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DangeRuss
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| PRLakeShow wrote: | | LakerLogic wrote: | | I don't want to stretch Deng. I'd rather trade him next year if need be. |
Sure we would all love to just wait with the hopes of signing a better FA in 2019 but you don't turn away a bird in the hand. If Cousins comes with PG, LeBron and PG, whoever, something has to be done with Deng. Plain and simple. |
I disagree with the bird in the hand premise when it comes to trying to win a title in the nba. I think you need to go after the guy you think will help you win a title even in that bird is still in the bush for another season. Teams who use the bird in the hand premise prolly are like Toronto, Memphis, just grinding their gears never getting to the promise land. So heck yeah I’d wait an extra season at the chance of getting a guy like Kawhi instead of being content with lesser. I’m not necessarily making a counterpoint to your argument as I would sign PG, Randle, and offer Cousins a one year deal and trade deng for that, just saying in the general terms like when people don’t think going after Kawhi is a good idea. PG, Randle, & 1 year deals this season, Kawhi next is my dream. |
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Car54
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| LakerMindLA wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | Car54 wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | Sorry bad timing for Boogie. Count me out. |
Healthy or not, Boogie = losing.
I don't think there has ever been an NBA all-star that has consistently lost as much as Boogie. |
So you’re going to ignore he was leading a winning team this season before the injury. |
Anthony Davis did it with and without DeMarcus Cousins. |
Yup. NO was better without Cousins. That isn’t a fluke.
Let’s also not act like NO was great with Cousins - they were on pace to win 45 games. |
45 wins is a winning record you said Cousins = losing. Make up your mind
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This would be my number one trade target. Probably cheaper than Kawhi and younger/healthier:
| LakerLogic wrote: | | https://twitter.com/Rachel__Nichols/status/997863815084756992 |
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LakerMindLA
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Car54 wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | Car54 wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | Sorry bad timing for Boogie. Count me out. |
Healthy or not, Boogie = losing.
I don't think there has ever been an NBA all-star that has consistently lost as much as Boogie. |
So you’re going to ignore he was leading a winning team this season before the injury. |
Anthony Davis did it with and without DeMarcus Cousins. |
Yup. NO was better without Cousins. That isn’t a fluke.
Let’s also not act like NO was great with Cousins - they were on pace to win 45 games. |
45 wins is a winning record you said Cousins = losing. Make up your mind |
NO got better without him. He was not the reason they were winning. It could be argued that he hurt their overall record. |
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Jesusdelonla
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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| pjiddy wrote: | This would be my number one trade target. Probably cheaper than Kawhi and younger/healthier:
| LakerLogic wrote: | | https://twitter.com/Rachel__Nichols/status/997863815084756992 |
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why cheaper? i think he would more expensive then Kawhi. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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| pjiddy wrote: | This would be my number one trade target. Probably cheaper than Kawhi and younger/healthier:
| LakerLogic wrote: | | https://twitter.com/Rachel__Nichols/status/997863815084756992 |
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The owner would have to be a cheap idiot to move KAT this early.
Wait...Glen Taylor is a cheap idiot. |
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Jesusdelonla
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | This would be my number one trade target. Probably cheaper than Kawhi and younger/healthier:
| LakerLogic wrote: | | https://twitter.com/Rachel__Nichols/status/997863815084756992 |
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The owner would have to be a cheap idiot to move KAT this early.
Wait...Glen Taylor is a cheap idiot. |
i don't know about cheap but he is idiot to trade Lauri Mark*/Dunn/Lavine for Butler/16.
i am talking about where his team was from development side. |
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pjiddy
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | This would be my number one trade target. Probably cheaper than Kawhi and younger/healthier:
| LakerLogic wrote: | | https://twitter.com/Rachel__Nichols/status/997863815084756992 |
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why cheaper? i think he would more expensive then Kawhi. |
Ingram/Zubac/Cavs 1st/Bulls 2nd |
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Lucky_Shot
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerMindLA wrote: | | Car54 wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | Car54 wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | Sorry bad timing for Boogie. Count me out. |
Healthy or not, Boogie = losing.
I don't think there has ever been an NBA all-star that has consistently lost as much as Boogie. |
So you’re going to ignore he was leading a winning team this season before the injury. |
Anthony Davis did it with and without DeMarcus Cousins. |
Yup. NO was better without Cousins. That isn’t a fluke.
Let’s also not act like NO was great with Cousins - they were on pace to win 45 games. |
45 wins is a winning record you said Cousins = losing. Make up your mind |
NO got better without him. He was not the reason they were winning. It could be argued that he hurt their overall record. |
He has played for the Kings no one is saving that team. As for NO twin towers dont work in todays game and was still top 25 in rpm before the injury. I know the forum is mostly against signing him but for the right years/price and if we dont sign two of three: PG13, LBJ, Capella I would be tempted to pull the trigger. |
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CalisFinest
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| pjiddy wrote: | | Ingram/Zubac/Cavs 1st/Bulls 2nd |
I don't see how Minny doesn't hang up the phone and block LA's number immediately with that offer lol. |
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Car54
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerMindLA wrote: | | Car54 wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | Car54 wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | Sorry bad timing for Boogie. Count me out. |
Healthy or not, Boogie = losing.
I don't think there has ever been an NBA all-star that has consistently lost as much as Boogie. |
So you’re going to ignore he was leading a winning team this season before the injury. |
Anthony Davis did it with and without DeMarcus Cousins. |
Yup. NO was better without Cousins. That isn’t a fluke.
Let’s also not act like NO was great with Cousins - they were on pace to win 45 games. |
45 wins is a winning record you said Cousins = losing. Make up your mind |
NO got better without him. He was not the reason they were winning. It could be argued that he hurt their overall record. |
False Davis had to play out of his mind which isn’t sustainable and I think you’re forgetting they brought in some more talent.
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| Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | Boogie is really great in the community. Gives back and holds a lot of events and fundraisers in Sacramento and in New Orleans. Seems like a good dude at heart but just has anger issues when it comes to sports. He’s young. Ppl can mature and chance. Maybe this injury humbled him and let him know that his career won’t last forever. The hate on this dude in this forum is crazy lol. At less than a max we have to take a flier on him. |
Not sure he still can be considered “young “ anymore.
He will be 28 years old in a couple months and eight seasons as a professional. He is what he is. Too big a risk. Then he got injured. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | This would be my number one trade target. Probably cheaper than Kawhi and younger/healthier:
| LakerLogic wrote: | | https://twitter.com/Rachel__Nichols/status/997863815084756992 |
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The owner would have to be a cheap idiot to move KAT this early.
Wait...Glen Taylor is a cheap idiot. |
i don't know about cheap but he is idiot to trade Lauri Mark*/Dunn/Lavine for Butler/16.
i am talking about where his team was from development side. |
Agreed. They should've traded Wiggins and kept Lauri and Lavine. |
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shortodom
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| pjiddy wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | This would be my number one trade target. Probably cheaper than Kawhi and younger/healthier:
| LakerLogic wrote: | | https://twitter.com/Rachel__Nichols/status/997863815084756992 |
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why cheaper? i think he would more expensive then Kawhi. |
Ingram/Zubac/Cavs 1st/Bulls 2nd |
Don't know why we're just OK sending Ingram or Kuz out now. Didn't you guys see KAT completely shrink in the playoffs? |
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Car54
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| shortodom wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | This would be my number one trade target. Probably cheaper than Kawhi and younger/healthier:
| LakerLogic wrote: | | https://twitter.com/Rachel__Nichols/status/997863815084756992 |
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why cheaper? i think he would more expensive then Kawhi. |
Ingram/Zubac/Cavs 1st/Bulls 2nd |
Don't know why we're just OK sending Ingram or Kuz out now. Didn't you guys see KAT completely shrink in the playoffs? |
Shinny new toys. KAT doesn’t play defense and he shrunk like you said.
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| pjiddy wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | This would be my number one trade target. Probably cheaper than Kawhi and younger/healthier:
| LakerLogic wrote: | | https://twitter.com/Rachel__Nichols/status/997863815084756992 |
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why cheaper? i think he would more expensive then Kawhi. |
Ingram/Zubac/Cavs 1st/Bulls 2nd |
I’d do it but I’d fight to swap 2nd round picks instead of giving the bulls second |
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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| shortodom wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | This would be my number one trade target. Probably cheaper than Kawhi and younger/healthier:
| LakerLogic wrote: | | https://twitter.com/Rachel__Nichols/status/997863815084756992 |
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why cheaper? i think he would more expensive then Kawhi. |
Ingram/Zubac/Cavs 1st/Bulls 2nd |
Don't know why we're just OK sending Ingram or Kuz out now. Didn't you guys see KAT completely shrink in the playoffs? |
We're okay sending Ingram out for any thing of value on this sub. Theres atleast 2 Ingram trade proposals every three pages of this thread alone. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| shortodom wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | This would be my number one trade target. Probably cheaper than Kawhi and younger/healthier:
| LakerLogic wrote: | | https://twitter.com/Rachel__Nichols/status/997863815084756992 |
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why cheaper? i think he would more expensive then Kawhi. |
Ingram/Zubac/Cavs 1st/Bulls 2nd |
Don't know why we're just OK sending Ingram or Kuz out now. Didn't you guys see KAT completely shrink in the playoffs? |
I'd like to see him under a different coach before consigning KAT to the dustbin of poor defending bigs. |
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Car54
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | shortodom wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | This would be my number one trade target. Probably cheaper than Kawhi and younger/healthier:
| LakerLogic wrote: | | https://twitter.com/Rachel__Nichols/status/997863815084756992 |
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why cheaper? i think he would more expensive then Kawhi. |
Ingram/Zubac/Cavs 1st/Bulls 2nd |
Don't know why we're just OK sending Ingram or Kuz out now. Didn't you guys see KAT completely shrink in the playoffs? |
I'd like to see him under a different coach before consigning KAT to the dustbin of poor defending bigs. |
So two coaches with one of them being a former coach of the year, and the other being one with a championship, and having had one of the best defenses isn’t enough?
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | This would be my number one trade target. Probably cheaper than Kawhi and younger/healthier:
| LakerLogic wrote: | | https://twitter.com/Rachel__Nichols/status/997863815084756992 |
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The owner would have to be a cheap idiot to move KAT this early.
Wait...Glen Taylor is a cheap idiot. |
i don't know about cheap but he is idiot to trade Lauri Mark*/Dunn/Lavine for Butler/16.
i am talking about where his team was from development side. |
Agreed. They should've traded Wiggins and kept Lauri and Lavine. |
yup... they ruined their franchise because they gave Thibs authority to make moves. Towns/Lauri/Wiggins/Lavine/Dunn is pretty damn good. Should kept Rubio too. |
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chantruong
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Wolves will be screwed once Jimmy leaves them in 2019. Was it worth mortgaging their future for their first playoff series in 14 years? Not sure. |
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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| chantruong wrote: | | Wolves will be screwed once Jimmy leaves them in 2019. Was it worth mortgaging their future for their first playoff series in 14 years? Not sure. |
no recuasse they would have had 10 + years of playoffs with that core...
Jimmy is going to walk for sure. |
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AFireInside619
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| 32 wrote: | | I hope Channing Frye comes back for the vet min or part of the RE. |
I wouldn't mind. He's actually won us a game. Maybe we'd give him a podcast too. To me though, he has his sights set on something different. Maybe the Warriors? |
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jankobe
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| Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 2:28 am Post subject: |
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So many options suddenly in the horizon for the Lakers.
1st we have 2 Max slots.
Option to Resign Julius Randle.
Option to Trade for Kawhi or wait for 2019.
Now, KAT can be had via trade if rumors go that way...
Me thinks the Lakers should only prioritize 1 between Lebron James & Paul George.
Then use extra cap to Re-sign Julius Randle.
Then do whatever it takes to Trade for KAT so we will have our future star Center or sign DMC for less than his market value since he is still recovering from Achilless tear...
We still have option to acquire Kawhi in 2019 via FA depends on how FO use our remaining cap space (provided Deng will be traded + other assets).
Lebron or PG13
KAT or DMC
Randle
Then whatever is left from our young guns BI, Ball, Kuzma, Hart.
Its important for a team to have an allstar C, allstar Guard, allstar Forward in their fold. |
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