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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:56 am    Post subject:

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would love for clippers to trade their 2 lotto picks and then Kawahi bolt after a season


Tobias/Lou and the 2 lotto picks is pretty enticing but I have a feeling if Kawhi gets traded Pop will retire so the Spurs are gonna want young pieces and picks.


who is kawahi coming to play with? Boban? Injured Galo? even if they somehow took the salary/player of harris


Yeah, I have no idea why Clippers are mentioned as a possible destination, even if they trade for him and DJ and Bradley walk, they still won’t have enough cap to spend unless they get rid of Gallo’s contract and no one would be dumb enough to budge.


They could have $45 mil in cap space
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:58 am    Post subject:

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Reports are that the Clippers are engaged in trying to trade for Leonard.


The Clippers and every other team in the NBA not named Golden State or Houston.

Windhorst reported a couple of weeks ago that teams are gearing up with offers.
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I'm confused with the logic.

The asset rich Celtics should not trade for Leonard because it "too risky" but the Lakers should?


No. The logic is, you use that for guys who are under contract.

They did with Irving.

Doubt they do that with KL who would be an impending FA. So if he bolts, you traded away what should have been for a guy under contract.


But teams do this when they are trying to win. Miami gave up the top pick for Love.


You mean Cleveland? And I doubt Cle got Love for one yr. Plus, LeBron wanted Love so even if Love left, they got LeBron to sign w/ them.

Look at Cle this yr. They held onto that Brooklyn pick because they had no assurances LeBron would stay. They weren't willing to go "all in."


I was referencing a team in win now mode trading for a star who is a pending free agent. I don't think any of them were on the market when the Cavs were shopping this deadline.

Another example would be Houston and CP3. OKC and George.


Lakers and Dwight Howard



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:00 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
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Jesusdelonla wrote:
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would love for clippers to trade their 2 lotto picks and then Kawahi bolt after a season


Tobias/Lou and the 2 lotto picks is pretty enticing but I have a feeling if Kawhi gets traded Pop will retire so the Spurs are gonna want young pieces and picks.


who is kawahi coming to play with? Boban? Injured Galo? even if they somehow took the salary/player of harris


Yeah, I have no idea why Clippers are mentioned as a possible destination, even if they trade for him and DJ and Bradley walk, they still won’t have enough cap to spend unless they get rid of Gallo’s contract and no one would be dumb enough to budge.


They could have $45 mil in cap space


Who are they gonna promise KL to play with?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:00 pm    Post subject:

Good idea, I never wanted that clown here.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:08 pm    Post subject:

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would love for clippers to trade their 2 lotto picks and then Kawahi bolt after a season


Tobias/Lou and the 2 lotto picks is pretty enticing but I have a feeling if Kawhi gets traded Pop will retire so the Spurs are gonna want young pieces and picks.


who is kawahi coming to play with? Boban? Injured Galo? even if they somehow took the salary/player of harris


It depends on who they could flip DJ for.



you have no confidence with our cap space yet you are making best case scenarios for clippers. the irony
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:09 pm    Post subject:

clippers if lucky might get a 1st for Dj on a large expiring contract.

DJ @24m is an overkill
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:19 pm    Post subject:

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would love for clippers to trade their 2 lotto picks and then Kawahi bolt after a season


Tobias/Lou and the 2 lotto picks is pretty enticing but I have a feeling if Kawhi gets traded Pop will retire so the Spurs are gonna want young pieces and picks.


who is kawahi coming to play with? Boban? Injured Galo? even if they somehow took the salary/player of harris


Yeah, I have no idea why Clippers are mentioned as a possible destination, even if they trade for him and DJ and Bradley walk, they still won’t have enough cap to spend unless they get rid of Gallo’s contract and no one would be dumb enough to budge.


Maybe it is as simple as the Clippers wanting to create a buzz for summer 2019.

Since his uncle is involved, back channel communications are going to be relatively non existent for front offices across the league.

Teams can find a somewhat valid excuse to talk to the Mintz and Rich Paul types of agents because they represent multiple players.

Completely different talking to the agent/uncle because he represents only Kawhi.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:25 pm    Post subject:

babyskyhook wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
Dreamshake wrote:
LongBeachPoly wrote:
Dreamshake wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
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I'm confused with the logic.

The asset rich Celtics should not trade for Leonard because it "too risky" but the Lakers should?


No. The logic is, you use that for guys who are under contract.

They did with Irving.

Doubt they do that with KL who would be an impending FA. So if he bolts, you traded away what should have been for a guy under contract.


But teams do this when they are trying to win. Miami gave up the top pick for Love.


You mean Cleveland? And I doubt Cle got Love for one yr. Plus, LeBron wanted Love so even if Love left, they got LeBron to sign w/ them.

Look at Cle this yr. They held onto that Brooklyn pick because they had no assurances LeBron would stay. They weren't willing to go "all in."


I was referencing a team in win now mode trading for a star who is a pending free agent. I don't think any of them were on the market when the Cavs were shopping this deadline.

Another example would be Houston and CP3. OKC and George.


Lakers and Dwight Howard



We should get the mods to add the bolded into the profanity filter.

We should refer to him as "He who shall not be named."



How about "Stay"?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:48 pm    Post subject:

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Reports are that the Clippers are engaged in trying to trade for Leonard.


The Clippers and every other team in the NBA not named Golden State or Houston.

Windhorst reported a couple of weeks ago that teams are gearing up with offers.


why do you think GSW and Houston will not make a call....a healthy Kawhi makes both better. If they could put Durant, Steph and Kawhi on the same roster....I would no longer waste my time watching the NBA.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:31 pm    Post subject:

If I'm the Spurs I'm waiting to see the draft order before I trade him. They should get a number one pick and some throw ins for him
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:32 pm    Post subject:

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Reports are that the Clippers are engaged in trying to trade for Leonard.


The Clippers and every other team in the NBA not named Golden State or Houston.

Windhorst reported a couple of weeks ago that teams are gearing up with offers.


why do you think GSW and Houston will not make a call....a healthy Kawhi makes both better. If they could put Durant, Steph and Kawhi on the same roster....I would no longer waste my time watching the NBA.


Because they cant afford them all.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:45 pm    Post subject:

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Where Kawhi Leonard ends up this summer 'has a direct impact' on LeBron James | SportsNation | ESPN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4_oVKEmSYI


lot of good insight from Brian Windhorst.

lets get it:
Lebron
Kawahi
Paul George
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:50 pm    Post subject:

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Where Kawhi Leonard ends up this summer 'has a direct impact' on LeBron James | SportsNation | ESPN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4_oVKEmSYI


lot of good insight from Brian Windhorst.

lets get it:
Lebron
Kawahi
Paul George


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:57 pm    Post subject:

Kawhi Interest on this board feels like the beginning of The Dwightmare all over again. A guy in a winning situation is unhappy for mysterious reasons. And we're assuming that in coming here, whatever his issues are that preventing him for even being on the bench for his teammates, will magically disappear once he's in a Laker jersey.

To me, he's either a high injury risk or a high locker room risk. Or, like Dwight, he might be both.

The only difference is we'd be giving up even greater assets for the Pandora's Box that is Kawhi. Dream teams can be fun to think about, but Dwightmares and Kawhitemares can take years to wake up from.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:00 pm    Post subject:

noahp45 wrote:
adkindo wrote:
babyskyhook wrote:
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Reports are that the Clippers are engaged in trying to trade for Leonard.


The Clippers and every other team in the NBA not named Golden State or Houston.

Windhorst reported a couple of weeks ago that teams are gearing up with offers.


why do you think GSW and Houston will not make a call....a healthy Kawhi makes both better. If they could put Durant, Steph and Kawhi on the same roster....I would no longer waste my time watching the NBA.


Because they cant afford them all.


They don’t need cap space to trade for him.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:02 pm    Post subject:

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Where Kawhi Leonard ends up this summer 'has a direct impact' on LeBron James | SportsNation | ESPN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4_oVKEmSYI


lot of good insight from Brian Windhorst.

lets get it:
Lebron
Kawahi
Paul George


Assuming Magic/Pelinka do their research on KL's health condition and sees that's he good to go, then (bleep) it. Sign and trade Randle and Ingram for KL, sign Lebron and PG.

Ball
George
Leonard
James
Lopez

Bench:
25th Pick
Hart
Kuzma
Wear
Bryant

Let's get it.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:03 pm    Post subject:

So if we trade for KL that should make us the favorite for the LeBron sweepstakes
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:05 pm    Post subject:

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Jesusdelonla wrote:
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Where Kawhi Leonard ends up this summer 'has a direct impact' on LeBron James | SportsNation | ESPN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4_oVKEmSYI


lot of good insight from Brian Windhorst.

lets get it:
Lebron
Kawahi
Paul George


Assuming Magic/Pelinka do their research on KL's health condition and sees that's he good to go, then (bleep) it. Sign and trade Randle and Ingram for KL, sign Lebron and PG.

Ball
George
Leonard
James
Lopez

Bench:
25th Pick
Hart
Kuzma
Wear
Bryant

Let's get it.


yupe, the trade will go through only if KL passes his physical.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:06 pm    Post subject:

Megaton wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
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Where Kawhi Leonard ends up this summer 'has a direct impact' on LeBron James | SportsNation | ESPN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4_oVKEmSYI


lot of good insight from Brian Windhorst.

lets get it:
Lebron
Kawahi
Paul George


Assuming Magic/Pelinka do their research on KL's health condition and sees that's he good to go, then (bleep) it. Sign and trade Randle and Ingram for KL, sign Lebron and PG.

Ball
George
Leonard
James
Lopez

Bench:
25th Pick
Hart
Kuzma
Wear
Bryant

Let's get it.


And if the Spurs deny access to evaluate Leonard?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:07 pm    Post subject:

Have to totally agree with you. Something doesn't feel right. I never thought Dwight felt right and look at how that turned out?

As much as I think Leonard is amazing and would be fantastic, he is either 1) really hurt and not healing right or 2) he is playing the Spurs, a very highly respected organization, wrong.

Both are not good.....

I think Laker fans need to think about that before we start trading Ingram, Ball, Kuz, etc....

There is huge risk here......


pjiddy wrote:
Kawhi Interest on this board feels like the beginning of The Dwightmare all over again. A guy in a winning situation is unhappy for mysterious reasons. And we're assuming that in coming here, whatever his issues are that preventing him for even being on the bench for his teammates, will magically disappear once he's in a Laker jersey.

To me, he's either a high injury risk or a high locker room risk. Or, like Dwight, he might be both.

The only difference is we'd be giving up even greater assets for the Pandora's Box that is Kawhi. Dream teams can be fun to think about, but Dwightmares and Kawhitemares can take years to wake up from.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:09 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
Megaton wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
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Where Kawhi Leonard ends up this summer 'has a direct impact' on LeBron James | SportsNation | ESPN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4_oVKEmSYI


lot of good insight from Brian Windhorst.

lets get it:
Lebron
Kawahi
Paul George


Assuming Magic/Pelinka do their research on KL's health condition and sees that's he good to go, then (bleep) it. Sign and trade Randle and Ingram for KL, sign Lebron and PG.

Ball
George
Leonard
James
Lopez

Bench:
25th Pick
Hart
Kuzma
Wear
Bryant

Let's get it.


And if the Spurs deny access to evaluate Leonard?


They'll probably only allow the Clippers to evaluate him...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:09 pm    Post subject:

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Have to totally agree with you. Something doesn't feel right. I never thought Dwight felt right and look at how that turned out?

As much as I think Leonard is amazing and would be fantastic, he is either 1) really hurt and not healing right or 2) he is playing the Spurs, a very highly respected organization, wrong.

Both are not good.....

I think Laker fans need to think about that before we start trading Ingram, Ball, Kuz, etc....

There is huge risk here......


pjiddy wrote:
Kawhi Interest on this board feels like the beginning of The Dwightmare all over again. A guy in a winning situation is unhappy for mysterious reasons. And we're assuming that in coming here, whatever his issues are that preventing him for even being on the bench for his teammates, will magically disappear once he's in a Laker jersey.

To me, he's either a high injury risk or a high locker room risk. Or, like Dwight, he might be both.

The only difference is we'd be giving up even greater assets for the Pandora's Box that is Kawhi. Dream teams can be fun to think about, but Dwightmares and Kawhitemares can take years to wake up from.


he is evaluated and cleared by Spurs Doctors since December
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:09 pm    Post subject:

And come on...Lakers can't get PG, Lebron and Leonard....that's crack talk....smoking too much of it...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:10 pm    Post subject:

pjiddy wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
Megaton wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
Quote:

Where Kawhi Leonard ends up this summer 'has a direct impact' on LeBron James | SportsNation | ESPN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4_oVKEmSYI


lot of good insight from Brian Windhorst.

lets get it:
Lebron
Kawahi
Paul George


Assuming Magic/Pelinka do their research on KL's health condition and sees that's he good to go, then (bleep) it. Sign and trade Randle and Ingram for KL, sign Lebron and PG.

Ball
George
Leonard
James
Lopez

Bench:
25th Pick
Hart
Kuzma
Wear
Bryant

Let's get it.


And if the Spurs deny access to evaluate Leonard?


They'll probably only allow the Clippers to evaluate him...


yes off course, heard pop is in love with T Harris and will trade KL only for T Harris
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