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GOODRICH25
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| Draymond isnt a supermax player, it can only benefit us if hes the one getting it |
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LakerSD
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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| GOODRICH25 wrote: | | Draymond isnt a supermax player, it can only benefit us if hes the one getting it |
If I had to bet $, he’s the one I believe the warriors will let go. Durant/Steph/Klay stay. |
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pjiddy
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerSD wrote: | | GOODRICH25 wrote: | | Draymond isnt a supermax player, it can only benefit us if hes the one getting it |
If I had to bet $, he’s the one I believe the warriors will let go. Durant/Steph/Klay stay. |
I think what Dray does for them and their LOD (not to mention his leadership) might be more irreplaceable, but if the Warriors disagree, I would love to have him. |
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KeepItRealOrElse
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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| GOODRICH25 wrote: | | Hezonja is an interesting name. 2-3, can shoot and has nice size for his position. id offer him something like 8M for 4 years and see if he bites. |
He's a 3-4 now. Started at the 4 in his career high game. Always had some thickness to him |
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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Man totally underestimated Dipo. Think OKC regrets trading him now? The magic? 
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davidse
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Laker's Fan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | How many years will this team have punted cap space then? This constant roster turnover can't be good for building up institutional foundations on this team. |
The Bryant cap space punt years were a very different animal. That was about ownership making money while they tanked and pretended to be saving a bullet for Kobe. At that point they had little to no young talent and couldn't get a respectable coach to take the job.
Now they have lots of young talent (including their coach) but none of them are ready. Magic trying to work the grand slam but Pelinka has situated them well to grow more organically. A lot of fans will ask why not keep Russell then but that is moot now and one of the upshots is it extended the cap flexibility.
They have a lot of cap space in a year where that is a high value asset. If they don't get max guys they're still in a good position to get quality players on good deals. Will continue the march upward and leave options going forward. |
So what do they do about Jules? Trade him (and he's been indispensable towards to the Lakers "success" this year in wins). Does he get 18m/year?
Who are the 2019 FAs that are even remotely realistic? Doubt Klay leaves the Warriors. Butler (who will be put through 2 more years of Thibs in Minny)? |
As so many things in the offseason are unknowns and out of our control, I think the best "compromise" move the Lakers can make right now is move Randle for a 1st rd pick, and then use a 1st rd pick (hopefully a 2021 pick), to get a "better" bad contract for Deng.
I think that sets up the team in the best possible way heading into the offseason no matter what happens.
At the very least the Deng for "better contract" using a 2021 1st is a must imo.
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KeepItRealOrElse
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Man totally underestimated Dipo. Think OKC regrets trading him now? The magic? |
He's asweome to watch. Just as good this year as George ever was.... maybe a tiny tiny bit better (clutch + efficiency might be better idk?)
Skilled 6'4 freak athlete, very fun to watch
I'm scared DLo figures out his jumper in his 5th year as well......
Ok bye. |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Omg Thunder about to go down again, vs the Nugz at home |
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LakerSD
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Would love to get mirotic. Dude is a motivated sharp shooter with size. |
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tox
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Man totally underestimated Dipo. Think OKC regrets trading him now? The magic? |
Yeah same. |
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LakerSD
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| tox wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Man totally underestimated Dipo. Think OKC regrets trading him now? The magic? |
Yeah same. |
Even the Butler trade for Chicago is looking pretty decent. Dunn is figuring it out, we know Lavine and the pick swap got them Markkanen. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Speaking of Chicago, Justin Holiday and David Nwaba both continue to play solid ball. I wouldn't mind the Lakers targeting either guy. |
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PHILosophize
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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no scrubs, no thank you
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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| tox wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Man totally underestimated Dipo. Think OKC regrets trading him now? The magic? |
Yeah same. |
Sometimes it just takes the right setting.
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fontana3d
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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| PHILosophize wrote: | | no scrubs, no thank you |
This is about after we use up our cap. |
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LakerMindLA
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| jg77 wrote: | | Let's say we miss out on PG13 and Cousins...who's next? Do we throw money at Jabari Parker who's a RFA? |
That would be an excellent idea.
I'd likely try to keep KCP for $14m a year and offer Parker a deal a $15m a year as well. He is still young enough to develop into a go-to scorer and can play with Ingram. |
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerMindLA wrote: | | jg77 wrote: | | Let's say we miss out on PG13 and Cousins...who's next? Do we throw money at Jabari Parker who's a RFA? |
That would be an excellent idea.
I'd likely try to keep KCP for $14m a year and offer Parker a deal a $15m a year as well. He is still young enough to develop into a go-to scorer and can play with Ingram. |
On his thrice injured knees?
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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| PHILosophize wrote: | | no scrubs, no thank you |
We shouldn't go chasing waterfalls? |
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LakerMindLA
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | jg77 wrote: | | Let's say we miss out on PG13 and Cousins...who's next? Do we throw money at Jabari Parker who's a RFA? |
That would be an excellent idea.
I'd likely try to keep KCP for $14m a year and offer Parker a deal a $15m a year as well. He is still young enough to develop into a go-to scorer and can play with Ingram. |
On his thrice injured knees? |
Would the Lakers or any team have a chance to sign him if he wasn't coming off all those ACL injuries?
There is no doubt a lot of risk, but with that comes a lot of upside. He was really turning into a big time player last year after 2 ACLs. Does the 3rd change the long term picture that much. Who knows. |
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AFireInside619
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| LakerMindLA wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | jg77 wrote: | | Let's say we miss out on PG13 and Cousins...who's next? Do we throw money at Jabari Parker who's a RFA? |
That would be an excellent idea.
I'd likely try to keep KCP for $14m a year and offer Parker a deal a $15m a year as well. He is still young enough to develop into a go-to scorer and can play with Ingram. |
On his thrice injured knees? |
Would the Lakers or any team have a chance to sign him if he wasn't coming off all those ACL injuries?
There is no doubt a lot of risk, but with that comes a lot of upside. He was really turning into a big time player last year after 2 ACLs. Does the 3rd change the long term picture that much. Who knows. |
I think you just made MJST's head explode. Get ready for a "War & Peace" type reply from him. 😂 |
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davidse
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerMindLA wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | jg77 wrote: | | Let's say we miss out on PG13 and Cousins...who's next? Do we throw money at Jabari Parker who's a RFA? |
That would be an excellent idea.
I'd likely try to keep KCP for $14m a year and offer Parker a deal a $15m a year as well. He is still young enough to develop into a go-to scorer and can play with Ingram. |
On his thrice injured knees? |
Would the Lakers or any team have a chance to sign him if he wasn't coming off all those ACL injuries?
There is no doubt a lot of risk, but with that comes a lot of upside. He was really turning into a big time player last year after 2 ACLs. Does the 3rd change the long term picture that much. Who knows. |
Why do we need to waste our cap room on a pf, and one who can't shoot ? |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| jg77 wrote: | | Let's say we miss out on PG13 and Cousins...who's next? Do we throw money at Jabari Parker who's a RFA? |
I'd shop for 1 year rentals. At that point the team will still be about ball and Ingram and kuzma. We will have our pick next year in case we stink, so you just continue to let the kids play. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Kuzma already is Jabari Parker, if not better. Plus Kuz hasn't had the same knee blowout twice (knock on wood) and he's making less than $6M over the next three years.
Why in the hell would the Lakers go after Parker? |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | PHILosophize wrote: | | no scrubs, no thank you |
We shouldn't go chasing waterfalls? |
no, we need to stick to the rivers and the lakes that we're used to |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| AFireInside619 wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | jg77 wrote: | | Let's say we miss out on PG13 and Cousins...who's next? Do we throw money at Jabari Parker who's a RFA? |
That would be an excellent idea.
I'd likely try to keep KCP for $14m a year and offer Parker a deal a $15m a year as well. He is still young enough to develop into a go-to scorer and can play with Ingram. |
On his thrice injured knees? |
Would the Lakers or any team have a chance to sign him if he wasn't coming off all those ACL injuries?
There is no doubt a lot of risk, but with that comes a lot of upside. He was really turning into a big time player last year after 2 ACLs. Does the 3rd change the long term picture that much. Who knows. |
I think you just made MJST's head explode. Get ready for a "War & Peace" type reply from him. 😂 |
the extended version...War & Peace...and more War |
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