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Four Decade Bandwagon
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| Sentient Meat wrote: | Funny how people will sign Brook who lost for 9 years straight but don't want Boogie whose crime is also being drafted by a bad team.
I agree we shouldn't pay Boogie anything crazy... but if he wants to come for either a cheap or shorter contract... what's the harm?
Remember these are only contingency plans if LBJ doesn't want to come. |
The harm? Isn’t it his Achilles tear? Some are being pretty optimistic that a 270lb man with a reputation for not working hard is somehow overcoming that injury and playing at a reasonable level.
If he is not expected back until after the season starts that effects his conditioning, on court preparedness with a new team and likely a good chance of setbacks and re-injury all season long. Is he better then Lopez if he only plays half a season or less?
Cousins has been a career malcontent that is lazy on defense and pouts when things don’t go his way. That changes in a Laker uniform or drags the team down? |
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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Elton Brand's injury was over 10 years ago. The tech has changed. I think Rudy Gays surgery might be more aligned? His per36 last year were close to his previous year. Wonder how he does this upcoming year.
The thing to worry about is if boogie gets other injuries by compensating for the Achilles, like Elton did |
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Sentient Meat wrote: | Funny how people will sign Brook who lost for 9 years straight but don't want Boogie whose crime is also being drafted by a bad team.
I agree we shouldn't pay Boogie anything crazy... but if he wants to come for either a cheap or shorter contract... what's the harm?
Remember these are only contingency plans if LBJ doesn't want to come. |
Boogie isn’t the first player to be drafted onto a bad team. He was part of the problem and if he really was such a great player, Sacramento should have been able to win more - maybe not 45 games, but more than 35.
When you consider that the Lakers W-L this year without a star and dealing with injuries was better than any team Boogie has been on, it should raise major concerns. |
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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What would be hilarious is if KAT is traded for the sun's pick.
And wolves pick a younger version of Rubio that they had 2 years ago. (JK on Don being Rubio) |
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I want nothing to do with Cousins after that injury. (bleep) that.
Hell even Kawhi scares me. Dude missed an entire year. |
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| With the rumors saying we have promised Mitchell Robinson at 25 would indicate that we have no hope for any 1 of Zu or Bryant being our future C.... I’m interested to see what happens to both Zu and Bryant if we add another big to the rotation. |
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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Well if we strike out on a max star player we can bring back Brook and IT to one year deals and resign Randle. We will still have the room exception. Save cap space for 2019.
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | What would be hilarious is if KAT is traded for the sun's pick.
And wolves pick a younger version of Rubio that they had 2 years ago. (JK on Don being Rubio) |
They should've kept Rubio and used the savings from Teague on Millsap. |
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | With the rumors saying we have promised Mitchell Robinson at 25 would indicate that we have no hope for any 1 of Zu or Bryant being our future C.... I’m interested to see what happens to both Zu and Bryant if we add another big to the rotation. |
They get cut or traded for a future 2nd. |
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | With the rumors saying we have promised Mitchell Robinson at 25 would indicate that we have no hope for any 1 of Zu or Bryant being our future C.... I’m interested to see what happens to both Zu and Bryant if we add another big to the rotation. |
What rumors? And it doesn't sound very Lakers-like to promise a player this far before the draft. With all the scouting and hard work they put in, it's unlikely that they've done this already.
Then again. Kuzma pulled out of the draft combined the second day. And the Lakers never released footage of his post workout, workourt. Where they have players run up and down the court and shoot (mostly 3's). And Kuzma still worked out for other teams too. |
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | With the rumors saying we have promised Mitchell Robinson at 25 would indicate that we have no hope for any 1 of Zu or Bryant being our future C.... I’m interested to see what happens to both Zu and Bryant if we add another big to the rotation. |
I bet this guy knocked down a bunch of threes in a workout like Kuzma did. If we keep Randle and Lopez, Robinson could be a good project 3rd center. I thought if anything we would trade our pick to save money. |
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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| scoobs wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | With the rumors saying we have promised Mitchell Robinson at 25 would indicate that we have no hope for any 1 of Zu or Bryant being our future C.... I’m interested to see what happens to both Zu and Bryant if we add another big to the rotation. |
I bet this guy knocked down a bunch of threes in a workout like Kuzma did. If we keep Randle and Lopez, Robinson could be a good project 3rd center. I thought if anything we would trade our pick to save money. |
He’s definitely a project, however he does have a ton of upside....so that’s the gamble they’re willing to take, supposedly. |
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| Boogie is really great in the community. Gives back and holds a lot of events and fundraisers in Sacramento and in New Orleans. Seems like a good dude at heart but just has anger issues when it comes to sports. He’s young. Ppl can mature and chance. Maybe this injury humbled him and let him know that his career won’t last forever. The hate on this dude in this forum is crazy lol. At less than a max we have to take a flier on him. |
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | With the rumors saying we have promised Mitchell Robinson at 25 would indicate that we have no hope for any 1 of Zu or Bryant being our future C.... I’m interested to see what happens to both Zu and Bryant if we add another big to the rotation. |
They get cut or traded for a future 2nd. |
I’m fairly sure that we are done with Zu. He was tasked to work on his body, he didn’t, he looked unprepared and lost in training camp last season and admitted that he should have put more work in. He wasn’t selected by the current regime, doesn’t play defense, can’t shoot the 3, isn’t athletic and his father Larry is gone. |
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| Fortysixn2 wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | With the rumors saying we have promised Mitchell Robinson at 25 would indicate that we have no hope for any 1 of Zu or Bryant being our future C.... I’m interested to see what happens to both Zu and Bryant if we add another big to the rotation. |
They get cut or traded for a future 2nd. |
I’m fairly sure that we are done with Zu. He was tasked to work on his body, he didn’t, he looked unprepared and lost in training camp last season and admitted that he should have put more work in. He wasn’t selected by the current regime, doesn’t play defense, can’t shoot the 3, isn’t athletic and his father Larry is gone. |
Most of what you say is true except for He doesn't play defense. In the two seasons I've seen him he's made our paint defense better than When we went small. He's not very athletic but he definitely shows defensively |
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| LakerMindLA wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | Sorry bad timing for Boogie. Count me out. |
Healthy or not, Boogie = losing.
I don't think there has ever been an NBA all-star that has consistently lost as much as Boogie. |
So you’re going to ignore he was leading a winning team this season before the injury.
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| Car54 wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | Sorry bad timing for Boogie. Count me out. |
Healthy or not, Boogie = losing.
I don't think there has ever been an NBA all-star that has consistently lost as much as Boogie. |
So you’re going to ignore he was leading a winning team this season before the injury. |
Anthony Davis did it with and without DeMarcus Cousins.
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| defense wrote: | | Fortysixn2 wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | With the rumors saying we have promised Mitchell Robinson at 25 would indicate that we have no hope for any 1 of Zu or Bryant being our future C.... I’m interested to see what happens to both Zu and Bryant if we add another big to the rotation. |
They get cut or traded for a future 2nd. |
I’m fairly sure that we are done with Zu. He was tasked to work on his body, he didn’t, he looked unprepared and lost in training camp last season and admitted that he should have put more work in. He wasn’t selected by the current regime, doesn’t play defense, can’t shoot the 3, isn’t athletic and his father Larry is gone. |
Most of what you say is true except for He doesn't play defense. In the two seasons I've seen him he's made our paint defense better than When we went small. He's not very athletic but he definitely shows defensively |
You are right, his defensive numbers do look better than I had thought. In watching him I got the impression that he was a poor defender, the impression I got was that he was very soft and rarely challenged anyone at the rim. I stand corrected on that, still think his contract will not be picked up. |
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | Car54 wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | Sorry bad timing for Boogie. Count me out. |
Healthy or not, Boogie = losing.
I don't think there has ever been an NBA all-star that has consistently lost as much as Boogie. |
So you’re going to ignore he was leading a winning team this season before the injury. |
Anthony Davis did it with and without DeMarcus Cousins. |
Anthony Davis didn’t start leading until the injury. Cousins was their leader and Alphadog. Even Joel Myers said it.
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | Car54 wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | Sorry bad timing for Boogie. Count me out. |
Healthy or not, Boogie = losing.
I don't think there has ever been an NBA all-star that has consistently lost as much as Boogie. |
So you’re going to ignore he was leading a winning team this season before the injury. |
Anthony Davis did it with and without DeMarcus Cousins. |
Yup. NO was better without Cousins. That isn’t a fluke.
Let’s also not act like NO was great with Cousins - they were on pace to win 45 games. |
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| Fortysixn2 wrote: | | defense wrote: | | Fortysixn2 wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | With the rumors saying we have promised Mitchell Robinson at 25 would indicate that we have no hope for any 1 of Zu or Bryant being our future C.... I’m interested to see what happens to both Zu and Bryant if we add another big to the rotation. |
They get cut or traded for a future 2nd. |
I’m fairly sure that we are done with Zu. He was tasked to work on his body, he didn’t, he looked unprepared and lost in training camp last season and admitted that he should have put more work in. He wasn’t selected by the current regime, doesn’t play defense, can’t shoot the 3, isn’t athletic and his father Larry is gone. |
Most of what you say is true except for He doesn't play defense. In the two seasons I've seen him he's made our paint defense better than When we went small. He's not very athletic but he definitely shows defensively |
You are right, his defensive numbers do look better than I had thought. In watching him I got the impression that he was a poor defender, the impression I got was that he was very soft and rarely challenged anyone at the rim. I stand corrected on that, still think his contract will not be picked up. |
Both Zubac and Thomas' contracts are so small that I don't think we'll get comparable players for as little money as they're owed. Both Zubac and Bryant's contracts will be picked up for next year even if we select Robinson, but neither are likely to get new contracts from us next off-season when they're scheduled to cash in as restricted free agents if either of them fail to show improved development of both their skill sets and their bodies. It's make or break time for the both of them. |
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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I hope Channing Frye comes back for the vet min or part of the RE.
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