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babyskyhook Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:23 am Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | OKC getting ousted by a Kawhi-less Spurs in the 1st round would cement PG13 coming.. hell any 1st round loss.. but that would be hilarious |
it could cement George leaving OKC.
But just because he left OKC wouldn't automatically mean he'd be coming to the Lakers.
Depends what Houston, Washington, Boston, Cleveland, etc does as well. |
PG isn’t taking the mle.
None of those teams except Houston have the ability to open up max cap space, and Houston would have to gut their roster to do it. The Rockets would probably do that for Lebron, and CP3 might take a discount for Lebron, which would be needed to make it work in Houston, but I don’t see that happening for PG. Can’t see him going there. |
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Wildchild027 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:04 am Post subject: |
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babyskyhook wrote: | MJST wrote: | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | OKC getting ousted by a Kawhi-less Spurs in the 1st round would cement PG13 coming.. hell any 1st round loss.. but that would be hilarious |
it could cement George leaving OKC.
But just because he left OKC wouldn't automatically mean he'd be coming to the Lakers.
Depends what Houston, Washington, Boston, Cleveland, etc does as well. |
PG isn’t taking the mle.
None of those teams except Houston have the ability to open up max cap space, and Houston would have to gut their roster to do it. The Rockets would probably do that for Lebron, and CP3 might take a discount for Lebron, which would be needed to make it work in Houston, but I don’t see that happening for PG. Can’t see him going there. |
He's just trying to be different. He knows that George isn't going to Houston, Boston or whatever. He thought that the Thunder only had to replace Roberson, and they would start to click. They have been below average since he went down. |
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Wildchild027 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:07 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | To be fair, I do think WB/PG13/Adams can create some problems for the Warriors/Houston, but I think the lack of OKC's depth will come back to haunt them. Very top heavy. |
They may have the worse roster in the league outside their top 4. I mean, Grant, Huertis, Felton, Abrines, Ferguson. Golden State bench is bad too, but at least they have guys who have perform before. |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:08 am Post subject: |
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if GSW wins the title this season....wins the Finals in 5 or 6 games....and Lebron tried to go to GSW for the MLE.....would the NBA step in and stop him? for basketball reasons? |
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trablos Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:11 am Post subject: |
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OKC would have been better off acquiring PG and not trading for Melo. Would have had a much brighter cap situation going forward as well. |
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chantruong Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:13 am Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | if GSW wins the title this season....wins the Finals in 5 or 6 games....and Lebron tried to go to GSW for the MLE.....would the NBA step in and stop him? for basketball reasons? |
Doesn't the CBA have a provision to prevent players from taking way less than they are worth? |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:16 am Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | if GSW wins the title this season....wins the Finals in 5 or 6 games....and Lebron tried to go to GSW for the MLE.....would the NBA step in and stop him? for basketball reasons? |
No, there is no mechanism that prohibits that. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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PRLakeShow Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:17 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | adkindo wrote: | if GSW wins the title this season....wins the Finals in 5 or 6 games....and Lebron tried to go to GSW for the MLE.....would the NBA step in and stop him? for basketball reasons? |
No, there is no mechanism that prohibits that. |
Easy. Basketball reasons. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:18 am Post subject: |
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PRLakeShow wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | adkindo wrote: | if GSW wins the title this season....wins the Finals in 5 or 6 games....and Lebron tried to go to GSW for the MLE.....would the NBA step in and stop him? for basketball reasons? |
No, there is no mechanism that prohibits that. |
Easy. Basketball reasons. |
That isn’t in the CBA. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:33 am Post subject: |
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PRLakeShow wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | adkindo wrote: | if GSW wins the title this season....wins the Finals in 5 or 6 games....and Lebron tried to go to GSW for the MLE.....would the NBA step in and stop him? for basketball reasons? |
No, there is no mechanism that prohibits that. |
Easy. Basketball reasons. |
Suddenly, NBA finds that LBJ took PEDs. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:46 am Post subject: |
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trablos wrote: | OKC would have been better off acquiring PG and not trading for Melo. Would have had a much brighter cap situation going forward as well. |
I think they'd still rather have Melo over Kanter/McBuckets this year.
If they can resign Melo to 3 years/54 mil, his cap figure next year would be the same as Kanter's. |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:03 am Post subject: |
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pjiddy wrote: | trablos wrote: | OKC would have been better off acquiring PG and not trading for Melo. Would have had a much brighter cap situation going forward as well. |
I think they'd still rather have Melo over Kanter/McBuckets this year.
If they can resign Melo to 3 years/54 mil, his cap figure next year would be the same as Kanter's. |
I think people are actually underestimating Melo's value at this point. I have never been a fan of his game....but the guy is putting up 17-18 points a night....and no defense is leaving him open....he still has a lot of gravity of the court which likely helps open things up for Russ and PG-13. |
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PRLakeShow Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:10 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | PRLakeShow wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | adkindo wrote: | if GSW wins the title this season....wins the Finals in 5 or 6 games....and Lebron tried to go to GSW for the MLE.....would the NBA step in and stop him? for basketball reasons? |
No, there is no mechanism that prohibits that. |
Easy. Basketball reasons. |
That isn’t in the CBA. |
Oh yeah sorry, that's only used against the Lakers. Duh. How dumb of me. |
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golakersgo121 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:16 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | PRLakeShow wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | adkindo wrote: | if GSW wins the title this season....wins the Finals in 5 or 6 games....and Lebron tried to go to GSW for the MLE.....would the NBA step in and stop him? for basketball reasons? |
No, there is no mechanism that prohibits that. |
Easy. Basketball reasons. |
That isn’t in the CBA. |
There is, actually. The definition of the circumvention is very vague and, basically, can be used at any time. One "justification" (first one that comes to mind) would be that CBA promotes and was created "to level the playing field for all teams". Not saying that I'd agree with it - but still... _________________ Major bullets dodged: DH12 - twice, LMA, Melo - twice, PG-13, DeMar DeRozan. Hit jackpot with DH-12 at the right time |
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32 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:17 am Post subject: |
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Here come the folks trying to figure out clever ways OKC can keep PG while paying less tax. smh _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
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PRLakeShow Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:26 am Post subject: |
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golakersgo121 wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | PRLakeShow wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | adkindo wrote: | if GSW wins the title this season....wins the Finals in 5 or 6 games....and Lebron tried to go to GSW for the MLE.....would the NBA step in and stop him? for basketball reasons? |
No, there is no mechanism that prohibits that. |
Easy. Basketball reasons. |
That isn’t in the CBA. |
There is, actually. The definition of the circumvention is very vague and, basically, can be used at any time. One "justification" (first one that comes to mind) would be that CBA promotes and was created "to level the playing field for all teams". Not saying that I'd agree with it - but still... |
Looks like "Basketball Reasons" to me. |
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danzag Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:27 am Post subject: |
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32 wrote: | Here come the folks trying to figure out clever ways OKC can keep PG while paying less tax. smh |
Some guys here just to want the Lakers to be good. They want the Lakers to fail just to say "I told you so". |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:30 am Post subject: |
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danzag wrote: | 32 wrote: | Here come the folks trying to figure out clever ways OKC can keep PG while paying less tax. smh |
Some guys here just to want the Lakers to be good. They want the Lakers to fail just to say "I told you so". |
Or they like discussing free agency in a free agent thread _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Dreamshake Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Car54 wrote: | BizLA wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | So if you had to choose between making a move for Anthony Davis or Kwahi who do you prefer? |
Davis. Kawhi’s injury worries me. |
I was on board for Kawhi but NBA radio mentioned his history he played 64 58 66 64 72 74 and now 9 games. It's probably best to wait for free agency for him instead of trading our guys away. |
Wow, that's a lot of missed games. |
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SDLakersFan Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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Car54 wrote: | I'm back on the Boogie Bandwagon. I understand he has a Achilles injury but his game was never that type of game that relied on jumping high etc... I expect NO will try to go under the max now we can offer max numbers for two years. Test him out. |
If only we could sign him to a 2-year contract (second being a team option)
to evaluate him. But after suffering that injury no way he goes for that unless he's just absolutely enamored with playing for the Lakers.
yinoma2001 wrote: | To be fair, I do think WB/PG13/Adams can create some problems for the Warriors/Houston, but I think the lack of OKC's depth will come back to haunt them. Very top heavy. |
Absolutely. If they ever have to rely on their bench - they're screwed. |
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Car54 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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SDLakersFan wrote: | Car54 wrote: | I'm back on the Boogie Bandwagon. I understand he has a Achilles injury but his game was never that type of game that relied on jumping high etc... I expect NO will try to go under the max now we can offer max numbers for two years. Test him out. |
If only we could sign him to a 2-year contract (second being a team option)
to evaluate him. But after suffering that injury no way he goes for that unless he's just absolutely enamored with playing for the Lakers.
yinoma2001 wrote: | To be fair, I do think WB/PG13/Adams can create some problems for the Warriors/Houston, but I think the lack of OKC's depth will come back to haunt them. Very top heavy. |
Absolutely. If they ever have to rely on their bench - they're screwed. |
NO might not offer the full five _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
Max slot : Kawhi |
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Runway8 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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Rounding up or down, you get this...
Kevin Durant 26 pts on 52%, 42% from three, 88% free throw.
Steph Curry 27 pts on 50%, 42% from three, 92% free throw.
K. Thompson 20 pts on 50%, 45% from three, 85% free throw.
They are so good it's comical, and it's still a make or miss league. At the end of the day, I don't know if you can do anything or construct anything to beat these guys. Which then stirs up my anger again why we've given away so many young guys to create these max slots.. to do what? Play second fiddle during this Warriors reign? |
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SDLakersFan Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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Runway8 wrote: | Rounding up or down, you get this...
Kevin Durant 26 pts on 52%, 42% from three, 88% free throw.
Steph Curry 27 pts on 50%, 42% from three, 92% free throw.
K. Thompson 20 pts on 50%, 45% from three, 85% free throw.
They are so good it's comical, and it's still a make or miss league. At the end of the day, I don't know if you can do anything or construct anything to beat these guys. Which then stirs up my anger again why we've given away so many young guys to create these max slots.. to do what? Play second fiddle during this Warriors reign? |
We have to destroy them from within.
Step 1: sign Paul George
Step 2: have PG, Lonzo, Kuzma, and Randle start recruiting Klay
Step 3: Maglinka tells him he can be the man in LA and not live in everyone elses shadow |
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mookielala Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | pjiddy wrote: | trablos wrote: | OKC would have been better off acquiring PG and not trading for Melo. Would have had a much brighter cap situation going forward as well. |
I think they'd still rather have Melo over Kanter/McBuckets this year.
If they can resign Melo to 3 years/54 mil, his cap figure next year would be the same as Kanter's. |
I think people are actually underestimating Melo's value at this point. I have never been a fan of his game....but the guy is putting up 17-18 points a night....and no defense is leaving him open....he still has a lot of gravity of the court which likely helps open things up for Russ and PG-13. |
He still has a sweet jump shot. When all three guys are playing well, OKC looks formidable. Adams too. I just don't think they can survive the playoffs. |
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