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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:10 pm    Post subject:

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Where Kawhi Leonard ends up this summer 'has a direct impact' on LeBron James | SportsNation | ESPN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4_oVKEmSYI


lot of good insight from Brian Windhorst.

lets get it:
Lebron
Kawahi
Paul George


Assuming Magic/Pelinka do their research on KL's health condition and sees that's he good to go, then (bleep) it. Sign and trade Randle and Ingram for KL, sign Lebron and PG.

Ball
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Bench:
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Bryant

Let's get it.


And if the Spurs deny access to evaluate Leonard?


They can't considering Leonard would have to pass his physical in order for the trade to go through.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:10 pm    Post subject:

I know he has been....but, that doesn't mean he still doesn't have something wrong. Its his experts, versus the Spurs.....

who do you believe?

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Have to totally agree with you. Something doesn't feel right. I never thought Dwight felt right and look at how that turned out?

As much as I think Leonard is amazing and would be fantastic, he is either 1) really hurt and not healing right or 2) he is playing the Spurs, a very highly respected organization, wrong.

Both are not good.....

I think Laker fans need to think about that before we start trading Ingram, Ball, Kuz, etc....

There is huge risk here......


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Kawhi Interest on this board feels like the beginning of The Dwightmare all over again. A guy in a winning situation is unhappy for mysterious reasons. And we're assuming that in coming here, whatever his issues are that preventing him for even being on the bench for his teammates, will magically disappear once he's in a Laker jersey.

To me, he's either a high injury risk or a high locker room risk. Or, like Dwight, he might be both.

The only difference is we'd be giving up even greater assets for the Pandora's Box that is Kawhi. Dream teams can be fun to think about, but Dwightmares and Kawhitemares can take years to wake up from.


he is evaluated and cleared by Spurs Doctors since December
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:11 pm    Post subject:

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And come on...Lakers can't get PG, Lebron and Leonard....that's crack talk....smoking too much of it...


they have to trade deng/cavs pick and future 1st to get rid of him.

Kauai makes only 20m next summer
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:11 pm    Post subject:

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And come on...Lakers can't get PG, Lebron and Leonard....that's crack talk....smoking too much of it...


It could happen, just depends what or how much Lakers are willing to offer up in a trade.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:12 pm    Post subject:

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And come on...Lakers can't get PG, Lebron and Leonard....that's crack talk....smoking too much of it...


Technically they can. The event of that actually happening though is unlikely.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:13 pm    Post subject:

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I know he has been....but, that doesn't mean he still doesn't have something wrong. Its his experts, versus the Spurs.....

who do you believe?


posted a link from few hundred pages back from spurstalk. insider mentioned: Kawahi's agent wants him in LA.

no shoe company is paying Kawahi, Harden/KD kind of deal if he is in SA


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:13 pm    Post subject:

pjiddy wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
Megaton wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
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Where Kawhi Leonard ends up this summer 'has a direct impact' on LeBron James | SportsNation | ESPN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4_oVKEmSYI


lot of good insight from Brian Windhorst.

lets get it:
Lebron
Kawahi
Paul George


Assuming Magic/Pelinka do their research on KL's health condition and sees that's he good to go, then (bleep) it. Sign and trade Randle and Ingram for KL, sign Lebron and PG.

Ball
George
Leonard
James
Lopez

Bench:
25th Pick
Hart
Kuzma
Wear
Bryant

Let's get it.


And if the Spurs deny access to evaluate Leonard?


They'll probably only allow the Clippers to evaluate him...


I wouldn’t allow anyone but have no idea what the Spurs would do. I don’t remember them ever trading a top player.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:14 pm    Post subject:

I'm just looking forward to closing this topic and setting it to 2018-2019 Free Agency & Trades, I'm guessing that happens June 30th?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:14 pm    Post subject:

Leonard needs to threaten surgery or something so that we can trade Deng and Ennis for him.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:14 pm    Post subject:

Jesusdelonla wrote:
anth2000 wrote:
I know he has been....but, that doesn't mean he still doesn't have something wrong. Its his experts, versus the Spurs.....

who do you believe?


posted a link from few hundred pages back: Kawahi's agent wants him in LA.

no shoe company is paying Kawahi, Harden/KD kind of deal if he is in SA


You think he can get the shoe company to pay what he wants if he’s traded to the Clippers?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:15 pm    Post subject:

Does he really have the personality for a big shoe deal? He seems introverted to me. Perhaps that's just my observations....



Jesusdelonla wrote:
anth2000 wrote:
I know he has been....but, that doesn't mean he still doesn't have something wrong. Its his experts, versus the Spurs.....

who do you believe?


posted a link from few hundred pages back from spurstalk. insider mentioned: Kawahi's agent wants him in LA.

no shoe company is paying Kawahi, Harden/KD kind of deal if he is in SA


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:15 pm    Post subject:

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I'm just looking forward to closing this topic and setting it to 2018-2019 Free Agency & Trades, I'm guessing that happens June 30th?


Why?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:16 pm    Post subject:

anth2000 wrote:
Does he really have the personality for a big shoe deal? He seems reclusive to me. Perhaps that's just my observations....



Jesusdelonla wrote:
anth2000 wrote:
I know he has been....but, that doesn't mean he still doesn't have something wrong. Its his experts, versus the Spurs.....

who do you believe?


posted a link from few hundred pages back from spurstalk. insider mentioned: Kawahi's agent wants him in LA.

no shoe company is paying Kawahi, Harden/KD kind of deal if he is in SA


Penny Hardaway got a big shoe deal with the same kind of demeanor.

Lil Kawhi
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:18 pm    Post subject:

Good to know...

Hey, I would love PG, Kawahi and Lebron.....Damn!!!


chantruong wrote:
anth2000 wrote:
Does he really have the personality for a big shoe deal? He seems reclusive to me. Perhaps that's just my observations....



Jesusdelonla wrote:
anth2000 wrote:
I know he has been....but, that doesn't mean he still doesn't have something wrong. Its his experts, versus the Spurs.....

who do you believe?


posted a link from few hundred pages back from spurstalk. insider mentioned: Kawahi's agent wants him in LA.

no shoe company is paying Kawahi, Harden/KD kind of deal if he is in SA


Penny Hardaway got a big shoe deal with the same kind of demeanor.

Lil Kawhi
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:19 pm    Post subject:

anth2000 wrote:
Does he really have the personality for a big shoe deal? He seems introverted to me. Perhaps that's just my observations....



Jesusdelonla wrote:
anth2000 wrote:
I know he has been....but, that doesn't mean he still doesn't have something wrong. Its his experts, versus the Spurs.....

who do you believe?


posted a link from few hundred pages back from spurstalk. insider mentioned: Kawahi's agent wants him in LA.

no shoe company is paying Kawahi, Harden/KD kind of deal if he is in SA


Nike needs somebody in the LA market. there is nobody here. They will pay him big bucks.

winning takes care of everything else
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:22 pm    Post subject:

after seeing the IT episode, i am on KL side. don't come back unless his doctors clear him
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:28 pm    Post subject:

Jesusdelonla wrote:
anth2000 wrote:
I know he has been....but, that doesn't mean he still doesn't have something wrong. Its his experts, versus the Spurs.....

who do you believe?


posted a link from few hundred pages back from spurstalk. insider mentioned: Kawahi's agent wants him in LA.

no shoe company is paying Kawahi, Harden/KD kind of deal if he is in SA


His agent wants the best contract that he can negotiate for him. His business manager wants more off the court revenue. The super max is the best contract he can get while a shoe contract larger than the $20 mil he was offered would make the business manager happy.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:32 pm    Post subject:

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after seeing the IT episode, i am on KL side. don't come back unless his doctors clear him


His doctors have cleared him a long time ago, but according to Pop, his group is the one that doesn’t him to play.... that to me sounds like his time with the Spurs is over unless someone can convince him that the supermax is to tough to pass up.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:35 pm    Post subject:

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anth2000 wrote:
I know he has been....but, that doesn't mean he still doesn't have something wrong. Its his experts, versus the Spurs.....

who do you believe?


posted a link from few hundred pages back from spurstalk. insider mentioned: Kawahi's agent wants him in LA.

no shoe company is paying Kawahi, Harden/KD kind of deal if he is in SA


His agent wants the best contract that he can negotiate for him. His business manager wants more off the court revenue. The super max is the best contract he can get while a shoe contract larger than the $20 mil he was offered would make the business manager happy.


who told u the spurs are guaranteed to offer him a super max?

if they really were going to give the super max, they won't be throwing him under the buss every chance they get
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:37 pm    Post subject:

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Reports are that the Clippers are engaged in trying to trade for Leonard.


The Clippers and every other team in the NBA not named Golden State or Houston.

Windhorst reported a couple of weeks ago that teams are gearing up with offers.


why do you think GSW and Houston will not make a call....a healthy Kawhi makes both better. If they could put Durant, Steph and Kawhi on the same roster....I would no longer waste my time watching the NBA.


Because they cant afford them all.


They don’t need cap space to trade for him.



Who would they trade for him?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:38 pm    Post subject:

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after seeing the IT episode, i am on KL side. don't come back unless his doctors clear him


I agree, especially with a potential $200 mil contract in the picture
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:38 pm    Post subject:

Now we getting PG Lebron AND Kawhi
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Reports are that the Clippers are engaged in trying to trade for Leonard.


The Clippers and every other team in the NBA not named Golden State or Houston.

Windhorst reported a couple of weeks ago that teams are gearing up with offers.


why do you think GSW and Houston will not make a call....a healthy Kawhi makes both better. If they could put Durant, Steph and Kawhi on the same roster....I would no longer waste my time watching the NBA.


Because they cant afford them all.


They don’t need cap space to trade for him.



Who would they trade for him?


Whoever the Spurs and Houston/GS agree upon.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:43 pm    Post subject:

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after seeing the IT episode, i am on KL side. don't come back unless his doctors clear him


His doctors have cleared him a long time ago, but according to Pop, his group is the one that doesn’t him to play.... that to me sounds like his time with the Spurs is over unless someone can convince him that the supermax is to tough to pass up.


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Sources: Leonard still not cleared by his doctors, advised to stay in New York

https://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/Sources-Leonard-still-not-cleared-by-his-12836007.php
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:44 pm    Post subject:

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Now we getting PG Lebron AND Kawhi


It can happen, and will happen
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