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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:40 am    Post subject:

Finally got a PS4 (yay) and NBA2k18 (yay yay).

Traded out KCP/Nance/JC/Brook and added PG13/Boogie for simulation purposes. FUN team.

It is thus declared.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:42 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
Finally got a PS4 (yay) and NBA2k18 (yay yay).

Traded out KCP/Nance/JC/Brook and added PG13/Boogie for simulation purposes. FUN team.

It is thus declared.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:45 am    Post subject:

PHILosophize wrote:
I agree with MJST in that LeBron to Philly is not a bad fit. All they would really need to do is stagger LeBron and Simmons' minutes and as was said, lessen Simmons role a bit - problem solved.

Problem solved, but they wonít both be exalted in their roles, and thatís what you want from all your players, for them to be, first, comfortable in their role and, second, to be exalted in their role, to know that they absolutely can play their game, as is most comfortable for them, and be exalted in that role, feeling fully utilized of their gifts.

When players fit well, just like in real relationships, the parts mesh well to the point that all parties are comfortable being themselves creating harmony through a groupís recognition of otherís bests while simultaneously actualizing their own ó gauging chemistry.

Who can effectively play at their very, very best while others, in unison, play at their absolute best?

This is the chemistry/fit question, and you ask this question because not all energy meshes harmoniously.

As you probably know, in good relationships, there is freedom to be who you truly are, as your partner is allowed the same. Problems occur, however, when the energies no longer mesh, neither or only one person is able to be exalted, both feeling hamstrung by the other, or one, through sheer will, maintaining strength, but the other becoming increasingly lost and concerned about their role in life.

Same thing happens in basketball.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:16 am    Post subject:

We are estimating the cap, but and Im not sure is it ever exactly what we think it is going to be?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:19 am    Post subject:

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We are estimating the cap, but and Im not sure is it ever exactly what we think it is going to be?


It'll most likely be in the 101-103m range. Last year's was downgraded b/c of the Warriors near sweep of the Cavs, and less $ from playoffs overall.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:45 am    Post subject:

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Scratch Boston and Philadelphia off that list of possible landing spots for James. Bad fit in Philadelphia. Bostonís pretty obvious.


Both (and Cleveland) offer the best for Lebron, playing in the Eastern Conference
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:50 am    Post subject:

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So Dr. No, aka MJST, what is your master plan for the next 2 years for the Lakers since you seemingly don't want LBJ or PG13 on this team? Could you give us a concise vision of how you take this team to the playoffs next season, then a top 3-4 seed by 2019?


Simple answer, ainít going to happen
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:54 am    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:55 am    Post subject:

Simple answer, if LBJ comes here he either has the biggest (self belief) in the business, or it's for something other than "basketball reasons".
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:56 am    Post subject:

Bron isnt going to Boston. Kyrie, dawg.

A lot of people dont think Bron is a great fit in Philly - but its not the worst. And more importantly they'd be able to add LeBron and have TONS of assets to go add other guys LeBron likes.

LeBron and Simmons are close.

Also - Simmons cant shoot, but Embiid can shoot 3s. Bron is shooting 3s. Covington can shoot 3s.

I honestly think Bron goes to 76ers and tells them to use Fultz + Saric + any of their multiple first round picks and go get Anthony Davis or some other star to compliment Bron, Embiid and Simmons.

I wasnt buying into this narrative until i remembered how many assets 76ers have.

Philly is a semi major city as well. And is probably, what, the 4th or 5th most important NBA franchise in the league.

Bron to 76ers is fine with me if Lakers get Boogie and Paul George.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:05 am    Post subject:

Who would win?

Lakers: Ball/PG/BI/Randle/Boogie with Kuz as 6th man
Sixers: Simmons/Fultz/Covington/James/Embiid with Saric as 6th man

I guess Sixers in next 2 years but Lakers after that?
The development of BI, Ball, Simmons and Fultz would obviously be huge...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:07 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
I think LBJ + Simmons/Embiid is too fantastic of a core to pass up. They'd worry about figuring it out later. The shooting would be suspect, but man, that's a crazy team to beat.


I have a hard time seeing James playing with a 20, 22 and 24 y/o. Especially when he will be 34 himself. Again, I think Simmons and Embiid are fantastic, but I question if LeBron doesn't want to play with an older star.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:23 am    Post subject:

Dam, LeBron keeps buying houses in LA. LOL.

http://www.tmz.com/2017/12/07/lebron-james-buys-new-los-angeles-mansion/
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:25 am    Post subject:

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yinoma2001 wrote:
So Dr. No, aka MJST, what is your master plan for the next 2 years for the Lakers since you seemingly don't want LBJ or PG13 on this team? Could you give us a concise vision of how you take this team to the playoffs next season, then a top 3-4 seed by 2019?


Simple answer, ainít going to happen


Concise response or making the playoffs without 2 max players?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:25 am    Post subject:

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yinoma2001 wrote:
I think LBJ + Simmons/Embiid is too fantastic of a core to pass up. They'd worry about figuring it out later. The shooting would be suspect, but man, that's a crazy team to beat.


I have a hard time seeing James playing with a 20, 22 and 24 y/o. Especially when he will be 34 himself. Again, I think Simmons and Embiid are fantastic, but I question if LeBron doesn't want to play with an older star.


See that.

But the 76ers could then take Fultz, Saric, their own 2018 1st rounder, Lakers 2018 1st rounder, the Kings 2018 2nd rounder plus future picks and go get just about any star vet they want (Anthony Davis included).

Plus I think Wade goes wherever Bron goes for whatever room exception they have.

Simmons
Covington
LeBron
Anthony Davis
Embiid

w/ Wade, McConnell, Holmes off the bench plus vet min guys who want to play on the team.

its not a complete team. But the following year they'd have their ~8m MLE to get another shooter.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:42 am    Post subject:

iimarshon wrote:
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yinoma2001 wrote:
I think LBJ + Simmons/Embiid is too fantastic of a core to pass up. They'd worry about figuring it out later. The shooting would be suspect, but man, that's a crazy team to beat.


I have a hard time seeing James playing with a 20, 22 and 24 y/o. Especially when he will be 34 himself. Again, I think Simmons and Embiid are fantastic, but I question if LeBron doesn't want to play with an older star.


See that.

But the 76ers could then take Fultz, Saric, their own 2018 1st rounder, Lakers 2018 1st rounder, the Kings 2018 2nd rounder plus future picks and go get just about any star vet they want (Anthony Davis included).

Plus I think Wade goes wherever Bron goes for whatever room exception they have.

Simmons
Covington
LeBron
Anthony Davis
Embiid

w/ Wade, McConnell, Holmes off the bench plus vet min guys who want to play on the team.

its not a complete team. But the following year they'd have their ~8m MLE to get another shooter.


davis cannot stay healthy so it would have to be someone else.

the issue with james is his shelf-life.
that is why i prefer boogie and pg.

by 2020, james would be 36/37 and warriors would be getting a bit old too.
if we get pg/boogie, we would immediately take on warriors and 76ers and give either a really good 7 game series - with winner more dependent on healthy than anything else and Ball's development

if we get james, he could retire in 3 years.
at that point, the salary for bi/ballkuz would have shot up and we would not be able to sign another star to replace james.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:49 am    Post subject:

By 2020 I could buy it, but not 2018. That would give our guys who are 2-3 years away the time to grow.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:52 am    Post subject:

Interesting theory on why the Lakers are all of sudden being talked about as a team who might make a move for PG13. There has to be whispers that the agents have told the Lakers that getting a star player like a George/Cousins/Jordan will make it easier to attract and accomplish the goal of adding multiple stars to the team, yeah I might be wrong... but itís interesting that speculation has arise on the subject of the Lakers making a move for a star.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:15 am    Post subject:

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By 2020 I could buy it, but not 2018. That would give our guys who are 2-3 years away the time to grow.


due to salary cap, 2018 or latest 2019 is the last change to have a young core and bring in 2 max.

2019 would require losing/trading randle and clarkson because bi salary would need to rise after that.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:05 pm    Post subject:

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Dam, LeBron keeps buying houses in LA. LOL.

http://www.tmz.com/2017/12/07/lebron-james-buys-new-los-angeles-mansion/


Obviously due to business and family reasons he will likely end up out here in the future. Property out here in LA is always a good investment too. Must be nice to pick up a mansion while only spending a fraction of your yearly NBA/sponsorship income.

I agree with others that he isn't coming in 2018. Even if another 'star' comes we are just too far away from contending against GS to even get out of the West. I could see it in 2020 as already mentioned by other posters. My guess is he stays with the Cavs for another 2 years and plays that out before moving on. Philly has some nice young players but they aren't beating LeBron/Cavs in the next year or two.

My best scenario is the Lakers stay on the path of developing the kids. Be patient. Sign Cousins next summer. Sign Klay in 2019 FA. Maybe we see LeBron in 2020 when Deng's contract is finally off the books. Yeah I understand JR/JC will not be kept under this scenario. It would also mean holding off on re-signing BI until 2020.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:17 pm    Post subject:

Okafor and Russell in Brooklyn
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:20 pm    Post subject:

Okafor and Russell in Brooklyn as well as Nik Stauskas and another 2nd round pick and they gave Philly Trevor Booker.


Now the people that stabbed Okafor so hard that they hated Russell are having a crisis : 3
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:22 pm    Post subject:

HAHAAH. Dlo and Okafor fanboys can reunite in brooklyn. Nice!!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:27 pm    Post subject:

Nets expected to release Sean Kilpatrick... we should pick him up.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:30 pm    Post subject:

Booker is a nice short-term get for Philly for Okafor and Stauskas' carcasses.

Maybe Atkinson can get something more out of the two busts, and it was worth a gamble, but I bet this will be a nothing trade by next summer.
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