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MJST
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| Judah wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jules only got 9m a year while Jabari who has 4432 ACL tears got 20m a year. Time to fire Mintz. |
My guess is he took what was available to go to a contender. He could have got more going to a bottom feeder, but he didn't even try. |
pelicans are not in anyway shape or form contender or pretender. |
Jules will have to beat out Mirotic too. Pels have his bird rights and probably want to keep him long term. |
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I don't like the Julius Randle fit next to Anthony Davis. Randle doesn't space the floor well, reluctant passer, inconsistent defender. Randle could be good someday, but those were all issues at Kentucky. Davis should be paired with Nikola Mirotic as much as possible, not Randle.
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”Those were all issues at Kentucky.”
So he apparently hasn't watched Randle’s NBA career? Okay. |
His hot takes are the same as the Lakers fans that only acknowledged Randle's rookie season and tried to make it forever his reality.
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Free agent guard Shabazz Napier has agreed to a two-year deal with the Brooklyn Nets, league sources tell ESPN. Napier, 27, had his best pro season with the Blazers last year. |
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Free agent guard Shabazz Napier has agreed to a two-year deal with the Brooklyn Nets, league sources tell ESPN. Napier, 27, had his best pro season with the Blazers last year. |
Nice.. makes Portland weaker |
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Jesusdelonla
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| MJST wrote: | | Judah wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jules only got 9m a year while Jabari who has 4432 ACL tears got 20m a year. Time to fire Mintz. |
My guess is he took what was available to go to a contender. He could have got more going to a bottom feeder, but he didn't even try. |
pelicans are not in anyway shape or form contender or pretender. |
Jules will have to beat out Mirotic too. Pels have his bird rights and probably want to keep him long term. |
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Replying to @KevinOConnorNBA
I don't like the Julius Randle fit next to Anthony Davis. Randle doesn't space the floor well, reluctant passer, inconsistent defender. Randle could be good someday, but those were all issues at Kentucky. Davis should be paired with Nikola Mirotic as much as possible, not Randle.
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i agree with Kevin |
”Those were all issues at Kentucky.”
So he apparently hasn't watched Randle’s NBA career? Okay. |
His hot takes are the same as the Lakers fans that only acknowledged Randle's rookie season and tried to make it forever his reality. |
well u get paid what ur value is on the court.
a gordan: 80/4yrs
Slow Anderson: 37/4years
zach lavine: 78/4yrs
parker: 40/2years
randle: 18/2years
T booker's contract with nets few years back: 18.5/2years. thats his value = t booker. that is reality
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | eagles nut wrote: | Adrian Wojnarowski
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Free agent guard Shabazz Napier has agreed to a two-year deal with the Brooklyn Nets, league sources tell ESPN. Napier, 27, had his best pro season with the Blazers last year. |
Nice.. makes Portland weaker |
After signing Seth Curry, I don't think they had any intention of re-signing Napier. |
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Free agent guard Shabazz Napier has agreed to a two-year deal with the Brooklyn Nets, league sources tell ESPN. Napier, 27, had his best pro season with the Blazers last year. |
Nice.. makes Portland weaker |
After signing Seth Curry, I don't think they had any intention of re-signing Napier. |
Better with 1 then both |
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| BREAKING NEWS Adrian Wojnarowski reports that Julius Randle will not be a member of the Los Angeles Lakers this season. He adds that fans are welcome to get over him, but he looks primed to be the 2018-19 version of D'Angelo Russell. |
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Lopez averaged 4rpg, pretty pitiful for a 7 footer, but not totally shocking considering on offense he was at the 3pt line 80% of the time..
Zubac or Wagner could get 4rpg in their sleep...
but making up Randle's 8rpg will be needed.
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| fansincemagic wrote: | | <b>BREAKING NEWS</b> Adrian Wojnarowski reports that Julius Randle will not be a member of the Los Angeles Lakers this season. He adds that fans are welcome to get over him, but he looks primed to be the 2018-19 version of D'Angelo Russell. |
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Parker has to work one year to get $20M
Randle has to work two years to get $18M
I would rather work half as much and make 11% more money. |
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Shabazz. Ugh. Probably on minimum. I thought lbj loves him?
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jules only got 9m a year while Jabari who has 4432 ACL tears got 20m a year. Time to fire Mintz. |
My guess is he took what was available to go to a contender. He could have got more going to a bottom feeder, but he didn't even try. |
pelicans are not in anyway shape or form contender or pretender. |
Jules will have to beat out Mirotic too. Pels have his bird rights and probably want to keep him long term. |
Yeah, NO gave a nice draft asset for Mirotic, he has played extremely well next to Davis and they have his Bird rights. Lots invested in him. Randle was a value pickup with a low downside contract. Jules is going to have to win by knockout to gain pole position.
I think he may be more banking on CAA leverage in a cap rich market than making a long term home as a Pelican.
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| DeeAgeaux wrote: | Parker has to work one year to get $20M
Randle has to work two years to get $18M
I would rather work half as much and make 11% more money. |
Missing the forest for the trees.
Randle might make $30 million the next two years and Parker might make $25 mil. We just can’t know.
All we know is that one has a guarantee to get paid $20 million, while the other has a guarantee to make at least $18 million, barring some bizarre circumstances. The rest is just window dressing. |
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| There giving Zubac a shot I’m okay with it .. he was already told to be ready to play alot minutes this year |
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| unleasHell wrote: | Lopez average 4rpg, pretty pitiful for a 7 footer, but not totally shocking considering on offense he was at the 3pt line 80% of the time..
Mo or Wagner could get 4rpg in their sleep...
but making up Randle's 8rpg will be needed. |
Lebron? |
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| 24Legend007 wrote: | | noahp45 wrote: | | 24Legend007 wrote: | | chantruong wrote: | | noahp45 wrote: | Lakers going to kick gs out if the playoffs this year.
When that happens who will gs sign , Butler |
They gonna beg a star to sign for the mle |
If that happens, Durant is a Laker next year. |
He would get destroyed by the World. He couldn't make enough burner accounts to get over the hurt feelings |
KD strikes me as someone who does not GAF. |
I think his past actions say the opposite
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| I have no idea what we will do with the remaining exception. Any bargains still out there? |
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| Laker's Fan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jules only got 9m a year while Jabari who has 4432 ACL tears got 20m a year. Time to fire Mintz. |
My guess is he took what was available to go to a contender. He could have got more going to a bottom feeder, but he didn't even try. |
pelicans are not in anyway shape or form contender or pretender. |
Jules will have to beat out Mirotic too. Pels have his bird rights and probably want to keep him long term. |
Yeah, NO gave a nice draft asset for Mirotic, he has played extremely well next to Davis and they have his Bird rights. Lots invested in him. Randle was a value pickup with a low downside contract. Jules is going to have to win by knockout to gain pole position.
I think he may be more banking on CAA leverage in a cap rich market than making a long term home as a Pelican. |
He may be a 6th man with the Pels. mirotic’s shooting opens up that floor for AD. Jules likely the backup center.
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| LakerDYnasty72 wrote: | | LakerFan1972 wrote: | | Quote: | Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
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Free agent forward Jabari Parker has agreed to a two-year, $40M deal with the Chicago Bulls, league sources tell ESPN. Milwaukee rescinded Parker's qualifying offer moments ago, making him unrestricted. |
Another from JR's 2014 draft class get paid. Must be tough for JR to watch.
JR needs to develop that outside shot if he expects to get paid. |
Exactly. And he hasn't. Let's imagine that he started his career shooting a woeful 28% from 3pt territory. But through hard work and persistence, his stroke steadily improved, his efficiency was steady, and he was able to raise that average to about 36%.
He's still a Laker. |
Except the Lakers didn’t want him shooting outside shots. My guess is that the Pelicans won’t limit him.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | LakerDYnasty72 wrote: | | LakerFan1972 wrote: | | Quote: | Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
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Free agent forward Jabari Parker has agreed to a two-year, $40M deal with the Chicago Bulls, league sources tell ESPN. Milwaukee rescinded Parker's qualifying offer moments ago, making him unrestricted. |
Another from JR's 2014 draft class get paid. Must be tough for JR to watch.
JR needs to develop that outside shot if he expects to get paid. |
Exactly. And he hasn't. Let's imagine that he started his career shooting a woeful 28% from 3pt territory. But through hard work and persistence, his stroke steadily improved, his efficiency was steady, and he was able to raise that average to about 36%.
He's still a Laker. |
Except the Lakers didn’t want him shooting outside shots. My guess is that the Pelicans won’t limit him. |
Yet they let Brook and Kuz (over 30% 3 point shooters do it) shoot tons of 3s. Maybe that’s just not a part of Jules’s game.
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| Cow wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | Wildchild027 wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Wildchild027 wrote: | | Daphanabe wrote: | | Bard207 wrote: | | Daphanabe wrote: | | I wonder why the Bucks rescinded the QO. Wouldn’t they have been able to make him play under that if Parker wanted to be an FA next year. |
Chicago was working on an offer sheet for Parker to sign.
Rather than wait to be presented a signed offer sheet and then deliberate about matching, the Bucks raised the white flag and moved on.
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They must have heard how insane the offer was to surrender without making the Bulls sweat a bit. |
They used the MLE on Sova, and BAE on Lopez, they are basically hard capped. |
any chance they do Deng/pick for Henson?
they have now:
Lopez
Thon Maker
DJ Wilson
Tyler Zeller
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No need to trade Deng now. The buy-out market is going to have Vuc, Lopez, Dedmon, and posibly Chandler on it. |
Lakers should still try and trade Deng for a smaller salary. We don’t really want to stretch him next year for 6m a year hit.
Also, why do you think Dedmon or Vucevic are buyout candidates? They don’t fit the characteristics of normal buyout candidates. |
We simply won’t stretch Deng next year. It’s *highly* unlikely. He’ll be an expiring contract in a market where 20+ teams will have the space to absorb him. He will be easy to get off the books next year. There’s really no stress about it anymore.
Lebron coming without a second star saved us on the Deng front. |
Lots of big ending contracts next offseason
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jules only got 9m a year while Jabari who has 4432 ACL tears got 20m a year. Time to fire Mintz. |
My guess is he took what was available to go to a contender. He could have got more going to a bottom feeder, but he didn't even try. |
pelicans are not in anyway shape or form contender or pretender. |
They were only top 4 in the West.
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| Just a thought but perhaps there should be a special Julius Randle/Pelicans thread in the forum? |
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| LakerLanny wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | Mintz is the biggest loser of 2018 free agency:
1) Randle got way less than his peers
2) PG13 didn’t get the best deal (lakers or not)
3) Nets not even talking extension with DLO
I certainly wouldn’t sign up with that guy. Can’t have personal grudges impact business for clients. |
I agree, his summer should be required viewing for all future NBA agents as a "not to do" example.
As far as Randle, sure it would have been nice to get value back for him, but the Lakers had bigger fish to fry at that point.
I like how the Lakers are being somewhat cold and clinical in their evaluations. Guys like Randle, Lopez, Thomas just didn't fit in with what they were looking for apparently and I like that they have a vision. |
Yup. I think with Randle they would welcome him back with open arms if he took the 1 year deal so that they preserve the 2019 cap space but Mintz was too butthurt over relationship with the Lakers.
Anyway, they know what they are doing. The 3 headed Magic/Pelinka/LeGM have a 2-3 year plan and I don’t think they will make the same mistakes Cleveland did with those outrageous contracts. I’m sure even LeBron learned from those mistakes. |
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