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mookielala
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| laker50 wrote: | The Lakers are in a great position for the future. Just one super star player away.
That Lonzo pick is turning out to be a good one. So is the Ingram pick. Kuzma, Hart, and Nance were great value picks. Loss of DLO hurts outside shooting. Big loss.
Lopez is ok but at a less salary.
It seems KCP is going to ask for more money than he is worth.
But PG is worth maxing out for he has some years left in him. He is an all star and getting into his prime. OKC might not be able to max him out unless they win it all.
James window is short so will not want to rebuild with the Lakers.
Possibly same for Cousins.
But in 2 to 3 years if the Lakers make the right moves and don't panic will be in hunt for playoffs for sure. |
Good post. I agree with this except maybe the Lopez part. We should try to add PG, let the young core develop, and look for value players. We aren't going to contend for a few years, so we shouldn't sign older FAs hoping to somehow win in the next two years. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:49 am Post subject: |
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| laker50 wrote: | The Lakers are in a great position for the future. Just one super star player away.
That Lonzo pick is turning out to be a good one. So is the Ingram pick. Kuzma, Hart, and Nance were great value picks. Loss of DLO hurts outside shooting. Big loss.
Lopez is ok but at a less salary.
It seems KCP is going to ask for more money than he is worth.
But PG is worth maxing out for he has some years left in him. He is an all star and getting into his prime. OKC might not be able to max him out unless they win it all.
James window is short so will not want to rebuild with the Lakers.
Possibly same for Cousins.
But in 2 to 3 years if the Lakers make the right moves and don't panic will be in hunt for playoffs for sure. |
I agree but Cousins is still young, I'd put him in the same boat as PG13.
If the Lakers can add both Cousins and PG13 to the ever improving core of Lonzo, Ingram, Hart, Kuzma and Nance the Lakers would be top 3 in the West, maybe even ahead of Houston for the 2nd spot right behind GS. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:53 am Post subject: |
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https://ripcityproject.com/2018/01/15/blazers-julius-randle-trade/3/
That’s just to give you some idea about the perceived trade value of JC and JR around the league. Evan Turner, Vonleh and a 2nd is what this Portland Writer thinks is a fair value. Then on the next page he summarizes saying that it’s probably too much to pay for them.
Not saying he is correct as far as his value assessment, but just to put a bit of focus on what type of offers we might be looking at and how the rest of the league might see these guys. |
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davidse
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:56 am Post subject: |
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| Fortysixn2 wrote: | https://ripcityproject.com/2018/01/15/blazers-julius-randle-trade/3/
That’s just to give you some idea about the perceived trade value of JC and JR around the league. Evan Turner, Vonleh and a 2nd is what this Portland Writer thinks is a fair value. Then on the next page he summarizes saying that it’s probably too much to pay for them.
Not saying he is correct as far as his value assessment, but just to put a bit of focus on what type of offers we might be looking at and how the rest of the league might see these guys. |
Since this writer obviously has zero understanding in why the Lakers are even trading them in the first place, I wouldn't put too much stock in his estimations...
And value is different from team to team - based on roster needs, cap situation, general direction they want to go in the offseason, etc.
it really makes no sense to talk about "value around the league". |
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AJChang617
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:58 am Post subject: |
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| Fortysixn2 wrote: | https://ripcityproject.com/2018/01/15/blazers-julius-randle-trade/3/
That’s just to give you some idea about the perceived trade value of JC and JR around the league. Evan Turner, Vonleh and a 2nd is what this Portland Writer thinks is a fair value. Then on the next page he summarizes saying that it’s probably too much to pay for them.
Not saying he is correct as far as his value assessment, but just to put a bit of focus on what type of offers we might be looking at and how the rest of the league might see these guys. |
Ripcityproject.com? Really |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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| I think the reason why we haven’t traded Randle and Clarkson yet is because we are waiting to use them in a Cousins trade or else I don’t think it would be hard to trade them for exp contracts. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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*Michael Scott No No No NOOOOOO meme* |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I think the reason why we haven’t traded Randle and Clarkson yet is because we are waiting to use them in a Cousins trade or else I don’t think it would be hard to trade them for exp contracts. |
Or how about we're just not trying to trade 2 guys who are helping us to win which will only change if we get a really good deal.. if we don't get that type of deal, we're move them in the off season (or in Julius' case, renounce him) |
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ThreePointBomber
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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Cavs get:
Clarkson
Randle
Hart
Lakers Get:
JR Smith
Frye
Holland
Nets Pick
Who says no?
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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| VujacicForThree wrote: | Cavs get:
Clarkson
Randle
Hart
Lakers Get:
JR Smith
Frye
Holland
Nets Pick
Who says no? |
The Cavs, after they call almost any other team and let them know the Nets pick is available. Which, if it is, will be used to get a star. Not 3 role players. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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| 2019 wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I think the reason why we haven’t traded Randle and Clarkson yet is because we are waiting to use them in a Cousins trade or else I don’t think it would be hard to trade them for exp contracts. |
Or how about we're just not trying to trade 2 guys who are helping us to win which will only change if we get a really good deal.. if we don't get that type of deal, we're move them in the off season (or in Julius' case, renounce him) |
That was essentially my point  |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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IG- props to you for posting stuffing like this instead of bad trade ideas.
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davidse
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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| babyskyhook wrote: |
IG- props to you for posting stuffing like this instead of bad trade ideas.
Well done. |
Is that the LG equivalent to "here's a cookie" ? |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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I think the Pelicans might be better with Julius and JC.
And interesting enough, I think it makes the Lakers better as well.
Do it Rob. And we get a Laker in the All-Star game. |
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| If we strike out on PG13...qould you guys throw a max offer sheet at RFA Zach Lavine and try to poach him from the Bulls? |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| babyskyhook wrote: |
IG- props to you for posting stuffing like this instead of bad trade ideas.
Well done. |
Yeah I leave it to the trade experts to propose trade ideas.. I usually just like posting things when something breaks. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | I think the Pelicans might be better with Julius and JC.
And interesting enough, I think it makes the Lakers better as well.
Do it Rob. And we get a Laker in the All-Star game. |
I think Pelicans are waiting to see if Cousins commits.. but if he doesn’t we will likely be very aggressive in getting a trade done... |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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| jg77 wrote: | | If we strike out on PG13...qould you guys throw a max offer sheet at RFA Zach Lavine and try to poach him from the Bulls? |
i like it tough i think they will match it. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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| pjiddy wrote: |
*Michael Scott No No No NOOOOOO meme* |
ASW will be of NO interest in this case, because the TD expires before it. |
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| AJChang617 wrote: | | jg77 wrote: | | If we strike out on PG13...qould you guys throw a max offer sheet at RFA Zach Lavine and try to poach him from the Bulls? |
i like it tough i think they will match it. |
They will match it unless out of desperation of not getting a star FA we throw some crazy max money at him... |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I think the reason why we haven’t traded Randle and Clarkson yet is because we are waiting to use them in a Cousins trade or else I don’t think it would be hard to trade them for exp contracts. |
Worth a shot. If Cousins doesn’t commit to NO, I think he is made available prior to trade deadline. |
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AJChang617
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | AJChang617 wrote: | | jg77 wrote: | | If we strike out on PG13...qould you guys throw a max offer sheet at RFA Zach Lavine and try to poach him from the Bulls? |
i like it tough i think they will match it. |
They will match it unless out of desperation of not getting a star FA we throw some crazy max money at him... |
i think they will match max contract for Lavine |
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What's with these rumors about Celtics trying to trade for Anthony Davis? Son of a
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| AJChang617 wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | AJChang617 wrote: | | jg77 wrote: | | If we strike out on PG13...qould you guys throw a max offer sheet at RFA Zach Lavine and try to poach him from the Bulls? |
i like it tough i think they will match it. |
They will match it unless out of desperation of not getting a star FA we throw some crazy max money at him... |
i think they will match max contract for Lavine |
~$25.5M for Zach?
I want Zach if we're getting Paul George.
But if Zach is the best FA we're getting this summer, I hope we're not offering him $25M. |
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| epak wrote: | | AJChang617 wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | AJChang617 wrote: | | jg77 wrote: | | If we strike out on PG13...qould you guys throw a max offer sheet at RFA Zach Lavine and try to poach him from the Bulls? |
i like it tough i think they will match it. |
They will match it unless out of desperation of not getting a star FA we throw some crazy max money at him... |
i think they will match max contract for Lavine |
~$25.5M for Zach?
I want Zach if we're getting Paul George.
But if Zach is the best FA we're getting this summer, I hope we're not offering him $25M. |
whats your lineup if we get PG & Lavine?
i doubt ingram goes to the bench and PG13 has said he doest want to play 4 |
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