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| OC Lakerfan wrote: | | chantruong wrote: | | Does GSW blow it up if they lose KD and Klay next year. |
They could retool pretty easily. |
They would be DONE if they lost KD and Klay. They would be VERY limited in their retool. |
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | chantruong wrote: | | Giannis or Simmons are the next great Laker FAs. Background as far from La as possible but I think they wouls love he LA spotlight. |
When Colin said that on the Herd about Simmons coming...
Does Simmons not want to qualify for the super max? |
He'd have to first take the QO offer which would be a huge gamble.
Then take a lower deal (and yes forfeit the super max).
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chantruong
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | epak wrote: | | chantruong wrote: | | Giannis or Simmons are the next great Laker FAs. Background as far from La as possible but I think they wouls love he LA spotlight. |
When Colin said that on the Herd about Simmons coming...
Does Simmons not want to qualify for the super max? |
He'd have to first take the QO offer which would be a huge gamble.
Then take a lower deal (and yes forfeit the super max). |
I mean its possible after his first rookie extension and also after Lebron's deal is done. When that ends I'm not sure. Also he will have to reject a supermax offer. I'm hoping Klutch sports can steer him here. |
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zofro
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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| butler rejected wolves offer today. was this expected? does this keep the 3 way dream with them alive for kawhi |
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epak
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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| zofro wrote: | | butler rejected wolves offer today. was this expected? does this keep the 3 way dream with them alive for kawhi |
Yes it was expected.
It's $70M less than what he can make next year as a FA. |
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chantruong
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | zofro wrote: | | butler rejected wolves offer today. was this expected? does this keep the 3 way dream with them alive for kawhi |
Yes it was expected.
It's $70M less than what he can make next year as a FA. |
Is that less than what the Wolves could have offered this year? If so, the wolves messed up big time. Trying to low ball your star player who you gave up valuable assets for and may be the only star FA in decades  |
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az82187
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | az82187 wrote: | How about Deng for Noah?
They make roughly the same amount for the next two years. Both probably would benefit from a change in scenery. Noah at least gives us some extra size. IF, and that is a big if, they are both going to be able to provide less than 10 mpg next year, wouldn't you rather have a C than a F?
Seems like a low cost and medium reward type of move. |
I dont think you saw Noah play last year.
That's cuz not many people did. He only played 7 games 
He's 33 this year and here's his games played:
2017-18: 7
2016-17: 46
2015-16: 29
2014-15: 67
And he makes more than Deng. |
That's 7x as many games as Deng played last year! haha
It's true that he makes more but the difference is rather trivial. We would be trading for him because he is the size of position for which there is a need, whereas Deng is not. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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I've always been of the mindset that Jimmy Butler is better than Paul George.
Perhaps he'll be target in 2019. Cheaper than a max.
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Dumhead
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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I'm guessing Zu is gonna get some solid time here. He's had some time to develop. He is getting older and stronger. Let's see what he can do.
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chantruong
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | I've always been of the mindset that Jimmy Butler is better than Paul George.
Perhaps he'll be target in 2019. Cheaper than a max. |
I think he is better despite PG's greater physical gifts. Stronger, but also more heart and maybe higher iq. I'm worried about Butler's mileage and age but he will no doubt get a max offer. |
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | I've always been of the mindset that Jimmy Butler is better than Paul George.
Perhaps he'll be target in 2019. Cheaper than a max. |
He's getting the full max. He just turned down a 4 year $110m extension.
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Jesusdelonla
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | MJST wrote: | I've always been of the mindset that Jimmy Butler is better than Paul George.
Perhaps he'll be target in 2019. Cheaper than a max. |
He's getting the full max. He just turned down a 4 year $110m extension. |
yeah ludacris to think he won't |
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SocalDevin
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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| chantruong wrote: | | MJST wrote: | I've always been of the mindset that Jimmy Butler is better than Paul George.
Perhaps he'll be target in 2019. Cheaper than a max. |
I think he is better despite PG's greater physical gifts. Stronger, but also more heart and maybe higher iq. I'm worried about Butler's mileage and age but he will no doubt get a max offer. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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| chantruong wrote: | | MJST wrote: | I've always been of the mindset that Jimmy Butler is better than Paul George.
Perhaps he'll be target in 2019. Cheaper than a max. |
I think he is better despite PG's greater physical gifts. Stronger, but also more heart and maybe higher iq. I'm worried about Butler's mileage and age but he will no doubt get a max offer. |
Heart wise yes talent wise no. He believes he’s the best PG doesn’t.
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Jesusdelonla
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Here are the remaining key free agents available: Marcus Smart (R), Shabazz Napier, Yogi Ferrell (R), Devin Harris, Shane Larkin, Jamal Crawford, David Nwaba, Dwyane Wade, Nick Young, Patrick McCaw (R), Rodney Hood (R), Michael Beasley, Jabari Parker (R) Montrezl Harrell (R), Clint Capela (R), Greg Monroe and Alex Len. |
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Jesusdelonla
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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this is why we signed Rondo |
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Freddie Buckets
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: |
this is why we signed Rondo |
a scope should only be a 4-6 week recovery |
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Freddie Buckets
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| Quote: | Adrian Wojnarowski
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Restricted free agent forward Jabari Parker and the Chicago Bulls are progressing on a deal, league sources tell ESPN. Discussions over a number to topics still ongoing. |
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epak
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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| So Chicago and Jabari seems like it's happening per woj. What will you do, Milwaukee? |
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Jesusdelonla
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| Freddie Buckets wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: |
this is why we signed Rondo |
a scope should only be a 4-6 week recovery |
my point is he might be injury prone and might need an good back up PG |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | So Chicago and Jabari seems like it's happening per woj. What will you do, Milwaukee? |
Think Milwaukee can only match a deal up to around $15M a year and the Bulls have the ability to give him more than that and make it impossible for Milwaukee to act. |
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epak
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| eagles nut wrote: | | epak wrote: | | So Chicago and Jabari seems like it's happening per woj. What will you do, Milwaukee? |
Think Milwaukee can only match a deal up to around $15M a year and the Bulls have the ability to give him more than that and make it impossible for Milwaukee to act. |
Oh really?
Dang, seems like a Chicago lock then. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | I've always been of the mindset that Jimmy Butler is better than Paul George.
Perhaps he'll be target in 2019. Cheaper than a max. |
He is better than George. He's a half notch below Kawhi though. |
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This is from July 1st before Lopez was signed. Even though they didn't use cap room to sign him but the bi-annual exception, since they're hard-capped I think this reduces the amount they can match him at down to around $12.8M(IIRC BAE is around $3.2M).
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Bucks now up to 13 guaranteed, at $111M with Brandon Jennings. That’s $13M under $123.7M tax line. Clearing Teletovic’s $3.5M after 11/7 would drop it $16M under. With Bucks hard-capped at $129.8M apron (Ilyasova contract), highest they can match/pay Jabari Parker is about $16M. |
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Jesusdelonla
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Bobby Marks
Chicago is sitting right at $17.4M in room if Noah Vonleh and David Nwaba are renounced. Cap space can increase to $20.6M if Paul Zipser and Julyan Stone are waived. |
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