There has been one player who returned from an Achilles tear to perform as he had before it happened and that was over 30 years ago in spite of the medical advances of the past few decades.
In other words, the Boogie you saw before his injury is gone and he ain't coming back. Add in his other issues, and that's just a nonstarter.
'Nique?
With the advances in sports medicine and Boogie's age/game (he was never a high flyer), he has a better shot at recovering fully than a 35 year old Kobe did 5 years ago. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns".
There has been one player who returned from an Achilles tear to perform as he had before it happened and that was over 30 years ago in spite of the medical advances of the past few decades.
In other words, the Boogie you saw before his injury is gone and he ain't coming back. Add in his other issues, and that's just a nonstarter.
'Nique?
With the advances in sports medicine and Boogie's age/game (he was never a high flyer), he has a better shot at recovering fully than a 35 year old Kobe did 5 years ago.
It will impact his lateral quickness, first step, and balance when trying to shoot off the dribble.
I agree - he'll come back and contribute. But Boogie won't be the same - WITH THAT BEING SAID - maybe he turns into a Vlade Divac type focusing more on passing out of the high post (idk). It'll be interesting to see what he can do - I just don't want the Lakers to pay to see it.
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:15 pm Post subject:
LAKERMIKE2 wrote:
DD20045 wrote:
Didnt want to post this in the free agency thread?
Yep, different rules for different posters...
LOL. We merge, and it's "stop merging", we don't, and it's " why isn't this merged?" _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
Just re-watched Rob saying how patient he's willing to be to get this thing done - the right way.
Most of us are talking about going from a non-playoff team to competing for a championship next season. I think we're setting ourselves up for disappointment. These things take time...."Revenge is best when served cold," guys!
Finally a GM that gets it. After watching this I am now convinced the future will not be sacrificed for the now. There's no JIM BUSS timeline here. If other team's don't want to play nice, we aren't going to get fleeced.
When gambling, sometimes not loosing money means winning. If we end up w/ the already mentioned 3 headed monster then it's understandable that we'll need to say goodbye to some of our talented youth.
HOW EVA!, 1 more year of BI, Randle, Lonzo, Kuz, & Hart plus whatever they can bring in on short term 1 yr deals will not be a bad thing. In fact, it will be pretty damn fun to watch IMO.
Your best case scenario for Cousins would be a 1+1 deal, 30M each year with a player option on the 2nd year, but if he balls out or comes back to form, he can opt out for a bigger contract the next off-season, OR he has security if it took him some time but was relatively healthy.
The maximum scenario would be us giving Boogie and George both 30M a year contracts over 4 seasons. If we do that then essentially that is our core
Our core would be
Starters:
Lonzo Ball
Paul George
Brandon Ingram
Julius Randle
DeMarcus Cousins
In your best case scenario, you upgraded from KCP and Brook Lopez with two stars while keeping your core and bench in tact. If you got IT back on a gigantic "prove it" bargain, that would work. But I doubt he'd take something that low, if the cap is 101M but he DOES have a cap hold with us so we could go over the cap to re-sign him. But he still has a hold.
Cousins or Leonard in UFA is something I'd risk taking a chance on.
But if I had to trade Ingram/Kuzma and such to get Cousins or Kawhi I'd pass and let their next seasons play out.
There was rumors about two weeks ago that Cousins really wants to come to the Lakers, but I guess we'll find out sooner rather than later.
If landing Cousins ensures you a 100% chance to get Paul George, you do it. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
Wizards have joined the Nuggets in saying they'll move down from their draft slot if someone is willing to take on one of their expiring contracts.
Do the Lakers want a mid first round pick that bad to take on money? The only mid 1st guys they've worked out are Lonnie Walker and Zhaire Smith.
They can always dump Deng during the free agency period by attaching future picks or a young player.
My takeaway from this story, the Nuggets rumors, Memphis/Parsons rumors, etc - is that we can't go around thinking we'll be able to dump Deng whenever we feel like.
There is only so much cap room (never mind 18 mil of it for one team) around the league, and it could go away FAST if we're late to react or if Lebron take too much time to make his mind up.
That's why we need to move Deng NOW with one pick for a "better" contract - though still a bad one.
Something like Asik from Chicago or several others.
Then we'll have a LOT more teams able to take that 11.2 mil if we need to dump it later on.
And since next summer it would have cost a 1st rounder to dump Deng's expiring anyway - no harm done even if we end up not needing to move the contract now.
But this is the lesson here - that cap room could be gone very quickly, and we need to be set up to clear the cap room for Lebron/George which is very difficult and risky to do with Deng.
Landing Cousins only really works if you're bringing Paul George with him. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:51 pm Post subject:
MJST wrote:
Landing Cousins only really works if you're bringing Paul George with him.
That's who I'd want him with.. just didn't mention it. Even still, I wouldn't mind giving him a one year deal if we were unfortunate with our first options.
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