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ChickenStu Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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LakerMindLA wrote: | ChickenStu wrote: | LakerMindLA wrote: | I expect the Wolves to trade Butler at the deadline. |
If not sooner. That locker room atmosphere between he and KAT/Wiggins is bad. It's why Jamal Crawford got the heck out of there. |
I’d love to see the Lakers pursue Butler because I think Kawhi could change his mind.
I could also see the Wolves having a lot of interest in Ball. |
I think they would have more interest in Ingram, who could slide in at the 3 and allow Wiggins to go back to the 2. They still have Teague and Tyus Jones and, gasp, Derrick Rose lol. |
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mookielala Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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Jimmy Butler on this team we could seriously contend. |
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Mini Mamba Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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ChickenStu wrote: | LakerMindLA wrote: | ChickenStu wrote: | LakerMindLA wrote: | I expect the Wolves to trade Butler at the deadline. |
If not sooner. That locker room atmosphere between he and KAT/Wiggins is bad. It's why Jamal Crawford got the heck out of there. |
I’d love to see the Lakers pursue Butler because I think Kawhi could change his mind.
I could also see the Wolves having a lot of interest in Ball. |
I think they would have more interest in Ingram, who could slide in at the 3 and allow Wiggins to go back to the 2. They still have Teague and Tyus Jones and, gasp, Derrick Rose lol. |
I wouldn't give them Ingram since we could get Butler next summer. I'd offer Deng, KCP, and a 1st for Butler and Dieng. |
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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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Mini Mamba wrote: | ChickenStu wrote: | LakerMindLA wrote: | ChickenStu wrote: | LakerMindLA wrote: | I expect the Wolves to trade Butler at the deadline. |
If not sooner. That locker room atmosphere between he and KAT/Wiggins is bad. It's why Jamal Crawford got the heck out of there. |
I’d love to see the Lakers pursue Butler because I think Kawhi could change his mind.
I could also see the Wolves having a lot of interest in Ball. |
I think they would have more interest in Ingram, who could slide in at the 3 and allow Wiggins to go back to the 2. They still have Teague and Tyus Jones and, gasp, Derrick Rose lol. |
I wouldn't give them Ingram since we could get Butler next summer. I'd offer Deng, KCP, and a 1st for Butler and Dieng. |
Dieng is getting paid 15m,16 and 17m per year next 3 year. Why do u want him him again? |
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Mini Mamba Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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Jesusdelonla wrote: | Mini Mamba wrote: | ChickenStu wrote: | LakerMindLA wrote: | ChickenStu wrote: | LakerMindLA wrote: | I expect the Wolves to trade Butler at the deadline. |
If not sooner. That locker room atmosphere between he and KAT/Wiggins is bad. It's why Jamal Crawford got the heck out of there. |
I’d love to see the Lakers pursue Butler because I think Kawhi could change his mind.
I could also see the Wolves having a lot of interest in Ball. |
I think they would have more interest in Ingram, who could slide in at the 3 and allow Wiggins to go back to the 2. They still have Teague and Tyus Jones and, gasp, Derrick Rose lol. |
I wouldn't give them Ingram since we could get Butler next summer. I'd offer Deng, KCP, and a 1st for Butler and Dieng. |
Dieng is getting paid 15m,16 and 17m per year next 3 year. Why do u want him him again? |
I didn't know that about his contract |
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ChickenStu Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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KCP isn't going anywhere. He was basically a package deal with LeBron, and he has a virtual no-trade clause anyway, as a non-Bird FA on a 1-year deal. He's going to be a Laker all year, so we might as well get used to it. |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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ChickenStu wrote: | KCP isn't going anywhere. He was basically a package deal with LeBron, and he has a virtual no-trade clause anyway, as a non-Bird FA on a 1-year deal. He's going to be a Laker all year, so we might as well get used to it. |
I lean towards the thinking that if a player can come in to help Lebron win a title, that his management team would be OK with KCP being in a trade package. Especially since the team did do him a solid with the overpay in back to back years. |
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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ChickenStu wrote: | KCP isn't going anywhere. He was basically a package deal with LeBron, and he has a virtual no-trade clause anyway, as a non-Bird FA on a 1-year deal. He's going to be a Laker all year, so we might as well get used to it. |
He can get packaged at the trade deadline, along with Lance and a first round pick to Minnesota for Butler. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
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ChickenStu Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | ChickenStu wrote: | KCP isn't going anywhere. He was basically a package deal with LeBron, and he has a virtual no-trade clause anyway, as a non-Bird FA on a 1-year deal. He's going to be a Laker all year, so we might as well get used to it. |
He can get packaged at the trade deadline, along with Lance and a first round pick to Minnesota for Butler. |
Only if he agrees to it. He has the right to say no to any trade. |
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Dreamshake Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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$$ drying up
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chantruong Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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Dreamshake wrote: | $$ drying up
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Good, let OKC take that massive tax hit for three years |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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chantruong wrote: | Does GSW blow it up if they lose KD and Klay next year. |
I wonder how many times Klay has to say he is staying and willing to take less to stay before people believe him. And backed up by his father. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | chantruong wrote: | Does GSW blow it up if they lose KD and Klay next year. |
I wonder how many times Klay has to say he is staying and willing to take less to stay before people believe him. And backed up by his father. |
I wonder how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop. |
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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | chantruong wrote: | Does GSW blow it up if they lose KD and Klay next year. |
I wonder how many times Klay has to say he is staying and willing to take less to stay before people believe him. And backed up by his father. |
so why he didnt sign an extension yet? was offered him that in early summer. |
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AY2043 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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I think next summer plays out like this:
Klay re-signs at GSW
KD and Kyrie team up somewhere (either Chicago, NYK, or Brooklyn)
Kawhi or Butler comes here and the other goes to Philly
You’ll then have Boston, Philly, Lakers, GSW, and wherever KD/Kyrie go all as legit contenders |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Why is KD leaving? Tired of winning? |
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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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epak wrote: | Why is KD leaving? Tired of winning? |
made up for clickbait |
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eureca Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | chantruong wrote: | Does GSW blow it up if they lose KD and Klay next year. |
I wonder how many times Klay has to say he is staying and willing to take less to stay before people believe him. And backed up by his father. |
Klay may very well stay but neither of us know how much the Warriors will offer him and how much less Klay is willing to take. Durant has said he wasn't leaving OKC. Lebron said he wouldn't leave the Cavs until he won the championship before 2010. Players can say anything they want it doesn't mean they are legally bound to those words. |
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noahp45 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Jesusdelonla wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | chantruong wrote: | Does GSW blow it up if they lose KD and Klay next year. |
I wonder how many times Klay has to say he is staying and willing to take less to stay before people believe him. And backed up by his father. |
so why he didnt sign an extension yet? was offered him that in early summer. |
That question
And why is it surprising KL will leave a lot of money on the table and go somewhere but not surprising Klay Thompson will turn Down a lot of money and stay? |
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mad55557777 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | chantruong wrote: | Does GSW blow it up if they lose KD and Klay next year. |
I wonder how many times Klay has to say he is staying and willing to take less to stay before people believe him. And backed up by his father. |
How many times do people have to tell you that taking less doesn't mean taking 30-50% less, they simply can't afford 4 max or close to max players. The repeater tax will kill them. If you think the 300mil payroll for OKC is bad, wait until you see that GS bill |
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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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noahp45 wrote: | Jesusdelonla wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | chantruong wrote: | Does GSW blow it up if they lose KD and Klay next year. |
I wonder how many times Klay has to say he is staying and willing to take less to stay before people believe him. And backed up by his father. |
so why he didnt sign an extension yet? was offered him that in early summer. |
That question
And why is it surprising KL will leave a lot of money on the table and go somewhere but not surprising Klay Thompson will turn Down a lot of money and stay? |
nobody said he wouldn't. unless he signs the contract extension, we are free to talk about anybody who is going to be a free agent next summer |
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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noahp45 wrote: | Jesusdelonla wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | chantruong wrote: | Does GSW blow it up if they lose KD and Klay next year. |
I wonder how many times Klay has to say he is staying and willing to take less to stay before people believe him. And backed up by his father. |
so why he didnt sign an extension yet? was offered him that in early summer. |
That question
And why is it surprising KL will leave a lot of money on the table and go somewhere but not surprising Klay Thompson will turn Down a lot of money and stay? |
Klay has China money
And the bay > SA? |
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AY2043 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Jesusdelonla wrote: | epak wrote: | Why is KD leaving? Tired of winning? |
made up for clickbait |
I wouldn’t be so sure. KD is a pretty insecure dude, and I think he wants to go somewhere and be “the guy” again. He’s never going to be that in GS no matter how many championships/Finals MVP’s he wins, it will always be Steph’s team.
There are lots of murmurs in the media about him potentially leaving too. It may sound like click bait now, but so was LeBron to LA a year ago, and Kawhi wanting out of SA a few months ago. |
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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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epak wrote: | noahp45 wrote: | Jesusdelonla wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | chantruong wrote: | Does GSW blow it up if they lose KD and Klay next year. |
I wonder how many times Klay has to say he is staying and willing to take less to stay before people believe him. And backed up by his father. |
so why he didnt sign an extension yet? was offered him that in early summer. |
That question
And why is it surprising KL will leave a lot of money on the table and go somewhere but not surprising Klay Thompson will turn Down a lot of money and stay? |
Klay has China money
And the bay > SA? |
Klay's shoe deal is worth 80m dollars while KL got offered 20/4 years lol |
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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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AY2043 wrote: | Jesusdelonla wrote: | epak wrote: | Why is KD leaving? Tired of winning? |
made up for clickbait |
I wouldn’t be so sure. KD is a pretty insecure dude, and I think he wants to go somewhere and be “the guy” again. He’s never going to be that in GS no matter how many championships/Finals MVP’s he wins, it will always be Steph’s team.
There are lots of murmurs in the media about him potentially leaving too. It may sound like click bait now, but so was LeBron to LA a year ago, and Kawhi wanting out of SA a few months ago. |
meh, he is happy here in the bay. gave up 10m and then around 5m this year.
if he wasn't winning, i agree but he keeps winning and getting the FMVP.
so no totally different scenarios. |
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