second best team in the league as early as next season.


Why can't there be a distinction between a really good player and a star.. Hayward is not a star.


There is. I just disagree on which of those groups he belongs to.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:12 pm    Post subject:

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Maybe the Warriors are bored or going through the motions, but this will not be as easy as last season. They haven’t looked like a championship team, something seems off. They might get it all together May/June, but right now they don’t look like that unbeatable team that many think they are...


I agree that it won't be as easy, but when you've played as much basketball as these guys have played over the past 3 seasons, it feels like they are going through the motions for much of the regular season. You have to pick your spots. They know that better than anyone. In that amazing season two seasons ago, they failed to win the championship, and part of that was because they expended so much energy to get the wins record, that they were a bit spent during the playoffs. Remember, they were lucky just to get by the Thunder even before the Finals. Everyone talks about how they blew the 3-1 lead in the Finals, but they almost lost to OKC and probably should have.

It's also why I am not just anointing them as the champion next season or certainly after that. If we could get LeBron and PG, I'm conceding nothing to that team.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:17 pm    Post subject:

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Maybe the Warriors are bored or going through the motions, but this will not be as easy as last season. They haven’t looked like a championship team, something seems off. They might get it all together May/June, but right now they don’t look like that unbeatable team that many think they are...


I agree that it won't be as easy, but when you've played as much basketball as these guys have played over the past 3 seasons, it feels like they are going through the motions for much of the regular season. You have to pick your spots. They know that better than anyone. In that amazing season two seasons ago, they failed to win the championship, and part of that was because they expended so much energy to get the wins record, that they were a bit spent during the playoffs. Remember, they were lucky just to get by the Thunder even before the Finals. Everyone talks about how they blew the 3-1 lead in the Finals, but they almost lost to OKC and probably should have.

It's also why I am not just anointing them as the champion next season or certainly after that. If we could get LeBron and PG, I'm conceding nothing to that team.


I don't think that had anything to do with them losing. The Thunder were simply more talented than they were, and a suspension and an injury did them in against Cleveland.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:24 pm    Post subject:

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Maybe the Warriors are bored or going through the motions, but this will not be as easy as last season. They haven’t looked like a championship team, something seems off. They might get it all together May/June, but right now they don’t look like that unbeatable team that many think they are...


I agree that it won't be as easy, but when you've played as much basketball as these guys have played over the past 3 seasons, it feels like they are going through the motions for much of the regular season. You have to pick your spots. They know that better than anyone. In that amazing season two seasons ago, they failed to win the championship, and part of that was because they expended so much energy to get the wins record, that they were a bit spent during the playoffs. Remember, they were lucky just to get by the Thunder even before the Finals. Everyone talks about how they blew the 3-1 lead in the Finals, but they almost lost to OKC and probably should have.

It's also why I am not just anointing them as the champion next season or certainly after that. If we could get LeBron and PG, I'm conceding nothing to that team.


I don't think that had anything to do with them losing. The Thunder were simply more talented than they were, and a suspension and an injury did them in against Cleveland.


Steph was not 100%, if I recall correctly, and I absolutely believe it was a factor. I think they've talked about it, from what I remember. Last year, they noticeably took it much easier during the regular season, and the same with this season. Kerr has basically turned into Popovich with how he gives his guys periodic rest. They didn't do that during the chase for the wins record.
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Oklahoma City is the capital of the U.S. state of Oklahoma. It's known for its cowboy culture and capitol complex, surrounded by working oil wells. The reflecting pool and empty glass and bronze chairs of the Oklahoma City National Memorial recall the victims of the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. The Survivor Tree, an American elm nearly destroyed in the attack, is also part of the memorial.
Population:638,367 (2016)
Elevation:1,201′
Metro population:1,373,211


https://goo.gl/maps/63SxTDK3HPM2


Should also note that at one time OKC had KD/Harden/WB on the same team but decided to break it all up piece by piece.


Before their primes too. Could have been a dynasty if they valued winning over profits.
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Oklahoma City is the capital of the U.S. state of Oklahoma. It's known for its cowboy culture and capitol complex, surrounded by working oil wells. The reflecting pool and empty glass and bronze chairs of the Oklahoma City National Memorial recall the victims of the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. The Survivor Tree, an American elm nearly destroyed in the attack, is also part of the memorial.
Population:638,367 (2016)
Elevation:1,201′
Metro population:1,373,211


https://goo.gl/maps/63SxTDK3HPM2


Should also note that at one time OKC had KD/Harden/WB on the same team but decided to break it all up piece by piece.


Before their primes too. Could have been a dynasty if they valued winning over profits.


A screw-up of epic proportions. They let James Harden get away over a few million dollars, and/or amnestying Kendrick Perkins.
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ChickenStu wrote:
scooterp10 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
mookielala wrote:
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Oklahoma City is the capital of the U.S. state of Oklahoma. It's known for its cowboy culture and capitol complex, surrounded by working oil wells. The reflecting pool and empty glass and bronze chairs of the Oklahoma City National Memorial recall the victims of the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. The Survivor Tree, an American elm nearly destroyed in the attack, is also part of the memorial.
Population:638,367 (2016)
Elevation:1,201′
Metro population:1,373,211


https://goo.gl/maps/63SxTDK3HPM2


Should also note that at one time OKC had KD/Harden/WB on the same team but decided to break it all up piece by piece.


Before their primes too. Could have been a dynasty if they valued winning over profits.


A screw-up of epic proportions. They let James Harden get away over a few million dollars, and/or amnestying Kendrick Perkins.


Hopefully we don't do the same thing with Julius.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:15 pm    Post subject:

scooterp10 wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
scooterp10 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
mookielala wrote:
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Oklahoma City is the capital of the U.S. state of Oklahoma. It's known for its cowboy culture and capitol complex, surrounded by working oil wells. The reflecting pool and empty glass and bronze chairs of the Oklahoma City National Memorial recall the victims of the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. The Survivor Tree, an American elm nearly destroyed in the attack, is also part of the memorial.
Population:638,367 (2016)
Elevation:1,201′
Metro population:1,373,211


https://goo.gl/maps/63SxTDK3HPM2


Should also note that at one time OKC had KD/Harden/WB on the same team but decided to break it all up piece by piece.


Before their primes too. Could have been a dynasty if they valued winning over profits.


A screw-up of epic proportions. They let James Harden get away over a few million dollars, and/or amnestying Kendrick Perkins.


Hopefully we don't do the same thing with Julius.


Considering Julius is no where near what harden was at that time, including sixth man of the year, we don't have anything to worry about if he leaves
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:03 pm    Post subject:

Warriors have a different gear than everyone else. Don't be fooled by regular season Warriors in the 4th year of their run. Rockets are outstanding so if they stay healthy that would be a different challenge than they got last year. Unfortunately for the Rockets they can be a great team that in a different year might win a championship but facts are they are still in the Warriors era.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:06 pm    Post subject:

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Maybe the Warriors are bored or going through the motions, but this will not be as easy as last season. They haven’t looked like a championship team, something seems off. They might get it all together May/June, but right now they don’t look like that unbeatable team that many think they are...


I agree that it won't be as easy, but when you've played as much basketball as these guys have played over the past 3 seasons, it feels like they are going through the motions for much of the regular season. You have to pick your spots. They know that better than anyone. In that amazing season two seasons ago, they failed to win the championship, and part of that was because they expended so much energy to get the wins record, that they were a bit spent during the playoffs. Remember, they were lucky just to get by the Thunder even before the Finals. Everyone talks about how they blew the 3-1 lead in the Finals, but they almost lost to OKC and probably should have.

It's also why I am not just anointing them as the champion next season or certainly after that. If we could get LeBron and PG, I'm conceding nothing to that team.


For sure, they still get the benefit of the doubt. It’s most likely just pacing themselves just like the Cavs did prior to this year.

We will find out in May and June.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:38 pm    Post subject:

LeBron + pg can take down the warriors

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Kyle Kuzma and Ingram already have more commercials than Paul and he's an Allstar


This. You naysayers are corrrect that endorsement opportunities are more prevelant than ever. However, there are very few inner city opportunities in OKC and the exposure they provide. There are countless more car dealerships in LA proper not to mention expos from LA to south Orange County begging for a draw to their corner of the room. True, Kevin Durant made A movie, albeit somewhat iffy in terms of its production value or advancing the overall outcome of advancing his KD’s reputation. How many lead roles is George pulling in as 2nd fiddle in OKC? This is his shot at being the star for an up n coming team to which Hollywood is desperate for. I think many of us are misreading the room here.
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Kyle Kuzma and Ingram already have more commercials than Paul and he's an Allstar


This. You naysayers are corrrect that endorsement opportunities are more prevelant than ever. However, there are very few inner city opportunities in OKC and the exposure they provide. There are countless more car dealerships in LA proper not to mention expos from LA to south Orange County begging for a draw to their corner of the room. True, Kevin Durant made A movie, albeit somewhat iffy in terms of its production value or advancing the overall outcome of advancing his KD’s reputation. How many lead roles is George pulling in as 2nd fiddle in OKC? This is his shot at being the star for an up n coming team to which Hollywood is desperate for. I think many of us are misreading the room here.
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scooterp10 wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
scooterp10 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
mookielala wrote:
Quote:
Oklahoma City is the capital of the U.S. state of Oklahoma. It's known for its cowboy culture and capitol complex, surrounded by working oil wells. The reflecting pool and empty glass and bronze chairs of the Oklahoma City National Memorial recall the victims of the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. The Survivor Tree, an American elm nearly destroyed in the attack, is also part of the memorial.
Population:638,367 (2016)
Elevation:1,201′
Metro population:1,373,211


https://goo.gl/maps/63SxTDK3HPM2


Should also note that at one time OKC had KD/Harden/WB on the same team but decided to break it all up piece by piece.


Before their primes too. Could have been a dynasty if they valued winning over profits.


A screw-up of epic proportions. They let James Harden get away over a few million dollars, and/or amnestying Kendrick Perkins.


Hopefully we don't do the same thing with Julius.



Julius is not in the same league with Harden.
Maybe three steps below?
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rogers49 wrote:
scooterp10 wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
scooterp10 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
mookielala wrote:
Quote:
Oklahoma City is the capital of the U.S. state of Oklahoma. It's known for its cowboy culture and capitol complex, surrounded by working oil wells. The reflecting pool and empty glass and bronze chairs of the Oklahoma City National Memorial recall the victims of the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. The Survivor Tree, an American elm nearly destroyed in the attack, is also part of the memorial.
Population:638,367 (2016)
Elevation:1,201′
Metro population:1,373,211


https://goo.gl/maps/63SxTDK3HPM2


Should also note that at one time OKC had KD/Harden/WB on the same team but decided to break it all up piece by piece.


Before their primes too. Could have been a dynasty if they valued winning over profits.


A screw-up of epic proportions. They let James Harden get away over a few million dollars, and/or amnestying Kendrick Perkins.


Hopefully we don't do the same thing with Julius.



Julius is not in the same league with Harden.
Maybe three steps below?


Three steps below? You're being kind.
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rogers49 wrote:
scooterp10 wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
scooterp10 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
mookielala wrote:
Quote:
Oklahoma City is the capital of the U.S. state of Oklahoma. It's known for its cowboy culture and capitol complex, surrounded by working oil wells. The reflecting pool and empty glass and bronze chairs of the Oklahoma City National Memorial recall the victims of the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. The Survivor Tree, an American elm nearly destroyed in the attack, is also part of the memorial.
Population:638,367 (2016)
Elevation:1,201′
Metro population:1,373,211


https://goo.gl/maps/63SxTDK3HPM2


Should also note that at one time OKC had KD/Harden/WB on the same team but decided to break it all up piece by piece.


Before their primes too. Could have been a dynasty if they valued winning over profits.


A screw-up of epic proportions. They let James Harden get away over a few million dollars, and/or amnestying Kendrick Perkins.


Hopefully we don't do the same thing with Julius.



Julius is not in the same league with Harden.
Maybe three steps below?


I don't think Harden was held in high regard around that time. He was a sixth man who didn't show up in the finals. That's not really far from from where Jules in viewed right now. I'm not saying Jules is gonna be what harden is today because I don't believe that. But in terms of the value they both had I don't think it's as lopsided as you're thinking
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:27 am    Post subject:

Car54 wrote:
rogers49 wrote:
scooterp10 wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
scooterp10 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
mookielala wrote:
Quote:
Oklahoma City is the capital of the U.S. state of Oklahoma. It's known for its cowboy culture and capitol complex, surrounded by working oil wells. The reflecting pool and empty glass and bronze chairs of the Oklahoma City National Memorial recall the victims of the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. The Survivor Tree, an American elm nearly destroyed in the attack, is also part of the memorial.
Population:638,367 (2016)
Elevation:1,201′
Metro population:1,373,211


https://goo.gl/maps/63SxTDK3HPM2


Should also note that at one time OKC had KD/Harden/WB on the same team but decided to break it all up piece by piece.


Before their primes too. Could have been a dynasty if they valued winning over profits.


A screw-up of epic proportions. They let James Harden get away over a few million dollars, and/or amnestying Kendrick Perkins.


Hopefully we don't do the same thing with Julius.



Julius is not in the same league with Harden.
Maybe three steps below?


I don't think Harden was held in high regard around that time. He was a sixth man who didn't show up in the finals. That's not really far from from where Jules in viewed right now. I'm not saying Jules is gonna be what harden is today because I don't believe that. But in terms of the value they both had I don't think it's as lopsided as you're thinking

JC has also been in discussion of 6th MOY
I think if talking about potentials, it's not a gulf of difference between young Harden and young Julius... it's just that Harden was a jackpot, Jules is still a mistery
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:45 am    Post subject:

governator wrote:
Car54 wrote:
rogers49 wrote:
scooterp10 wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
scooterp10 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
mookielala wrote:
Quote:
Oklahoma City is the capital of the U.S. state of Oklahoma. It's known for its cowboy culture and capitol complex, surrounded by working oil wells. The reflecting pool and empty glass and bronze chairs of the Oklahoma City National Memorial recall the victims of the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. The Survivor Tree, an American elm nearly destroyed in the attack, is also part of the memorial.
Population:638,367 (2016)
Elevation:1,201′
Metro population:1,373,211


https://goo.gl/maps/63SxTDK3HPM2


Should also note that at one time OKC had KD/Harden/WB on the same team but decided to break it all up piece by piece.


Before their primes too. Could have been a dynasty if they valued winning over profits.


A screw-up of epic proportions. They let James Harden get away over a few million dollars, and/or amnestying Kendrick Perkins.


Hopefully we don't do the same thing with Julius.



Julius is not in the same league with Harden.
Maybe three steps below?


I don't think Harden was held in high regard around that time. He was a sixth man who didn't show up in the finals. That's not really far from from where Jules in viewed right now. I'm not saying Jules is gonna be what harden is today because I don't believe that. But in terms of the value they both had I don't think it's as lopsided as you're thinking

JC has also been in discussion of 6th MOY
I think if talking about potentials, it's not a gulf of difference between young Harden and young Julius... it's just that Harden was a jackpot, Jules is still a mistery


Agreed
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Paul George just the latest homegrown star to feel Lakers’ love in free agency

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Asked Saturday if he already knew what he would do this summer, George responded, “I don’t.”

If he had left it there, the comments would have been innocuous enough.

“I know what I feel is best,” he said, “but it’s a long ways until the end of the season.”

Maybe, then, he does know.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:38 am    Post subject:

I'm very confident that PG is coming to L.A., and I expect LeBron to also. Hopefully the Lakers can find a way to hold on to JR. Even without picking up anybody else, a 10-man rotation of Lonzo, BI, PG, LeBron, Randle, Kuz, Hart, Zu, Bryant, and Caruso would be tremendous:

Lonzo/BI/Caruso
BI/PG/Hart
PG/LeBron/Hart
LeBron/Kuz/Randle
Randle/Zu/Bryant

I am salivating at the suffocating defense, especially in the playoffs when LeBron kicks into higher gear after cruising a bit in the regular season. To be honest, I think this team could win the championship next year.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:39 am    Post subject:

WE WANT PAUL!
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